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I would want for Cadillac to use this engine myself. Unfortunately, clueless luxury buyers require DOHC V8s for their purchases. So Cadillac has to do that. The Northstar V8 was well accepted by this crowd, so Cadillac should have never left that behind. However, I dont know how I wanna feel about this for Corvette. I do understand, maybe, the push for DOHC for the Vette. Does it have to do with CAFE and getting a better carbon footprint? Or something like that? Whatever it may be...The pushrod Chevy small block is THE greatest V8 of our times, and BECAUSE it is compact, I would assume that a rear mid-engined Corvette could benefit EVEN more from using it even MORE than a front mid-engined Vette does... I have NEVER heard anything negative about a pushrod V8 being in the Corvette, so I am a tad on the fence with that...

Me too. I dont do car GPS. (The Acura's is shyte anyway.) I do Google Maps whether on Google Earth or on Google Maps and get directions that way and see for myself what route is better for me at home. If the destination is far, like an out of city or province destination, I will print the directions at home and drive...the old fashion way and observe what is going. The print out is like having an old fashioned map. If the location is complicated...I will use Google Street View at home before leaving and get a visual of what the destination travel looks like before hand. I too, studied all kinds of road maps that belonged to my dad. I also had a globe growing up that I studied and learned all the countries and the United States and where are they in the world from that globe.

I do EXACTLY the same thing!!!

I know the conversation of this has long since past...(we are now into where to find in sources if a vehicle is RWD or FWD or AWD and if that source is credible or not...) But as with everything...marketing brainwashing bullshyte is what EVERYBODY relies on for information accuracy nowadays as it seems. You will call it "commodity appliance with premium aspirations...nothing of significance..." As will I. But...marketing brainwashing bullshyters will call that "entry level luxury". And the sheeple or fake Gucci crowd will buy into that phrase in more ways than one... Most people dont care or dont even know FWD/RWD/AWD and the hole in their ass... This turn of events happened, I would guess around the late 70s or mid 1980s when Detroit downsized even further and went full-on FWD... There was a time when after the FWD/RWD debacle died down....the marketing brainwashing bullshyters went to displacement per horsepower and all the rage was exactly that...DOHC versus pushrods... But now...even that does not seem to be of any knowledge of the sheeple... Now...admittedly...the soupe du jour is electric versus dinosaur juice for energy source and with that comes the debacle of autonomous pods versus well...the automobile we all love as we know it...

Like I said in the funny post above...(well, it was funny to me anyhow...) Wiki works excellently well for what it is. Its free on the internet and no advertisements make it lean one way or the other. A troll just cant change info on Wiki just because he can because he cant. There is a "google" amount of information on wikipedia rivaling Google itself. There is also an Encyclopedia Britannica amount of information at Wikipedia too, albeit not as precise I gather. But then again...Encyclopedia Britannica may not be without bias... So...Wiki has its place on the internet in 2017 and going forward...

There's a lot of long words there Mr. Balthazar. Im not but a humble restauranteur. Ahhhhh....now I understand what was meant! I too...question Wikipedia...but I do use it...a lot...but as a guideline rather than concrete information. Wiki has its place. Its accurate enough when one knows where to get better more accurate information from and just uses Wiki to guide him in the right direction.

I dint know how to feel about this. I liked the 1st gen a lot. The 2nd gen not so much but I still thought highly of it. Its a shame for it to go away. At least the RS6 with V8 motorvation is a thing.

You made me jealous. Your description made me want to see for myself what the devil you just drove. But unfortunately where I live...for the last 2 days, snow and freezing rain is the reality so I cant get myself to visualize it... Thank the Lord for Youtube though! Thanx Frisky for making today a tad warmer for me! Awesome read!!!

If Im not mistaken...on the TLX, precision all wheel steering is for FWD models only while the SH-AWD system is their top dog trim that is a vectoring torque all wheel drive system. Both are not offered together. In other words, the FWD TLX has P-AWS and the SH-AWD TLX is just that...SH-AWD. No 4 wheel steering... I would assume that SH-AWD will be offered on the RDX as its a CUV. The RLX has it. The TLX has it. As does the NSX. It makes sense for a CUV to have AWD...duh! And since Acura has done torque vectoring well, its only logic that their brand new CUV offering will have it. P-AWS is new to Acura. Not so much new to the Honda Motor Company as a Honda Prelude had it many moons ago. As of now, only the TLX has P-AWS. Maybe the CUV called the RDX will get it too.

I would believe so. SH-AWD is kinda their thing now. It has become synonymous with Acura the way VTEC was back in the day. The real question would be if the RDX gets the other acronym that Acura is working on...P-AWS. Precision all wheel steering.

