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Too bad we won't get the new generation Focus here, it's pretty good looking in hatchback form.

Tesla is catching up to MB quickly.

That my friend, is the age old question, isnt it? “Ignorance, the root and stem of every evil.” ― Plato “I'm trying to think, don't confuse me with facts.” ― Plato “The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.” ― Socrates “I cannot teach anybody anything. I can only make them think” ― Socrates “Wonder is the beginning of wisdom.” ― Socrates “Strong minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, weak minds discuss people.” ― Socrates “To find yourself, think for yourself.” ― Socrates Ignorance is the night of the mind, but a night without moon or star. — Confucius, 551-479 BC, Chinese teacher & philosopher The only thing that is more expensive than education is ignorance. — Benjamin Franklin, 1706-1790, American politician & writer Books and ideas are the most effective weapons against intolerance and ignorance. — Lyndon Johnson, 1908-1973, American President [1963-1969] As you see, from the dawn of time, man has struggled with this... But to willfully choose to ignore and to stay ignorant of what is what... Not ignorance, but ignorance of ignorance is the death of knowledge. — Alfred North Whitehead, 1861-1947, British philosopher & mathematician With life experiences and input of all kinds, good, bad, accurate or false... Sixty years ago I knew everything. Now I know nothing. Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance. — Will Durant, 1885-1981, American historian & philosopher That is the beauty of human existence. We have the ability to learn...

Its one thing to humanize a dog. At least its living and breathing. Its another to humanize an object. If you really want personality in your transportation medium, horses are the way to go. Im not trying to be funny, just pointing out that an inanimate object have no personalities... Trust me, I know what you mean though about "personality". Different engine's have different horsepower and torque curves and different sounds they make... However, it is also wrong to think that all electric motors in different types of cars will be "tuned" the same. In fact, Tesla Model S and Model 3 cars, and Im talking about personal experience here, both have different settings on how the cars accelerate and use up battery power according to what setting the driver has chosen... Coincidentally, ICE cars have that too... But, such as like ICE cars, small "personality" differences between the model itself that the driver chooses. Do not mistake though, that a Prius drives differently than a Bolt that drives differently than a Tesla Model S that drives differently than a Model 3. Coincidentally, ICE cars have that too... So...the sound is missing on an electric motorized vehicle? A Corvette in Tour mode, AND with all the NOISE pollution hardware that was made into law sometime ago for cars not to make noise because public nuisance, and the LT5 755 horsepower V8 could hardly be heard outside the car AND even inside the cabin. And THAT is on a super fast sports car. When we are talking about current FWD Chevrolet Impalas or 4 door modern Dodge Chargers with our without the V8s, or Honda Accords or Cadillacs or especially Lexus and Buick cars, there is virtually no engine sounds being heard anywhere, unless we open up the hood of the car while the engine is turning. So much so that BMWs, the Mustang and others pipe the engine noises through the car radio speakers. And in some cases, like the aforementioned BMWs, FAKE engine noises... But, I aint here to convert you...just here to keep you informed.

There is no natural personality in an electric motor. Any uniqueness will need to be added artificially. It will be no more exciting than a generic Power Wheels chassis with a silhouette body hung on it of any number of styles. Gag.Me.With.A.Spoon. No way in hell, Paco.

1. I am against 'humanizing' animals. I like 'em, there's a couple living here, but they're not 'children' and they're not 'human'. And in case anyone was wondering, I also hate 'talking dog' commercials. 2. Inanimate objects sometimes DO have personalities. Frankly, I get more enjoyment out of a choice inanimate object than I do out of an animal. And the inanimate object doesn't even have to make noise/run for it's personality to shine out. I thought you guys were car people? ;)

I don’t really want a faster Bolt as much as I want maybe better interior materials, maybe a lower but wider body...like a true compact hatch not this class of FWD boxoids , and the infrastructure now to be able to charge in a reasonable time like 20 minutes to full, not 85%, full and more wide spread. Price be damned anyone doing the math knows that as long as electricity rates are cheap enough and public charge point have reasonable markup rates, the Bolt and others like it will sell like lightning.

The Ecosport is so attractive, not surprised this looks just as good. Almost as hot as the Trax.

That does look good. Looks quite small compared to the current Escape.

