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Saw this colorized pic on the FB...looks like a '39ish Ford COE with a custom cab..thought @balthazar would get a kick out of it. Neat looking truck.

Learn something new everyday. And, here, I would have assumed that an Italian tune-up is what happens to a person when they get the wrong folks, who tend to live inside lavish walled compounds in New Jersey, mad at them.

The opposite. However, it can cause problems if you've run crap fuel for 100k miles and then suddenly run E85 and the E85 starts to break up the deposits and let them loose into your engine. E85 is a solvent and really good at cleaning engine deposits, but you can't run it unless all of your fuel system is set up for it because it can dissolve rubberized parts. The Avalanche was built to run E85 and gets 326hp and 348 lb-ft of torque on E85 while getting 320hp and 335 lb-ft of torque on regular 87. My mileage on E85 is around 11-12 and on gasoline is 15-16. E85 is about 25 cents a gallon cheaper here than the cheapest regular (costco) and 55 cents cheaper than everyone else.

Oh, well it gets an Italian Tune Up every day then... sometimes multiple times a day. Plus I'm also running E85 through it every 3rd tank or so which should really clean out the engine good.

Except for the market that wants RWD V8s. EVERYTHING can't be a teeny 4-banger CUV.

Barf....they already have that niche covered w/ the small Jeeps...does the US market need more generics? The V8 RWD product is what makes Dodge stand out in a market full of fecal fwd/awd transverse engine despair gray interior generic appliances...Dodge doesn't need such chud...anyway, from the article, it sounds like the PSA stuff will be for the European market. Maybe the next gen Renegade and Compass will be on a PSA platform? Anyway, I do hope Stellantis finds a future for the Charger and Challenger and keeps them real...I'd hate to see those names and style wasted on appliances..

Funny this came up. @Paolino was asking me yesterday about it. He hasn't put gas in the car since March and the tank is full. I told him he needs to go burn through that tank soon and get a fresh tank in there.

In Europe, that is. Their products wouldn't fit at Dodge...small FWD hatchbacks wouldn't work in the US. Maybe some of the CUVs at Chrysler. Dodge is all about RWD V8..

^ That's open. No good. You need a '68 Grand Prix if you wanna be a gangster.

An italian tuneup.....drive it hard to "clean the carbon" out of her as they say...

What I described is what you would do if you were buying an EV tomorrow and lived in a situation where you couldn't charge at home. What I see happening in the mid-term future is that chargers at stores become substantially more common as new places are built or existing facilities are renovated. It will eventually become a revenue stream for them. Our local grocery chain (and others nationally) has spent million and millions putting gas stations in their parking lots and tying gas discounts to grocery purchases. I can absolutely see that same grocery chain doing the same thing with EV charging in their lots. But also, as charging gets more ubiquitous, people will finally learn that you don't need a full charge every single time. The mind set of "I have to fill up" will change to "oh, I'll just charge for 20 minutes while I'm in this store and then when I go to the doctor tomorrow I can charge there too". Even if you only charge at a rate of 100 miles per 30 minutes, that's enough for a couple days of errands. The fueling of EVs requires a complete shift in mentality. Without that shift in mindset, of course EV's "won't work" if one keeps thinking in old ways.

Yep. Hmmm, I got like 11 mpg running E in mine too. I know what you've been doing because I know how I drove mine! ?? Actually, my avg. would drop into single digits because I lived up a steep hill and the loud pedal would be smashed for about 20 sec straight on the daily, had to try to improve my avg. time of course ?

I have always liked driving these. I fit really well in the driver seat and everything is ergonomically great. The balance of the car, the steering, the handling are all superb. Could it use a bit more horsepower? Sure, but I wouldn't want it to disturb the balance of the car.