Yes. And the Escort MK whatever that was also hot rodded by Cosworth along with the Ford GT40 are still revered by Europeans. But all we both did was mention Ford of Europe cars. Ford. What you said is true that American cars that were Eurocentric were respected by the Europeans in general, the thing with that is, even Corvettes were blasted by them. I find Ford does much better than GM does in terms of respectability in Europe. The C5R raced and won and yet only then were the wheels SLOWLY turning for respectability. The C6R came and even then, some blasted it for being cheap. Talking about not wanted to let go some of the unwarranted stereotypes. The French LOVE the Corvette. I guess the wheels of respectability for the Corvette starts in French and goes from there. The French also loved the Vipers racing. I will not talk about Cadillac in Europe with the STS as that was a fail for obvious reasons. The reasons you stated. Too big for European roads in general and not in the least fuel efficient or compliant for displacement taxes European countries impose. A 4.6 liter V8 might be a small V8 by American standards, but 4.6 liters is HUGE displacement for Europe even today, never you mind what it was in the 1990s. So while there was and still is reasons to hate on GM in Europe, sometimes the hatred is unwarranted. Harsh criticisms sometimes could be too harsh. The STS was not a bad vehicle. But the way Europeans blasted it, you would think it was the worst thing ever. Yet quality and reliability of Mercedes Benz cars of the 1990s and Jaguars were not exactly um....stellar. The STS problem for Europe was that it was too big of a car for Europe...not that it wasnt reliable...(OK...Northstar V8 gasket leaks were a big enough deterrent...but M-B and Jaguar were just as self-destructive...but Europeans loved those unconditionally...) Which leads us to another discussion. Why did Americans dump on American cars while Europeans will NEVER dump on their own industry. Germans will dump on French cars, but will never do the same for German cars. The French will dump on German cars, but will never do that for their industry...

Sure... I agree with that 1000% Problem is... I view professional athletes in the same manner. But you know what this particular fella did in the 5th inning Game 3 of the 1932 World Series after he arrogantly signaled his next shot? Or this fella? Back to the business world Steve Jobs was also an arrogant piece of shi...work. But he also disrupted the status quo time and time again with revolutionary stuff that altered the course of human history. He talked the talk...but he also walked the walk. Gets fired from his own company because of his arrogance... Preps up this company And then finds himself being begged to come back to his former company and does this With the last two products....he was laughed at by the whole world. He said that PCs...the machine he helped bring to life and into every 1st world home across the world, that PCs will be replaced by tablets... He famously said this By borrowing a similar phrase said by another arrogant man...from the automobile industry. Henry Ford. But 100 plus years later and Henry's company is still alive and kicking... These new tech gurus...including Elon Musk...just spew some words and they think that magically those words will come to life... At least with Elon...Tesla is alive...kicking to stay above water...but non-the less still alive. These modern tech gurus are less than Babe Ruth, but more like Casey in Mudville.

When did Europeans ever say anything nice about GM? For those Europeans in Europe that actually knew about GM, they ALWAYS had something negative to say about GM. Including GM's heydays of the 1960s and 1970s... and during those times, the majority of European cars were not so good....oh the irony!!! When European cars got better and GM cars got worse...the negative comments got intensified. Because now...even the folk that did NOT know of GM were now all of a sudden experts on GM cars... Ill tell you...with great confidence but admittedly an assumption, but I will stand by my statement 1000%... BEFORE the 2009 meltdown and GM's world recognition of going bankrupt and the US (and Canadian) government bailing them out...MOST Europeans did NOT know that Opel was GM owned. And in fact....MOST Americans did NOT know that either. In fact...to THIS day...many Americans think the J-Platform car was solely an American car offering, Cavalier, Sunbird, Firenza, Cimarron... In fact...to this day...many Americans think that the Chevy Monza and Vega and all other GM variants were soley American offerings... In fact...many Europeans praised these Opel variants of those cars on those platforms...but stupidly...had negative things to say about GM... That English buffoon Jeremy Clarkson hated the Opel Vectra...only because he knew it was a GM product... Yet...the many Greek friends I knew in Greece in the 1990s all LOVED the Vectra...had some negative shyte to say about GM at that time....yet were OBLIVIOUS to the fact that the Vectra...was a GM product...

