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It is HILARIOUS that you can get so easily confused by names. It's just like when you think the 3.6 liter GM makes today is the same as the 3.6 liter they made in my 2004 CTS simply because they have the same displacement (SMK - "Oh, that's such an old engine, they've been building it since 2004") even though they are not at all related or interchangeable. You've done the same thing here and that chart is drastically oversimplified. The Porsche family owned the old Porsche AG. They changed the name to Porsche SE and spun off the manufacturing business to a new Porsche AG. Of which they hold controlling interest. Porsche SE then bought a controlling interest in Volkswagen AG and simultaneously sold Porsche AG to VW AG. VW AG also owns Audi AG. Audi AG owns the Audi brand, Audi Sport GmbH (the RS cars, and curiously a separate company from Audi AG), Automobile Lamborghini SPA, and SEAT SA, each as their own companies, not divisions like the way GM and Ford are set up. However, VW AG has an operating agreement with its own subsidiary Audi AG to co-run SEAT SA. Lamborghini SPA is the sole owner of Ducati SPA even thought Uncle VW put up the cash for them. Audi Sport GmbH is the sole owner of Volkswagen R GmbH... meaning that Porsche SE owns VW AG owns Audi AG owns Audi Sport GmbH owns VW R GmbH. VW AG also owns: Bentley Ltd. 100% Volkswagen of France who in turn owns Bugatti S.A.S TRATON SE (Formerly VW Truck and Bus) which owns MAN SE and Scania AB Skoda Auto S.A.S If it seems like a shell game. It is. All of these separate companies sell time, engineering, materials, and cars to each other as if they are separate companies. For example, if you buy an RS Audi, the body and most parts are built by Audi AG, which then sells the shell to Audi Sport GmbH which adds its own parts to complete the car, then the car is sold to one of the many Audi regional holding groups to sell the car to the dealerships. If you get a VW R model, the shell is built by VW, sold to VW R (who is owned by Audi Sport GmbH who is owned by Audi AG who is owned by VW AG). VW R fits the sporty bits, and then sells the car to one of the regional VW distribution companies. Sometime when I have more time I want to try and build a flow chart of who owns who in this crazy family tree. VW Group has to be the largest employer of tax accountants in the EU.

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Wishing you two the very best, Dave! - - - - - Looks like Oregon didn’t ‘summerize’ their power cables! ?

I was a longtime Porsche fan, even after VW ownership (and that is exactly what it was, in the end) but they are just ridiculous high for all the wrong reasons, even with being great driving machines. I miss my dads "undercover VW" '74 914. That had the old VW flat four with fuel injection. My dad swapped out the fuel injectors for a couple of twin barrel Webers, that ran great for about a month before the backfiring problems started and ruined everything lol. Such a fun little car that I only got to ride in, as my dad was not about to let his 16 year old son drive his baby, especially after that same son got a speeding ticket in an '81 Chevette (yes, it is possible to get one in a Chevette).

Unfortunately, their EV fleet either looks like complete garbage or they've been extremely underwhelming. 0-60 slower than a three model year older Tesla and less than 200 miles of range?!?! That's worse than what Ford offers. I'm not sure why anybody would leave Tesla for an equally expensive yet underwhelming EQC, whenever it may finally come here, after its delays.

Mach-E only has like 3-4 months of sales performance out there, give it some more time. Tesla is 18 years old. Tesla "didn't happen" in 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 or even really in 2012, 2013. How old is the Mach-E again? Young buyers aren't buyers. Model 3 buyers' average age is a whopping 46.

Seattle heat wave and my crazy day due to some things that failed due to the heat had me laughing when I saw this. Remembering the 90's Guess all those kids grew up with a warped sense of humor. Too Funny!

Ya: pre-tax. You are tipping on what the restaurant provided, not on the tax that goes to Gov't.

As a cancer survivor and my wife also a cancer survivor, you and your wife are in our thoughts, wishing you both all the best. I believe she can and will survive this with your strength there to keep her moving forward. Some people say pre-tax, the amount is so small that I just do it based on the sales tax here which is 10%, so I double it if the service deserves it, pay equal to the sales tax if service is ok, but needs work and pay 5% if service needs serious help and I usually say something. My wife and I worked our way through college in the restaurant industry and I know how little they pay, so I feel tipping is important, but only based on the quality of the service.