My previous next-door neighbors had bought a wrecked red FR-S/86 for their teenage son a couple years ago...was missing most of the front end..they rebuilt it in their driveway and at one point had it in the backyard up on ramps, I think they took the engine out w/ a block and tackle attached to a tree branch...Ukrainian shade tree mechanics. It was zooming around the neighborhood the last year going BrrraWWWWWppppp...

This is the CAI I like. I like it because the box has insulation in it and the tube is plastic so it doesn't absorb heat like metal would. https://www.coldairinductions.com/shop/cold-air-inductions-products/cold-air-intakes/chevrolet/avalanche/2009-2013-gm-v8-fullsize-truck-and-suv-cold-air-intake-black/

Too soon for this to happen in 5 years. But it IS happening. Ill repeat, no matter how much head banging, crying, denying we do in 2020, ICE bans in city centers is a real thing. By the end of this decade, the planning and execution of city center ICE bans will be announced for the next decade. (2030s) The poor cant afford food....and ESPECIALLY in the US...ya'll say phoqu'em anyway. So you are worried about the poor affording EVs? The poor have had NO compassion in the US since at least from the late 1960s...and every decade since then, the poor have gotten the shaft worse and worse and you worry what the poor will be driving? The poor have gotten shyttier jobs with even shyttier paychecks decade after decade and now with minimum wage wars where the political divide got to decide who was the President last elections (MAGA and Bring back the jobs and all that, to which the Donald did nothing to help BUT to divide even more, and especially its allies, Canada) and you are worried about single mothers driving ratty old Corollas in an EV world? Where even some of the poor in the US dont want minimum wage jobs and would rather sit home and worse, when some US folk dont want minimum wage to go up as THAT hurts corporation profits? When most in the US do NOT want unions... Unions PROTECT the worker. But most US folk see unions as a bad thing for...corporations? Corporations that WILLINGLY left the US for slave work in other countries? Where most poor, but not so poor, would rather buy take-out food, on a CREDIT card, get it delivered by UBER (all unnecessary fees and expenses) than to live life a tad more restrained? (hence my ratty 19 year old Cadillac Lyriq comment comes in, because THAT is a very real thing in the US and Canada) Its NOT the wide-eyed EV folk that wish ill on the poor. The wide eyed EV folk want a better planet to live in. Maybe a tad naive on their part, but your argument is NOT with the wide-eyed EV folk here. Its the shytty politicians and corporate vultures that have waged a war on the poor. Since a loooong time ago. The politicians that want ICE bans from city centers maybe gullible and might miss some critical details here and there, please dont make this into a poor people pity fest and make it seem like the EV revolution is all evil-like. The evil-like aura we have and the wage on poor people is the corporate way of life we choose to live by and have been doing so since the 1960s... and maybe the EV thing is a part of it, but its part of the cycle. A cycle that was put in place a long time ago. Greedy capitalism... And one could argue that this EV eutopia is nothing but a greedy capitalism thing, but no different than the dirty oil greed... We could scream and shout. ICE WILL be banned and automakers from NOW, are complying with that future... Its really not up to the consumer. The fate for ICE has been sealed. Whether you like it or not.

Sweet!

In many... perhaps a majority of instances, inner cities house lower and low income families. SCENARIO :: •• Imagine you're a single mother of 2, living in half a duplex in an urban center. While your kids are in school, you have a short workday waiting tables at a diner. Your ratty 19-yr old Corolla takes you there, drops/picks up the kids from school, takes them to the doctor's, etc. You struggle, but you're keeping your head above water. The Corolla parks at the curb, because you have no driveway. One afternoon you overhear 2 city planners at lunch @ the diner, talking about banning all gas cars/truck in the city in 5 years, because "it'll be good for the environment". You try not to panic. You've read an article; electric cars should be charged every night. You have no driveway, you don't even have an extension cord... not that that wouldn't likely be 1. tripped over by a pedestrian, or 2. stolen within a week. The diner has no facility to plug in. Plus, most electric cars are hella expensive. Cheapest nisson leaf on cargurus is $4 grand, (when your beater Corolla cost you only $1K and it now worth scrap value) - where are you supposed to come up with 4 grand?? Maybe the city planners will leave one of those newsworthy mega tips. Can you whip up some fake tears and a sniffle? After all; they arrived for lunch in a brand new city-bought Tesla... ••

Is that from today forward, that '50 years'... or are you counting from the 'new' start of 1997 (which would mean by 2054). I'm working on a wager proposal and I need your terms defined.

