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Happy first day of autumn, C&G folks. Possibly my favorite season, even though I like going to the beach, too. Incredible Acadia National Park in Maine in autumn. Once was not enough.

Ford actually listened to its customers, which I think is great. Ford Bronco will get a manual with the Sasquatch package after all https://www.autoblog.com/2020/09/21/ford-bronco-manual-sasquatch-package/

Let's see...the Silverado is hideous, the Corvette styling is derivative of every other mid engine sports car of the last 20 years with a few really odd details, the CT5 had bad C-pillar trim that ruins the profile, the new Escalade is dulled down up front and looks like an enlarged XT6, the Malibu is so bland it could get lost in an empty parking lot, the Camaro with it's chop top needs a periscope to see out, etc...lots of forgettable appliances otherwise...not much really stands out....it's.hardly GM's golden age of styling.

All in the same! Yep! Love me a K5 Blazer!

Well, you already know my opinion on the CT6... I'd have one in an instant if I could. I still think it is one of the most handsome designs to come out of GM in a generation. My point was aside from those... the Denali, the Escalade, the CT6, possibly Enclave.... there is nothing at GM that lights my fire. They're either mediocre (the rest of the Cadillac/Buick lineup) or they're UGLY (half the Silverado lineup, all of the Chevy/GMC full-size SUVs). I had a Terrain Denali 2.0T last year as a tester and it's a perfectly competent vehicle, but the outside is just so homely.... I would pick the Pilot, Cherokee, or CX5 over it based on looks alone. The Acadia looks like someone grafted a Sierra front clip onto the earlier version of the crossover and it just doesn't work. Is there a more "bar of soap" crossover out there than the Equinox? Three way tie with the new Escape and the Model-Y for that title? The Blazer isn't too bad from the front, but they used all of the styling budget up there and had none left for the rear. The Corvette is cool I guess, but so far out of my wheelhouse as to not register as a real car.

My comments like above should always be prefaced with the "If life allowed". I'm not buying a Denali because I can't afford one. I'm not buying a CT6 because it high centers on my driveway. A large three-row could conceivably be in my future, but I can name a few I would buy before the Enclave. I liked the ELR as a potential commuter for Albert, but without AWD and with having the haul his parents, it's a no-go. What I was saying was those vehicles are the only GMs on the list that would even get the attention from me to buy if I was in the position to do so.

Love the first 4 generations of Zs...my sister owned one of each over the years...'77, '82, '86, and '90 IIRC...I rode in all of them, and drove the last one a fair bit..sweet cars.

I'm with @A Horse With No Name, the only things at GM I really like are the Sierra Denali and the Escalade. The rest of Cadillac's lineup is lost on me now that the CT6 is dead. I think the new Suburban/Tahoe/Yukons are fuuuu-gly. The GMC crossovers are terrible. I suppose I could do an Enclave if I had to, but there are other options from other manufacturers I'd pick first.

This on the other hand is pure sex on wheels. Love GMC. 5.3 L V8

The next big thing?

SIlverado, Corvette, CT5, Escalade, Malibu, upcoming Hummer, Camaro, still the Enclave.... plenty of striking design out of GM these days relative to the industry. Certainly not 'mediocre' compared to the competition. What; Nissan? Toyoter? BMW? I think not. Compare styling- who's mediocre?

Every year in recent years I've tried to sit in and check out a variety of new vehicles at the annual local dealer auto show, and the #1 thing I find as a turn off about many new GM vehicles (under $50k or so) are the damn despair gray or charcoal/black GM interiors...so dour and bland, bland, bland. It's better than the Tupperware/Fisher Price shit they had in the 90s-00s, but still nothing special in the design or materials, IMO. Of course, not to knock on GM only, but pretty much everything 'cheap' (< $50k) these days has a gray or charcoal plastic interior. Some execute the plastics better than others, though.

Drew :: I understand what you're saying, but the question wasn't 'what vehicles can't navigate your driveway?'; it was addressing a claim that GM 'needs a stylistic trend away from coasting mediocrity of blah design'. I personally don't see GM design today being anything less than on par with the competition, or in some cases exceeding it. On the point of potential sales in the short run, I agree. However, in that the industry is moving in that direction, AS LONG AS there are IC trucks alongside an EV trim, I'm fine with that. With global market share at 2.6%, it's not likely IC is going anywhere in our lifetime. EV sales will piddle along in the short run- those that want one can pony up & hopefully be happy. The long run is anyone's guess.

Datsun was my favorite Japanese brand. They veered far off a path that garnered them a lot of goodwill. I even liked this, and actually wanted one for a while when they were new:

...but a WONDERFUL name for a 4X4!

True, Hoovers can SUCK well! Agree, that the original Z that started this is still a looker to this day!

Maybe when that Miata got it on with the cardboard box it was a three way with a vacuum cleaner. That thing looks like it belongs on a shop vac. Maybe this thing could suck up sawdust off my wood shop floor... because I would be to embarrassed to take it autocrossing. The original Z car is gorgeous.

And this looks nothing like the slab-sided 350Z....

Largish RWD sedan w/ a 5.0 V8...this is exactly the sort of sedan Lincoln needs....

Newest photo's show the true size of the Ford Maverick Mini Pickup with a Ford Ranger right behind it. additional views of the truck with the Ranger on the site. https://www.autoblog.com/2020/09/21/ford-maverick-spy-photos-suspension/

If you don't watch anything else...watch this...impressive.