Pretty much what you state is what I have always told youth. Education is the great Equalizer that allows people of various beliefs to live together peacefully. If one ignores reading views from all sources it makes one ignorant of trying to understand why the other side believes the way they do and to take those sources of information and come to a better understanding of why society needs to change, technology needs to change, products we use need to change. If we stop learning, stop changing to make ourselves better we start dying.

My son who is a graphic designer and is all Apple has passed on the latest phone's stating there is nothing technologically worth it to upgrade and he now sees better options from the android side that give better quality over apple. He is taking a wait and see approach as he also says Apple has lately seemed to roll out new tech every 2 years like the old Microsoft and now Microsoft is creating new products yearly. It is as if the two companies have flipped their rolls. Some might like Tim Cook as CEO but I think he lacks the creative leadership to drive Apple to new products, solutions and consumer driven demand of profits.

I use my noggin.

In answer to your questions: 1)NONE, EVERYONE, should be looking at the news with an open mind and a critical eye to the data and make their own determination of the valid nature of the writing. Op Editorials by outside 3rd party people that are asked a question with the request to write up their view on the stated question from their professional view should be read on CNN, Fox News, BCC, etc. Educate yourself on what is being seen by professionals so you can better respond. 2) Stated for Truth, to deny reading a story because of where it is posted leaves you open to ignorance of what is being discussed. 3) Quoted for Truth, If one wants to be as balanced as possible and invest in the best person possible be it in business, politics or life, one does need to keep an open mind to both sides of the debate. 4) Correct, One can NEVER have a truly informed, educated thought if one does not read and educate themselves about both sides of the coin. 5) I truly get the point you are making, we are a MULTI-CULTURAL Society that has much to benefit everyone if only leadership, businesses embrace the differences with respect and humility of agreeing to disagree, yet finding middle ground to work together for the betterment of society. We are currently moving IMHO to a very splintered extremist viewpoint by not listening to all and yet then working to reach a middle ground of acceptance. Our History is filled with extremist hate and destruction of society by going to one side or another.

remain ignorant is a million, scratch that, a zillion times worse. Bad info is still info, that if one uses logic, and the smarts they gained by getting bad and good information with life experiences and input from all kinds of input sources, one could still form a viable opinion and solution...

As that article says... bias and accuracy are two different things. Rachel Maddow is incredibly biased... but generally her facts are on point and she issues retractions/corrections if she finds out she is wrong. Fox news is also incredibly biased, but when they get it wrong, they get it really wrong and rarely ever issue retractions or corrections. NPR seems to at least try to remain impartial by inviting those on both sides to be interviewed, but that can often lead to nutjobs getting equal airtime with "specialists".

Which of course a twin turbo 6 cylinder will also pull with the same force. If not more when the turbos kick in. But a naturally aspirated engine, especially a V8 naturally aspirated engine still has a leg up on a forced induction V6. Image. I think a V8 in a beast of a car like an Escalade or Navigatot or Cullinan or Bentayga or a Mercedes GLwhatever or a Land Rover still resonates with folk that wanna show their wealth.

I thought I explained myself quite clearly. I look at everything with a critical eye. Refusing to even look at something because of the source (outside of extremist stuff) is what I have a problem with. If you don't want to give CNN the ad revenue, put on an ad blocker (and whitelist us). All of the new outlets source news and op-eds from multiple places. So while one may lean left or right, is it just a lean. I'm still curious which news outlet you think is completely unbiased. I don't think one exists. So if you refuse to read any unbiased news sources, then you're actively choosing to remain ignorant. Read, absorb, form your own opinion.

Something like the Escalade should be very quiet...a luxury vehicle should be very quiet and refined, not loud...a quiet interior without harsh road noise and a powerful sound system.

Thank you @ccap41 for answering those questions. Now, if others would answer them, data could be collected and we could all have decent political discussions without the corrosive attacks and the blind eye and deaf ear responses. As long as we are ready to learn stuff from one another... Political discussions are not inherently bad and toxic, its how one tries to communicate... Its NOT about converting. Its about listening. Its about learning about the issues and tackling them with solutions. But here is the biggie...personal belief systems NEED to stay at home...everyone has a right to believe and live their OWN life without IMPOSING their belief system unto others. NEUTRALITY seems to be lacking in US society... And yes, all that what I said requires COMPROMISE... In 2018-2019, it seems we all behave like whiny, crying little brats... When I was a whiny, crying little brat, my mom would give me cross handed smacks across my face to shut me up...(and it worked)...