I buy the Defenders because they drive well, ride well, and I get good fuel economy with them. A big However, is that I never get full treadlife out of them. I rely on that long warranty because I kill them in about 35k miles, but I get more than 50% off the next set of tires. Michelin has to be losing money on me when I buy tires. The Goodyear Triple treads on the Encore have lasted 55k miles and technically still have treadlife left before needing to be replaced. But they are dryrotted and hard. The car rides rough and we noticed an immediate hit to our fuel economy when we first put them on. It came with Continental ContiTracks and we were able to cruise at 34mpg in it. These days with the Goodyears, we barely manage 30mpg highway. The new Costco ad is offering $110 off a set of for Michelins, so I think it will be going in for them before the end of the month.

I only buy from Costco anymore because they only stock excellent quality tires as prices better than any competition. I have searched and price shopped tires for the fleet many times over the years and every time I've NOT used Costco, I've gotten burned. Also, Costco doesn't give me lip about warranty replacement, they just do it as long as it's still in warranty. And if you buy the tires there, the road hazard warranty is free for the first 5 years. I've used that benefit a couple times. CNet is correct in that the selection of tires they have is limited. When I first needed tires on the Encore, they didn't stock the size from either brand they carry (Michelin or Bridgestone) and I ended up going with a local chain. Narrowing it down a bit further... I'm pretty much only ever buying Michelin Defenders. I've had good results from them on the Honda for 2 sets of tires and the warranty is long. That's what the Avalanche will get once it is time and the Encore will be scoring a set this fall if we keep it into winter.

Sorry Balthy, I must disagree with that point of view. If there is a will, there is a way. If the going get tough, the tough get going. The ultimate measure of man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy- MLK

So your logic smk is to kill any brand selling less than the Rav4?? wow.

Yes, Italian-Americans working in a business of a likely illegal nature..

Your tone-deaf “one or a couple” is a lot closer to 50 million people than it is to 2.

There are no production solid state battery vehicles. I guarantee you they'll be priced at a premium to 'regular' EV vehicles, at least initially. This places them even further out of 'Maria's' reach than a 10-yr old Leaf. IC bans CANNOT be enacted until the tech is readily able to filter down to the low income tier of consumers.

And RWD V8 is dying fast. I am a rear drive V8 fan, but the market wants fwd crossovers which PSA has.

Ahhh, thank you!

It's known to corrode the aluminum internals, but that's only with long term use when it's all you're running. Better to mix or switch off like Drew is doing. Interesting fact, on cold start up the fumes smell a lot like rubbing alcohol ?

AKA cleaning out the carbon! Haha E85 gives her a few more ponies too, but watch the mpg's drop a few. I used to do the same with my '09 Silvy CC that was a Flexfuel. Runs richer on E85 bcus it's not as volatile as gasoline, but does burn much cleaner.

You've never heard of an "Italian tune up"? "If you've never heard the phrase "Italian tune up" before, basically, it means driving your car hard and bringing it to redline with the goal of flushing out any deposits or gunk. Depending on what you believe, it works... or it doesn't. Jason Fenske of Engineering Explained is here to settle the debate once and for all." https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/buying-maintenance/a23778262/italian-tune-up-explained/

Yep, similar to my Airaid CAI system on my truck, thick ABS plastic tube as well, that's what you want ??Wait until you stand on it the first time after install, sounds pretty good, like an old 4 barrel Quadrajet carb when the huge secondaries open ???????

