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Im more pissed about the center touch screen being the all central control center for everything rather than the lack of FM radio or even bluetooth. I could go around the lack of FM and bluetooth. iCloud and USB key music library could hold me over... And while driving while talking on the phone is dangerous and garners you a ticket...it aint less dangerous using bluetooth...its just legal lethality...but one could still use his phone...not recommended...but hey...not saying I will be doing this...I dont even use bluetooth phone connectivity and I dont talk and drive NOW....alls Im saying is...an individual other than myself could still use his actual phone while driving... So...for me...it is ALREADY a deal breaker for making the center touch screen the center control panel that controls virtually everything with no other physical buttons doing the simple things... GM announced 20 new alternate fuel models including 2 new EVs...GM wont be the only ones either... If Tesla dont fix this idiocy...Tesla wont be getting my money...

I always enjoyed Tom Petty's voice! Ill miss him! RIP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aowSGxim_O8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lWJXDG2i0A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5BJXwNeKsQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvlTJrNJ5lA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1D3a5eDJIs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0JvF9vpqx8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFnOfpIJL0M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMVjToYOjbM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TlBTPITo1I And the Superbowl half-time show a-whiles back this millennium... Good times I had with your music spanning from the early 1980s to the early 1990s! Thanks!

^^^ I shed a tear! (For Tom Petty)

Yup...and the manufacturer is giving you an arbitrary value for the car at the end of the leasing term...for you and for the manufacturer's benefit. And in essence...the manufacturer dictates somewhat the value of its used cars somewhat...and THAT is why I say biased and marketed bullshyte resale value... And in turn, this could hamper or help the value and perception of its new cars... Which is why many view Mercedes and BMW going down a worm hole with their leases, their focus on going down market and the sheer amount of useless models in non-existent niches...

The flip side to that would be people who buy a car and drive it to the ground that no matter what car it is...resale value is 50 bucks because the damned thing is 15-16-17 years old and rusted to hell. The heater dont work. The tires are all bald. The tail light plastics are broken, there are all kinds of battle scars on it, and the car has traveled the equivalent of 3 times the earth. Then there are people like me who amortize the car purchase properly. I utilized it long enough and is ready to part with it and I effectively become like those CEO's and pro athletes and lawyers you are talking about with their S Classes but with Oldsmobile Aleros and Impala SSs and Ford Fusions and Acura TLs. I also corrected financial mistakes with Ford Edges and downsizing to Mazda 3s while paying no attention to resale value. Just using the tried and true formula of amortization and the looking yourself in the mirror and cutting your loses technique because for 99% of the time, my wife and I make sound financial decisions anyway rather than making a car buying decision on a BIASED marketed term as resale value... BIASED marketed term because in a wintery area where I come from, when you daily drive even the North American avg. of 20 000 miles a year, wear and tear on the car accelerates where freezing temperatures screw with your car, salt and little stones for the ice rust and ding your car, pot holes damage your car and you are always repairing the ball joints and suspensions because said pot holes are unavoidable therefore even after 8-9-10 years of daily driving your car in this kind of environment, no matter if Mercedes or Hyundai, your car in 10 years is WORTHLESS in Quebec...OK...a general scrap yard price of 250-500 bucks for the parts!!!

And I would agree to that about the Escala! But I do like the Model S looks. I dont think the Model S is anything special though. And I could see as to why many think it aint good looking. Although I did put DFELT on the spot for him saying the Model S is a jelly bean... I will agree that Teslas...all of them...are devoid in character. The 1974 Matador coupe had character. It was ugly, but it had character. The Karma Fisker would also be orgasm inducing had it had the Tesla powertrain in it! Or a 1970 Olds442 restomodded and pro-toured to accommodate such a powertrain!!!

PS: I dont care what you think about what I think about a 1974 Matador. I WILL ALWAYS HATE THE WAY IT LOOKS!!! BUT....if the 1974 Matador was a good quality car and NOT an unreliable POS like it really was... Unlike you...I possess enough maturity and enough SELF CONFIDENCE to ADMIT that it was a GOOD CAR DESPITE ME HATING IT!!! Ive done THAT many times with BMWs!!!

