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Remember when I said the Hummer EV would be 100k, with everything they're promising and David was like "it'll start in the 50's". ? Their "cheap" one isn't due for another four years and that's 80k. $112,695.

It’s not past prices, hence the term ‘adjusted’. H1 IC today would be $68K, a “cheaper to build” E version should come in below that, not twelve grand higher. It SHOULD be within $1000 of the IC version... but I actually expect it’ll be about 10 grand more. “Cheaper to build EVs” is still just vaporware.

I think the Mini, Fiat and Smart failed as it did not give what people were really wanting. A micro sized Pickup hauls two people and a 6 ft bed would give them what they want. People want trucks and suvs in all sizes right now. @balthazar @riviera74 @A Horse With No Name @Robert Hall @ykX Guess everyone underestimated GM hitting a home run as in the first 10 minutes, the first year of Hummer EV pickup for 2021, the 2022 model year has sold out. You can get a reservation for 2023 model year. https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022-gmc-hummer-ev-truck-edition1-sold-out/ https://insideevs.com/news/450119/gmc-hummer-ev-edition-1-sold-out/ https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/gmc-hummer-ev-sold-out https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/gmc-hummer-ev-sold-out-reservations-edition-1-production/

I think Edge tends to work best at the moment.....

Which is crazy, that little potato looks like it should be around $20k tops...

Me thinking it would start at 100k wasn't me being negative though. It's just being realistic as EV are priced significantly more than ICE and the things they were featuring, like 1000hp and 4 wheel steer, are things that'll make them more expensive. A Bolt is nearly 40k. A super truck with super capabilities was going to be through the roof, imo.

Seattle School district a few years ago paid 3 men millions of dollars to come out of retirement to help get their data off a custom Cobol based scheduling system and onto a modern school scheduling system. Was crazy as they also just last year decommissioned their attendance system which was based on Digitals VMS system which I admit to having worked on. NERDS Rule!!!

Avoid Opera and Epic, seems to have way too much advertisements to help pay for their development. Safari is as far as I know a Mac only browser now. I agree with Robert, I use on both home and work systems the latest MSFT Edge browser, works way better than Firefox and chrome even though it is a chrome based browser.

Yes, hardcore..though I haven't had to deal w/ COBOL other than one class in college over 30 years ago... (COBOL is an old school computer programming language dating to 1959, but still in use today in many backend systems in banking and other niches..it's evolved quite a bit over the decades).

Nerd. ?

I use Safari everyday on my Mac, it's the default browser on the Mac...don't think there is a Windows version of it anymore. I have to use Chrome occasionally as I find some websites that don't work well w/ Safari. As far as Windows, I use Windows 10 for work and I do have to test the corporate applications/websites I build with a variety of browsers--MS Edge, Chrome, and Firefox. And occasionally with IE (though it is obsolete and no longer supported). The other fringe browsers like Brave or Opera have so little market share that they are pretty much ignored. My favorite browser on Windows currently is the latest version of Edge, which is Chrome-based but performs better than Chrome.

Electrified yes, but the battery tech with charging is only recent, not 100 years old. Yes we could go even older with supposed batteries found in Egypt. Yes Batteries have been around a long time too, human intelligence took time to grow to the point where we are now making huge gains in tech that will change our world for the better I believe. Yes your right, I was clearly looking at the Hummer EV3X that is 800 HP, 3 motors, etc.

Well that wasn't fun, but everything is upgraded now. You're probably getting a "Not Secure" message from your browser. I'm working on that now.

Of course we need to see what the '24 base model is equipped like, but the 'much cheaper to build an EV' thing still isn't getting passed on to consumers... at ALL. If such were true, the base Hummer should come in UNDER the original H1 in price- more like $55 instead of $80K.

I would get the longer version. Usually I break down lumber at the sawmill into oversize parts of what I want to build. Then I plane and Joint the lumber in my shop. But good point as I would want it long enough to sleep inside. I seriously dislike the other small cargo vans on the market so Transit connect is the only game in town here. If I do need to move fill length lumber I have the Ranger or easy access to several friends with F150's. And if I need a bunch of lumber...both Kiem lumber and 5th Ave lumber will happily deliver any order over $500. They will build cheaper trucks with time. Or even something the size of the original S10.