Like I said... By THAT time...WIRELESS charging will be a thing. But then again, I know some folks who have houses, no driveways, have cars...old cars. Jalopies. But...dont put full up to the rim when empty, and ONLY drive when absolutely necessary. PS: Hydro-Quebec cuts the power to them in the summer, NOT the winter. Because too cold. Its inhumane. Because they dont pay their hydro bills I also know folk that DO have driveways, have not that old vehicles, but poor nonetheless, pay their bills, but their home is a disaster. No maintenance done either to their cars or their home. And rough Quebec winters makes things old real fast... (You know where Im going with this?) But...MANDATORY EVs will somehow be worse for them? You are selling a scenario but I aint buying it...

lol

You know that is not how it works... New tech is expensive. Old world greedy oil will NEVER allow for fair market practice. (you see it in Michigan where Tesla is BANNED from selling its cars sans dealership...) (Ironic we are talking about bans...)

That yellow car would be nice as a Dodge Neon. With a modded 4 banger...Neon SRT4 has a nice familiar ring to it. And if Stellantis wants an EV/Hybrid version for it, especially as a Dodge...Neon cant be any better for a name.

Fiat unquestionably does, if it has any image at all. But Chrysler & Dodge have very good images- you're stuck in 1982 with that. Dodge also isn't "dead weight"- they moved 422K units in '19 withOUT Ram. Alfa is what's dead weight; 18K units sold, down almost 23% from 2018. Citroen & Peugeot are dead on arrival- lost in the crowd with nothing to pull buyers with and a negative image. Carlos can try and bring something here, but he had better understand the market before pushing billions anywhere or he's going to lose.

@balthazar That woman you speak of, maybe a sister, or niece, could very well be in an auto powered by an NDB Battery and will never have to worry about recharging in her life time. Per my quote on page 50 Yet with this is others that believe NDB Battery tech is the future. This would be a safe recycled nuclear waste into a self charging battery pack. This would end up with a true lifetime battery pack that would outlast any other. Quote the tech from their web site: Diamond Nuclear Voltaic (DNV): NDB is one of the earliest adopters and developers of this technology backed up by recent publications. Typically, DNV as a device is a combination of a semiconductor , metal and ceramic which has two contact surfaces to facilitate charge collection. Several single units are attached together to create a stack arrangement, which is fabricated to create a positive and negative contact surface similar to a common battery system. Every layer of the DNV stack consists of a high energy output source. This kind of arrangement improves the overall efficiency of the system and provides a multi layer safety shield for the product. Rapid conversion from radiation to electricity: All radioisotopes are known to produce high amounts of heat. The strategic placement of the source between the DNV units facilitates inelastic scattering originated due to the presence of single crystalline diamond (SCD) in the DNV unit. This design prevents self-absorption of heat by the radioisotope and enables rapid conversion to usable electricity. Thin film structure: The thin-film profile exhibited by NDB allows radiation absorption in the single crystalline diamond with minimal self adsorption. Due to its flexible design structure, this technology can take any shape and form in accordance to the application. This makes NDB’s battery system market friendly. Nuclear recycle process: Utilization of radioactive waste as otherwise is a subject not many have looked into. At NDB, we aim to reuse the nuclear fuel by reprocessing and recycling to enable sustainability and promote a clean energy source in a safe and secure environment. Safety One of the key innovations of NDB is its highly sophisticated safety feature covering the three most important aspects of thermal, mechanical and radiation safety. The battery system uses several concepts to ensure maximum safety of the device: Diamond encapsulator: The DNV stacks along with the source are coated with a layer of poly-crystalline diamond, which is known for being the most thermally conductive material also has the ability to contain the radiation within the device and is the hardest material, twelve times tougher than stainless steel. This makes our product extremely tough and tamperproof. Built in thermal vents: The high energy source present in the battery system produces heat during operation. This leads to thermal conduction in the system. Thermal vents in the system help conduct this process with respect to the outer surface of the diamond to keep the interiors at an optimum level. Boron-doped SCD: Trying to utilise every aspect in the system, NDB in addition to alpha and beta also incorporates usage of neutron radiations by utilising a boron-10 doping. Doping helps to convert the extra neutron into alpha ray. Lock-in System: Using a nuclear power source for a battery system brings up the question of nuclear proliferation due to production of fissionable isotopes such as Pu- 238 and U-232. To tackle this issue, NDB uses an ion implantation mechanism called “lock-in system” which prevents usage other than power generation. This increases the usability, by meeting consumer safety requirements https://ndb.technology