You are so true, it is amazing the personality even between my electric drills that I have. Electric has just as much personality as ICE. We just have to have open minds, eyes, ears to see the differences. Funny thing is over the holidays was doing some home repair and I have two identical 18v cordeless drills and one tends to have a grunt noise to it where the other is much higher pitched whir noise. Both have never failed me and yet while they look identical and both do their job, they clearly have their own personality of noises. lol

The Edge is pretty good too. Disclaimer: By me saying that the Edge is pretty good and agreeing that Explorer and Escape are good in no way does it mean I like CUVs and SUVs. I havent been inside GM's latest CUVs and SUVs or driven them for me to form an opinion on them, but I can say that if I was into CUVs and SUVs, I would without a shadow of a doubt trust Ford's CUvs and SUVs. Back to GM. I really like Mark Ruess. Something about Dan Amman I did not like. I do not know what it is about Dan that I did not like. Probably his lack of vision on the marketing of his brands and vehicles. I hope Mark does a better job at that. Mark is a true car guy. It may pain @ocnblu, but maybe the electric future GM is betting on, Mark could put some car guy DNA into them. Make them more Tesla in terms of sporty ride and acceleration (on certain EV models), rather than bland Prius...maybe he could better differentiate which EVs need to be more Tesla-like and which ones need to be more Prius-like and execute them properly. Hopefully, he would not be spreading himself too thin as GM needs to have Cadillac running at a superior pace in terms of quality and vision, and the whole EV thing. Well, GM is literally betting the farm on them, so the EVs HAVE to be nothing but the best!

I'd take a 300s or Charger over the SHO every time. Both dated platforms but the FCA one is so much better.

Judging by that pic alone, it looks like a rental car with aftermarket rims to me.

Save the CT6, even if the flagship is nowadays the Escalade. The FWD sedans can safely die. We need the CT6 badly.

That's actually a phenomenal performance for Tesla. 145,846 Model 3 is just about equal to what Mercedes Benz will sell of CLA, C-Class, E-Class, and CLS combined this year. (They were at 135k YTD for those 4 models back in November)

Horse and buggies... (remember, I grew up in Ohio Amish country--saw them all the time). Some of them rent 16 passenger vans w/ drivers to go shopping.

Weird to you maybe, but aren't ICE vehicles also weird to the Amish?

...except there is no getting around the fact that EVs are, essentially, weird. No matter what sort of cloak you wrap it in.

why can't they do both. take risk and invest for the innovation. don't skim the R&D money off the successful products and not put it back into the big sellers. what is GM's payoff for dumping all this money of R&D into autonomous and electric? are they just doing this out of the kindness of their heart or did the government hold them ransom to do this? Or is it for PR reasons? Infuriates me that all this money going into electrics and autonomous and no one can say when in the future i can stop anywhere on the highways, plug in my car for 3 minutes, and fully charge to 300 mile range (that doesn't die in cold weather). Until that day is known, GM still has to put full effort into their ICE cars and make them competitive. Just now we'll get chevy blazer for example. where ford edge and murano have been around forever.

Maybe they are adding a model between the Ecosport and Escape.

But impressive technology and a well built car.

According to Autoblog it is supposed to be the next Escape. https://www.autoblog.com/photos/2020-ford-escape-spy-shots-0/#slide-7494942

There's something really odd with this design. It looks really bland. The camo hides barely any features, this will be a dull looking CUV.

True it has been, but it can be more as the electric motor in the Bolt is programmable and has the ability to put out more HP and Torque. A different controller programming could really change the way it drives. If you ever do try a test drive of the bolt, click on the Sport button, and then hit the accelerator. Big difference, they could just make an RS Bolt in Sport mode all the time. Yes lower battery range but wow, so much fun factor.

That's not very factual.. Seems like biased can get in the way when trying to weed though information. ?? That 12th was going to be for you... I would be a very satisfied individual if the Cowboys blew out the Seahawks. I just don't see that happening. Seattle is good, Dallas is good. Both are strong defensively and "okay" offensively.

Correct on the Model 3/Sedan, but the Prius is actually a very good car. Perhaps if you would remove your cranium from Hans rectal orifice you might make better more informed posts.

Awesome. And back to a bit of ford disgust...hopefully they leave Lincoln in the dust. i can only be nice so long....