Detailed Media Releases on the Hummer EV https://media.gmc.com/media/us/en/gmc/home.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2020/oct/1021-hummer-edition-1-experience.html https://media.gmc.com/media/us/en/gmc/home.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2020/oct/1021-hummer-edition-1-off-road.html https://media.gmc.com/media/us/en/gmc/home.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2020/oct/1021-hummer-edition-1-performance.html https://media.gmc.com/media/us/en/gmc/hummer-ev.html

It is bigger than Raptor and priced at over $110k. Just a toy for the very rich.

Noooo; the Raptor starts at $53K.

Well I don't know what I finally did to fix it... but at least it is working now.

Hmmm...MicroFocus.. Old school, yet still strangely useful.

In regard to me thinking positive that they will start in the $50K range, Gotta be positive on all new tech. Chevrolet version will probably be there since clearly Hummer is the Cadillac version of the trucks. Clarify? Ya mean how we can now do a 350V fast charge something that did not exist 100 years ago. Faster charging will come as battery tech continues to make jumps. I can also see just like ICE with a Jeep Wrangler having a couple of 5 gallon tanks full of petro. I can see replaceable battery packs eventually that are solid state you would have fully charged when you go off road to swap out to keep on wheeling, use, etc.

I was led to believe this was impossible (have seen it frequently tho relative to the rarity of Teslas). No visible accident damage. Not sure what the tailgate sentiment meant :

Congrats

Oddly enough...after not seeing anything interesting for like forever...was out running errands in my Ranger...and .. 56 Chevy 4 door 69 Thunderbird 4 door 59 Chevy sedan delivery 72 Chevelle SS Watched at E46 M3 rear end a Dodge minivan Saw a late model Ram pickup that seemed to have a dead cat....a real dead cat... permanently mounted as a good ornament. Not making that one up...but odd.

I think it will depend on how successful it ends up. I could live with just 250 miles, and don’t really need the fancy cruise, adjustable height, or a few other things. I think this could be a lot of fun for many folks even if they only get 70% of it. Most of us do not need all of the toys on it.’ The only thing that I would like to see stay would be the removable roof. It is cool, and every truck having it would keep the cost down. I think GM is trying this to see where their future EV trucks are going to look like with their whole truck line’s future. Who knows what other ideas might come out of it....

I am not worried about price. I think the tech is cool and the vehicle is cool. I will never own one...I will never own a supercharged 39 Graham or a Range Rover Evoque either... doesn't keep me from thinking all 3 vehicles are hella cool. Agreed...but we have been building infrastructure and supply chain support for ICE for 130 years...ICE has a bit of a head start. Adjusted for inflation a 56 Ford F100 is s about 17 grand...I will take one of those please.

Future EV pickups..will be interesting to see how many of these actually are produced and how many go nowhere... https://www.autoblog.com/2020/10/21/electric-pickup-truck-list/

Cannot live in the past prices though, everything has gotten more expensive as incomes have gone up. As such, prices will come down but after years of R&D on technology for this Hummer EV. They are doing a natural Business case of building the luxury rich persons version first and then we will see lower priced versions. I expect the Chevrolet Full Size EV truck that is also coming to be much cheaper and RWD as well as AWD to be in the price range most people expect.

Yep, about 80 grand to start.....not quite as bad....

Transit Connect load floor is LESS than 6 feet long (70").

Would love to have one...bit out of my price range though!

Looks pretty good to me!

There is no quality ICE vehicle for $15k new But I think having a good EV in the $25-35k range will do the trick.

Hummer EV is a GMC answer to the Ford Raptor! Another good review of the new Hummer EV.

Saw the new pics of the Hummer EV. Looks slick. I like the T-top and targa top combo and the big frunk. https://www.autoblog.com/2020/10/20/2022-gmc-hummer-ev-reveal/

I put a bigger cam and springs in it before the engine was put in the car. Got the car back from having all the major work done. Now its up to me to finish it up. I don't think I will work on until April or so with the goal to have it on the road at the end of May. The joys of Michigan winters! The wire harness was delivered today. I still need to order an exhaust system and get a Y-pipe made. I now have a 3.73 geared 10 bolt that needs to be installed along with the tubular torque arm, lower control arms and panhard rod that are still sitting in my basement. The trans that came with the engine was a mess so my already blown budget got blown even more with a rebuild but at least I know it is fresh and was done correctly. Now I just need to keep my fingers crossed that the engine isn't also garbage. Lots of little stuff left to do before it will run and drive. Left the AC bits in there but don't plan to get it working until after I get the car running and drive it around for a while to make sure the engine is good. Here's a few more pics:

MANY Jerseyians proudly insist there's a 'Central Jersey' (as do I). That said : Trenton is right in the center (north-to-south), and the majority of the southern half is fairly sparsely populated. Drive Rt 539 thru the Pine Barrens is interesting if you've also seen the northeast quadrant of the state. I don't like the urban areas. Trenton is OK because I've been there on occasion all my life (plus; born there). But up towards Elizabeth / Newark and I start getting nervous. Most of my growin' up was in a strictly rural area- the 2 nearest towns had about 2000 residents. I know I've heard the pronunciation of 'Ve-hickle' in a couple of movies, but couldn't tell you which ones. I've not heard someone say it in person (speaking seriously).

Find this video to be a very balanced review of the F-150 EV truck versus the Tesla Cyber Truck. Thought this was also a good video about the up coming top 5 EV trucks.

Now that is a war where I do not want a decisive winner. GO everybody! If the batteries are great, then charging time should be dramatically reduced and efficiencies raised. It may be the next decade where BEVs can truly replace ICE at all new car levels. This race for the best EV batteries is so good, that by 2035, even ocnblu might actually want one as a latecomer.

For most people, I think the current RX is still a good choice. Should admit I haven't heard much about what is in store for the next-gen model. Not really, the third-row is best for boneless humans as there is limited head and legroom. It also eats up a fair amount of cargo space. Hopefully this gets slightly addressed in the next-generation.

Thanks! We pick it up in about 2 hours.

@Drew Dowdell You got the 300C you've been wanting! Shhh...nobody tell Albert I like the two tone interior when the lighter colors aren't overdone and the dash isn't a light color. A light colored dash reflects up on the windshield when it's sunny creating a distraction, and once you notice it it will drive you crazy, so a black or dark colored dash is the way to go. Congrats!

Seems Ford is finding new savings on the Mustang Mach e and has slashed prices up to $3,000. https://electrek.co/2020/09/29/ford-slashes-mustang-mach-e-electric-car-prices/#more-149004 GM has Announced that they have started testing their Ultium Battery system that will power their next generation of EV's that are coming out starting with Cadillac and Hummer by GMC. The battery packs will last for 1 million miles. https://electrek.co/2020/09/29/gm-tests-ultium-battery-system-cruise-origin-autonomous-electric-vehicle/#more-148985 Tesla has announced that they have secured an order for 130 of the Tesla Semi Class 8 trucks from Walmart of Canada. Walmart has over $2 million dollars in deposits to Tesla for their Semi Truck orders that are now over $20 million on the books. Quote from Walmart of Canada: “Walmart Canada is now reserving a total of 130 Tesla Semi trucks, making it one of the largest reservations of electrified trucks in the country. The move comes on the heels of Walmart Canada announcing a major $3.5 billion investment over the next five years aimed to generate significant growth in the business and is aligned with Walmarts global goal to target zero emissions by 2040 announced at Climate Week earlier this month.” https://electrek.co/2020/09/29/tesla-tsla-secures-order-tesla-semi-electric-trucks-walmart/#more-148949

As we discussed recently...GREATTTTT choice. Love it. AWD and the 3.6L/8-speed in these is a pleasure, and feels even balsier, with the changes in gearing. All all the extra options and a great color combo, and check, check, check. Awesome. Even I approve?

NYSHE ONE!

@ocnblu is the best at this. He got the Avalanche too. 2017 Chrysler 300C, AWD, white with the linen interior. CarPlay, heated/ventilated seats, pano sunroof, adaptive cruise with lane keep assist. 18,700 miles for $24k

Yeah, that's a '76 Dodge Coronet Bro-ham...

We’re looking at most brands. Only Nissan/Infiniti, Hyundai/Kia (not Genesis), and Mitsubishi are under general veto.

Well they gave me a twunny twunny Equinox 2LT with the big block engine. Red metallic. I was SHOCKED, I tell you, with the smooth idle until I realized it wasn't running atall. Damn start/stop. LOL