Not my cupoftea....but my sister just Bought an Escalade. It pulls off the big square body look well, and is a great vehicle. Happy for her...but what she spent would buy a Gladiator Rubicon or a Ford Raptor. They will get it right, and sell plenty. Being the First to market isn't always the best. Google Dehaviland Comet....British had an advantage in Jet passenger air travel....until initial design flaws were revealed. Beoing took the lead and never looked back....until the current fiascos with the 737 MAX. Rivan and Tesla suing each other, that won't end well at all for either of them. No. I think it will be a good product. It's just that fullsize trucks are so lucrative that I think the market will become even more competitive and see new players in the segment eventually. I am saying from a design standpoint, I don't really see them as being above the curve in any real tangible way. I damn sure wouldn't buy a Telluride but a hell of a lot of consumers would take it (and rightfully so) over anything in its segment from Ford, GM, or even Toyota.

I do find it bothersome that Ford has continually slipped on when they will have their electric F-150 out in production. Now according to Detroit Press, production is to begin in mid 2022 as a 2023 model? This would put them behind Rivian, Tesla, GM and who knows who else. https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2020/09/17/ford-invests-rouge-electric-f-150-uaw/5819541002/

Did you forget about the Electric F-150? https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022-ford-f-150-electric-everything-we-know/

This is probably my favorite new vehicle. I think, Baltahzar can probably tell us. I had my 70 Chevelle in high school repainted from white to Firethron Red, a Cadillac color supposedly. the body shop guy who did the painting said it was the same color as on olds and Buick, Baltahzar set that one straight.

One thing I realized about vintage GM paints is that I was confusing Firethorn with Firemist... Firethorn was a specific late 70s color, while Firemist was a style of paint--metallics? I've seen reds and aquas, etc from the 60s-70s referred to as Firemist. Something like that?

Here, you have corroboration of the legitimacy of schemata: a Volvo wagon, a Cal (Berkeley) sticker, a pro-Hillary sticker, and, the car was spotted in the Bay Area before the last election, possibly inside the San Francisco city limits.

There is a shortage of big, comfortable cars since most are the sport sedan so I think this will have appeal to those that want a traditional American luxury car, even though this isn’t American. This sort of sits alone in the market but I don’t know if there are enough buyers left for this sort of vehicle.

WOW, The American brands need to pay attention to this car. European needs to watch as this is hot. Normal questions from the Sasquatch of the site. Headroom, hip room and Leg room for tall large people? Is the dash intuitive? Seat's, comfy lazy boy style, Ricardo racer style or somewhere in between? Road and wind noise, just how quiet is it?

With few exceptions, the domestics are already truck and CUV/SUV only, sadly. I like SUVs, but very few of them..no interest in the generic CUVs that dominate the market. And I've never needed or wanted a truck. Oh well... it was good while it lasted, don't know what you have until it's gone...

Been seeing more and more R-31 to R-34 Nissan Skylines in Washington lately. http://davidsclassiccars.com/nissan/115285-1987-nissan-skyline-gts-r-1-of-800.html

The new K5 looks better, IMO....they should have kept the Optima name, K5 is such an uninspired name for a midsize sedan.

Honestly outside of the passable but forgettable Maxima and the reliable but dull and dated Frontier Nissan has completely lost its mojo.

Yeah, but design doesn’t have to be ‘ahead of the curve’ to NOT be mediocre... unless you think the median industry desogn level is mediocre.

On a happier note... Still love ICE...would take the Gladiator over the Tacoma. More ICE love

The above posts kinda splits the point. Under the topic of ‘mediocre design’, there are a bunch of vehicles I like that I still wouldn’t buy; I need/want a large truck: just because I wouldn’t buy a Corvette doesn’t mean I can’t find it highly appealing stylistically. Conversely, one can buy something they don’t find particularly striking visually. And what if I’m in love with 6 or 8 different vehicles? Buying or not buying is secondary to the discussion. I LOVE the Sierra Denali’s looks, but I’m not buying one. Once everything is mediocre, nothing is.

There is not a single GM product right now I would personally choose over the competition. New Vette is well recieved, but would rather personally have a Shelby Mustang. I don't trust cylinder de activation tech in the Dodge of GM V8's, lots of reasons I wouldn't buy any of them. Would buy a TRD V6 Camry over the wimpy 1.5L Malibu so fast it would make your head spin. Actually Blazer and Colorado would be where I would most like to put my money were I to buy GM. Would kind of love to rock a ZR2 Colorado. But would have to talk myself out of a Gladiator Rubicon first. I do think GM will have good battery EV tech. But doing this with any midsize truck....Glaidator, Ranger, Colroado, Tacoma...would be Epic. Leaving out ridgeline because its AWD system is more oriented to on road use.

Both?

One year CARVERSARY today. WOOT.

Hopefully the Hummer by GMC can change that by starting a stylistic trend away from coasting mediocrity of blah design. Chevrolet trucks is a perfect example of an ugly brick design that just screams HELL NO!

meh, IS IT STILL 2005 looks like a heavy rebadge job

No need to apologize. We appreciate your continued commitment to the site. The G90 is a massive car, old school in the very best way. It's the type of car missed by Lincoln and Cadillac owners of yore.

More feel-good marketing spin. EVERY brand out there has -or will in the next 11 minutes- claim the very same thing.

Yeah, but, that doesn't mean it looks good.

I am not loving it but neither hating it, it is kind of cool but something is missing for me. In any case would take it over the Supra without any doubt.

A blunt rectangular grille on an otherwise 'swoopy' design always looks like a drunken mistake.

Super clean :