+1 on this! Read and listen to everything. There is an element of truth to all angles and leanings. Even on the extreme leanings. Those are exaggerated truths, but truths non the less. And from there, one could form one's opinion.

I truly believe that if it is Fox or CNN it is biased because they pretty much only post biased information. I wouldn't believe anything either news outlet posts. Their stuff must lean their direction in order to post it. The outlet posting it. I'm not avoiding "the other side's" news outlet. I avoid them both. I don't believe the consumer can inform a non-biased opinion like that. Political parties. Left/liberal/democrat = same Right/conservative/republican = same And this sums up why those extremely Left and Right news outlets are garbage and I won't give them my ad/click revenue.

So @Drew Dowdell is a CNN guy. Interesting. I thought you had more respect for yourself than that.

It's a crying shame you don't have children. Someone five hundred years in the future could get a kick out of watching your descendants whine and moan about how electric wheeled cars are being replaced with fission powered Jetsonesque flying cars. And my electric powered stationary tools in my workshop would like a word with you about nothing electric powered having personality.

Another ever-increasing stock market factor feeding volatility strongly is robo-trading.

The switch from oil can happen quite quickly if there was dire national security interest. Faraday future had a great concept, but maybe they're really in it for a far future day.

Yeah, government incentives should end as intended makes reach 200,000 unit sales. I was always skeptical of EVs in that regard. Yes it does say much about incentives, but these affordable EVs, is a problem for GM. This puts even higher pricing pressure on say, a Cadillac EV. Audi, Porsche, Mercedes can have a higher income bracket demographic buy their new EVs and they get the tax rebate at tax time. Hyundai, Kia eating you from the bottom, Ford and FCA yet to dip into EVs, Toyota and Honda into the hybrid incremental game.. I think there's a real chance that if the Bolt doesn't get a price cut in 2019 or another refresh it might see a big drop. We've seen GM make incredibly competent cars, heck all of Detroit, and they've just cancelled them left and right. What is the secret sauce that makes GM electric cars immune from short-term product cycles? Maybe they're just leaders, I'm seeing Lexus for example killing the IS and GS, for example...

I feel pretty good taking delivery of the very first new-design Compass from my workplace, seeing how sales for the model have sploded. Sad to see FCA starve the Chrysler brand. I adore the 300 and see no feasible replacement... unless it were a classy, RWD/AWD sedan... that's the only way to replace an icon. That new Ram truck is kicking buttocks and taking names. Sort of shocking for purists to see the Cherokee outsell the Grand Cherokee. That pullback from weirdness paid off in beaucoup Benjamins for FCA. What can be said about the Dodge Challenger? Perpetual SCHWING...

Well...that is great!!! Still does not change the fact that counting chickens before they hatch and the powers that be that regulate stock market prices is just that...speculation on nothing and the price goes up or down...yet Apple as of now is of no danger in folding....not with an 84 billion dollar year that they had. Correction in the stock price you say? What correction? Are we supposed to forget that Apple has been making tons of billions of dollars the past decade? How many billions did Apple make so far in the last 5 years (never you mind the last decade) that a mere 5 billion less for one year shock anybody? That 5 billion is pocket change... and keep in mind that it is not even a loss. Its just that they made 5 billion less than what the powers that be PREDICTED that they would make...and the stock prices go up and down just like that... Like I said, CEOs and top tier share holders counted 5 billion chickens too many for whatever King Midas reason they saw that many chickes and now they have to make do with only 84 rather than 89... Anyhoo...like I said...greed. And yeah, the most given by any other company...Ill just say, not nearly enough. For all of these corporations. They should be contributing more to our society with all those billions they make year after year after year.... Ill be careful as to not make myself look like a commie... How much? 5 billion? The check is in the mail....

I drove from Reno to Denver once in a rental Impala..the stretch from Reno to Salt Lake City is pretty ugly... just a lot of barren nothingness. Gigafactory 1 is near Clark, NV about 17 miles east of Reno in the void. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigafactory_1

Plus the BOLT is just so much more roomy inside over the VOLT. Volt Powertrain should have been as we have stated before in a CUV 3-4 years ago or at least when the Volt 2.0 came out should have had a Volt 2.0 CUV.

Interesting that those scumbags would be investing in EVs..I guess they are trying to think of a future beyond petrodollars...