Dont get me wrong. I want to EV start-up companies to succeed. Especially American ones... Tesla, Faraday...Thor. Its the arrogance that I cannot stomach. I now see clearly why Elon is hated by some. I see the shenanigans. I see where Tesla falters. Balthy, Drew and yourself and even Ocnblu has given me insight and I have taken in that knowledge regarding EVs. (and other aspects of the car world) I still hold Tesla to a high regard, but I dont naively believe that they are without faults as I once believed BEFORE being a member of this website... which is a couple of years now. (with much chagrin to some of you...) EVs... with me...it is an agenda and a hidden bias as to why I want them to be the future. Unlike certain parts of North America (Alberta or Texas for example), Quebec (where I live) has a tremendous amount of potential to benefit from the electric vehicle. Quebec is the second largest (China being the first) producer of hydro-electric power. Its a Provincially owned entity. The Province of Quebec stands to make a lot of money from EVs. That is good for the province and in turn good for Canada. And because Quebec will forever be the red-headed, troubled step-child in Canadian politics, this will only strengthen the ties between the French and the English. To the chagrin of Albertans who may feel as their oil is being ignored...but... Alberta has as many lakes and rivers as Quebec does...maybe they should focus on that instead of trying to extract oil fragments from sand... Thor... Its good that Thor will be giving Walmart and Pepsi and UPS and Anheuser-Busch another option if Tesla fails on their promise to deliver. Like you said...Ford and Leland and David Dunbar and Ransom Eli and the Dodge Brothers and Walther P. and Durant all over again...

MISCONCEPTIONS GALORE.... Carl Benz...SOLD (one aspect of the misconception part) the first INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE (the second aspect) car. https://www.daimler.com/company/tradition/company-history/1885-1886.html There were MANY MANY other "automobiles" that were running around in Europe and in the United States of America waaaaay before 1886. Those automobiles were powered by STEAM engines and ELECTRIC motors... The first GASOLINE powered automobile was sold by Benz... Not that Benz INVENTED the automobile... 2 different things entirely...

Tech-Mogul companies in California want to act as if touch screens and multi-display screens and computers were invented in the late 1990s and early 2000s... Yet Detroit saw this future way back in the mid 1980s... And although Steve Jobs and other tech gurus were one of the reasons for this in the 1980s and 'twas these guys that started this technological revolution and they decided upon Silicon Valley to start their headquarters to spear what we got now in 2017... Many dont realize that Detroit...even as battered that it was in the 1980s and even more so now...its still a city that has had 100 years of innovation...and that was 100 years in the 1980s...we are now in 2017...we could add another 30 years to that number... Silicon Valley has a long ways to go... What does that have to do with Thor? Production. Automobile production. Mass production of said automobile. Good luck to you...you are gonna need it!!!

Thanx for the additional information. I usually do read a link and I especially read a link before commenting. In this case though, semi-trucks are not usually of my interest so I went ahead and assumed some stuff and commented anyway. Los Angeles...Silicon Valley. NoCal and SoCal. OK...I see where I erred and it bit me in the butt. I read it quickly and glanced ove the Los Angeles part. But would I be wrong in assuming that even SoCal entities are living very much in a dream world as compared to the rest of the planet? I mean...Los Angeles is nick-named LA LA Land. Holyweird (especially now when the bloody place is imploding with all that #metoo stuff going on...) is in LA LA Land... This is why I glanced over the L.A. part and just painted the people of California with the same brush. OK...what I just wrote is another pile of dog poo....but is it really? Thor... Norse God of thunder and lightning. So I get why the name. Thor... This paragraph did not sit well with me. 1. Mentioning Ford and GM... Ford and GM have not made class 8 trucks in several decades....if ever... I know GM made military trucks that might or could be classified as class 8 trucks...but I dont think GM is in that game anymore. So why even mention Ford or GM? To announce their superiority over Detroit? THAT is why I mentioned Silicon Valley viewing Detroit as dinosaurs... Yet Detroit was, is and continues to be AMERICAS HUB for mass production. Detroit was the home for the first mass produced automobiles and Detroit continues to be the forefront of mass production technology in the US... GM and Ford DO have the money, technology, know-how and FACILITIES to BETTER mass produce shyte...on time, on schedule, with minimal quality issues that if any, could and would be corrected IMMEDIATELY to offer the WORLD a very competent product. Ford and GM have the skills and manpower to do it. NO....NO START-UP COULD challenge GM or Ford in THAT regard... The other part of that paragraph that made me cringe is the tech-mogul stuff Other than Tesla...and they are in production hell....and EVEN THEY GOT HELP FROM DETROIT TO HELP THEM GET STARTED IN MASS PRODUCTION with the Model S...there is NO OTHER TECH-MOGUL company that PRODUCES AUTOMOBILES... Tech-Mogul companies in California....mass produce little electronic gimmick devices...in CHINA... GM and Ford...have produced radios and dash board electronics for their cars a longer period of time than before there was a Silicon Valley in the first place. And sure...DELCO was a company that GM bought to produce these radios for them...it goes to show you how arrogant California based companies could be regarding how much tech Detroit really has under its belt... And so...this rant has NOTHING to do with Tesla or Thor.... It just shows you how I feel about certain EV start-ups that are based in California... Faraday Future...also based in Los Angeles...they arent doing so hot as of now either... So...like I said... Tesla...at least has more or less SUCCESSFULLY designed , produced and sold 3 models albeit with a few teething problems in the beginning but now those hiccups are more or less resolved. Roadster, Model S and Model X They are now on their 4rth with the Model 3...yes. Production hell. Tesla probably will find a solution for that. If not....they wont see the light of day to get the semi-truck on line... Thor.... Its a wait and see moment for me. Kinda like Faraday and its...um...future.