Dave, I hope everything goes well for all of you. - - - - - Question on restaurant tipping. Do you tip on the pre-tax or after-tax tab? What is considered correct?

Right, it is amazing the eco box's that can still get you into trouble with speeding tickets compared to performance auto's. I actually got more tickets in my 69 Ford F250 Camper special than any other auto I owned.

Maybe they shouldn't have half-@ssed a product from the get-go. They pulled a Ford Focus Electric.

Except you’re wrong.

Who cares that Mercedes outsold Tesla, they should as they have a bigger portfolio of products compared to Tesla and using the same platform for so many various models should have it paid for so higher profits. COMMON SENSE! Cybertruck will sell in LIMITED numbers as people will find much better options from other OEMs. Tesla had their days and a complete recall of EVERYTHING they made in China that affects all china sold auto's and those shipped to Europe will hurt Tesla more than help them. On top of this, my 34 year old son, works for Amazon on their cloud based products and wants an EV, thinks Tesla suck as being over priced for what you get and the interiors stink. They appeal to minimalists mostly and even those such as my neighbor who was looking at getting a tesla, now after seeing the Mach-e stopped those plans and is re-thinking what he wants with so many options coming to market later this year and next. 34 is young, a man who is not afraid to pay 50 to 75K for an auto and wants an SUV BEV find Tesla to be over rated. He is interested in Rivian and is excited to see what Jeep brings out as he loves his Rhino colored Jeep GC. As such, I think Tesla is in for some big challenges and issues. The other thing is Alex does like what Lincoln is putting out and as such says he can drive his jeep a few more years as it is low mileage 2017 that he bought and wait to see what Lincoln brings to market along with others. I honestly think many people are going to hold off on buying new CPO or true new auto's as they wait for BEVs to come to market. Those that have to buy an auto will, but I think the next few years are going to be interesting.

46 is the ABA of the Model 3. Tesla as a brand's ABA is 54.

46 is a low average buyer age for a premium brand, lower probably than any luxury brand is.

• 3-4 years ago is 14 YEARS into Tesla's existence. • Model S may be a luxury model, the Model 3 & Y are not. Model S gained some market share in its price tier, granted. Of course, the Model 3 has significantly cannibalized the Model S's sales since, which is why Musk combined the sedan & CUV's sales numbers together; to mask the fall. • 46 is only a few years younger than most other brands. It's not grabbing "young" buyers. Across ALL segments, buyers 24 & younger make up less than 1% of new vehicle purchases. Jeep outguns Tesla in buyers aged 25-54 : 55% to 45%. Plus, BE vehicles post the highest percentage of 65+ aged buyers, at 32%.

That still isn’t “young” by any stretch of the imagination and this is from a 48 year old.

Or do younger buyers not care about burled walnut wood trim, supple leather and lambs wool rugs, and all the stuff you find in a Rolls-Royce or a 90s Jaguar? Tesla with their let's call it mediocre interior, with a 4 model line up is still outselling Mercedes, Lexus, BMW, Audi, etc. Brands with great names, long histories (except for Lexus) much better interiors than Tesla. Maybe upscale isn't in wood and leather, and it is in tech, lifestyle, sustainable material seats made from recycled plastic, etc. I am not saying it is, but Tesla has appeal with consumers, even with a worse interior than any rival. The problem is more how do you predict today what the market will want in 2025 and how to you capture that volume that Tesla is seeing.

But they're NOT choosing Tesla for the interiors. Hence my post. Tesla doesn't seem to have the ability or desire to put a luxury interior into their products, and in an industry era where just about everything has moved upscale. That's going to fester into a very tangible problem.

Would be nice, but never going to happen...it seems like we are just about at the end of the road for new ICE development...

If kids were honest....

How I feel about a few of the folks that troll here...

You can count me as one of the folks that did not think Porsche would survive even with VW taking them over. SUVs is what saved them and the cars for the much fewer car lovers out there. Ford FINALLY has a CEO and a leadership team that realizes that Lincoln Luxury DOES NOT have to be GERMAN copy to survive or succeed. We can have Tight enjoyable to drive American Auto's that also still have a proper plush American seating condition rather than the over rated hard as rock German seating design and engineered auto's.

Proud 39yrs

Hoping the wife’s chemo will start next week. Just wanted to update you guys, not sure if I will be on much this week…..

Just hit 108 at my house in the shade.