@oldshurst442 You got my curiosity and in looking, WOW, lots of concepts but also plenty of actual ELECTRIC TRACTORS for sale. Seems the push is to also clean up the air and reduce noise pollution and maintenance cost by going electric in the Tractor market too. https://www.kubota.com/news/2020/20200115_2.html https://www.deere.com/en/engines-and-drivetrain/vehicle-electrification/ https://www.farmshow.com/view_articles.php?a_id=139 John Deere shows off their electric Tractor for commercial use. https://www.futurefarming.com/Machinery/Articles/2018/1/This-is-the-Fendt-e100-Vario-electric-tractor-4419WP/ https://www.solectrac.com/

Minor detail...but horses and buggies had THOUSANDS of years... And with a blink of an eye, the industrial revolution of which the automobile is very much part of...CHANGED the way humans live. And yes...the automobile, tractor, 18 wheeler, delivery panel van, limousine VIP transport, assault tank, replaced the horse and buggy. The tractor is PART of the industrial revolution. The tractor HAS an internal combustion engine and is PART of the automobile revolution. The Model T was also a tractor BTW...and Balthy...you are the one to teach me that. So...

Seems Jeep has released details of what is coming in the 2021 Gladiators and while new features is hitting every trim line, there is a New Willey package you can order your Gladiator with along with an 80th Anniversary package. It also seems that the Ford Bronco has Forced Jeeps Hand. Before you had to always purchase more expensive packages to get certain features. Example is that if you wanted the rear and Forward Trail cam feature on a base model. No Can Do unless you buy the Rubicon package. Now it seems from the Base model to the Rubicon you can get many different features at all levels individually without purchasing the whole upper level package and this includes that the 2021 Gladiator will have a Diesel option that the Grand Cherokee and RAM have had. https://www.motortrend.com/news/2021-jeep-gladiator-changes-willys-anniversary-first-look-review/

I do, and the thing that saved me from costly tickets was the fact that none of my 3 vehicles had over 160hp. Now I have a vehicle with 326 horsepower (and probably a CAI coming soon). I gotta watch myself in the new wheels.

It was on the AWD Honda CR-V. I'm pretty good about tire rotations too. I have it done at every oil change and on the CR-V that was at 7,500 miles. Keep in mind that the quality of the roads here in PA are substantially different than what you have out your way.

If FCA would sell the LX platform cars with a V8 and AWD, I would soooo be there. I'm surprised the '63 to '91 Jeep Grand Wagoneer isn't on the list. I would totally daily a '91.

Didn't you hate Ford with passion? 50 mile radius from where I live: Cheapest V8 Camaro - $37.5k Cheapest V8 Mustang - $38k Most expensive 86 - $29.6k

You also can't get the 6.2 or 5.0 in any base trims. The Camaro you have to get the LT1 trim which is above 1LS, 1LT, 2LT, and 3Lt. The Mustang packaging is a little more difficult to compare but it is similar to the base 2.3. It adds some interior goodies the base 2.3 doesn't have like powered seats and reverse sensing system...not a whole lot more inside. You're pretty much paying for the engine, suspension, differential, wheels, and some exterior things like a rear diffuser and spoiler. There's a lot more available to option up but, that's another story. Completely understandable. Wow, that's a GREAT commercial.