Sure. But there will come a time when Tesla will figure it out. Perhaps never...but if they never figure it out, that will spell the end of their existence. If the Model 3 never comes out of production hell, then Tesla goes will cease to exist ending their bid for semi-trucks in the process as well...and Pepsi and Wallmart could kiss their deposits good-bye...because I have a feeling, Tesla will NOT refund those. Those deposits that were made for the trucks were to line Tesla's coffers so they could continue to burn through billions of dollars... Thor...whose to say that they wont see production hell as well? Thor is based in California? Silicon Valley? Yeah...as if Silicon Valley idiots know about mass production of goods. They shun Detroit because they see Detroit as dinosaurs and the electronic toys they do create, well, their facilities to produce are in China....slave labour... So...I dont have much faith in Thor either.

Function over form and I fully understand that...but I find both Tesla and Thor trucks very ugly. So...Im not a fan for either truck regarding looks. Im not a trucker, so I dont know what is more better, comfortable, useful for them. Side by side seating versus center seat central with 2 rear seats after that. Ill go with function over form with that as well and listen to a trucker or two for their input as to what they prefer on that issue. Regarding the performance specs. Ill just wait and see when indeed the real trucks come out and are tested in reality to form an opinion on that. And on that bombshell...Ill answer the question that was asked. Which company will produce and be ready to deliver first? Thor is a brand new company? Another start up? At least Tesla HAS mass produced some models so far even though the Model 3 is still stuck in hell. I think Im gonna sit this one out coach...I have no answer. The odds...could go either way...

The logo... Looks like a pissed off version of Tesla's logo. A Tesla logo that uses the Dark side of the force.

Yikes... That generation of Bimmers has GOT to be the nicest...its when they had their A-game in style and in mojo. I dont wanna know what generation of Bimmers you find nice as I probably would want to puke as soon as you reveal to me what those are. I could handle a couple of 1980s Bimmers. There are plenty from the 1990s that I like. But Bimmers from the 1970s and Bimmers from 2000s-2017....NO THANK-YOU!!! (M6 Grand Sport has got to be the sole exemption) (maybe another model that Im certainly forgetting...ah yes...the 1M of a couple of years back and the M2 that followed it)

I literally can do anything...Im GOD! Bitterness is sweet!

I want Camaro to continue being what it is. A V8 muscle (pony) car. Yeah yeah...a Camaro is nowhere near being the classic muscle car it once was as now its a world class 2+2 sports car handling twisties and accelerating like mad and being basically a world class performer. Its still a big V8 brute though... With that being said, how the Camaro evolved into this new persona since its resurrection is how it should re-define itself moving forward into the future by also being a Tesla roadster fighter...with both convertible and coupe EV offerings. Eventually the V8 will be gone... Im not saying this transformation (pun intended: Bumblebee robot transformer and electrical transformer...) Im not saying this transformation should be done tomorrow...but sometime in the next decade. In the meantime, hybridization should be introduced shortly.

One of the few Bimmers I love. I really really love this car!!! But...under the hood of a Chevy SS lies an LS engine. One of my favorites of V8 engines during these modern times....No need to do an LS swap on it as it already adorns one... Unlike what these poor bastards did to their E39 Bimmers... Plus I get magnetic shocks and stuff with a very nice luxurious interior worthy of a high end Bimmer anyway with the Chevy SS... So...If Im to choose, Id choose the Chevy SS. Or...maybe Id do a Pontiac G8 Firehawk instead.

I just realized I did the same thing... X...J220 If a Camaro does indeed get an inline 6 sometime in the future... IF is all Im saying.... What a strange turn of events it would be... I think there is more of a chance it get the Bolt battery technology and powetrain, but that would be for another conversation elsewhere in this website...