The problem with your argument is this though: finding something unattractive is subjective. Bullshyting your way through facts is...NOT! https://www.electrical4u.com/working-principle-of-three-phase-induction-motor/ The merits (and faults) of a Tesla Model S in it being propelled by two 3 phase induction motors is one thing...hating the way it looks is another... Also...not liking cars being propelled by said 3 phase induction motors for whatever reasons is one thing...bullshyting the facts of a 3 phase induction motor so you feel better about your choices in life is another...

@ocnblu DREW explained for me by explaining it for himself why I behaved the way I did! Just read what Drew said...then go back and read what I said! Ya know... You dont have to like EVs...NOBODY is telling you to like EVs... You dont have to ACCEPT EVs either...NOBODY is telling you to accept them or buy them or ride in them or look at them... But at least grow the phoque up... Ya know... admitting to their advantages over ICE is NOT admittance of you liking or accepting them! Ya know! You sound even dumber than you really are when you try to spew and exaggerate the lies you wanna believe about EVs... No amount of downvotes on my posts will change REALITY!!! So downvote away...Ill continue to be aggressive this way in sticking it you!!! Call it man-o-pause...call it me getting my panties in a knot...and downvote this post away! quodque initium novum alio initio finito evenit

So @ocnblu You think that induction motors are NOT tough motors capable of repeated drag racing? You think that induction motors are less capable? And you think that I shouldnt express my displeasure over such stupid thought processes, even though in high school all over the world, students learn about Nicolas' little secret and in this forum, we have grown adults spewing stupidity? So...you would rather I accept such idiocy and lunacy and not say a word and just let you folk continue to spew such uneducated drivel? I gotcha! With that down vote...I understand where your intellect resides!

Here is my list of ugliness. But it will be with cars that I have actually seen and touched and experienced. A Ford Edsel for instance, wont be on my list as I never saw one in person. I will also stay away from crossovers like a Pontiac Aztec/Buick Rendez Vous or Tesla Model X or Acura MDX and ZDX...too easy to fill up the list... And the list: BMWs 3 and 5 Series GT I actually like the Honda Crosstour. Weird how that is... AMC Matador sedan. Id rather both BMW GTs than this hideous thing. That is how ugly I think this POS is!!! AMC Matador coupe. Pictures actually do this car a huuuuuuuge favor as the pictures hide how truly this car was misproportioned and awkward. Worse than say a Gremlin or Pacer. I remember as a young kid looking at these and almost crying in horror! When I visited in Greece in the 1970s, I used to see these all the time. A Romanian car called the Dacia 1300. Which in reality was a Renault 12. I got to see the Dacia versions. and its El Camino brother 1990s Buick Skylark. I LOVED the Pontiac Grand Am GT version, but man-oh-man this version was disgusting! Life cant get any more depressing for you if you are driving a shyte brown 1984-1985 Ford Tempo In hindsight, I dont know if Im being too harsh on the Ford Sierra/Merkur ΧR--- something or other---but back in the 1980s...I thought this was the most hideous thing on wheels. I preferred the Tempo... I know this is a cult classic. And I LOVE me some FRENCH cars...so eccentric styling all in the name for Art Deco I can understand and appreciate. But this Swedish entry I will NEVER LIKE and I will ALWAYS think its UGLY!

The issue I had was when you mentioned a 2001 Honda Odyssey trying to use THAT as a reliable Honda product trying to dismiss Chrysler... WRONG Honda product is alls Im sayin' to prove that point!

Regardless, resale value is for sheeple... I dont buy cars in hopes when my car is 10 years old Ill possibly get 100 bucks more. Admittedly that Honda V6 automatics of that era is shyte...what resale do YOU wanna talk about? You said it yourself.... I wont! So...that makes that era of Hondas...with me at least...less than ZERO!!! So...where does Chrysler fit in on this then when on agreement, Honda aint perfect and their cars are prone to failure too?

^^^ THAT response is more realistic and down to earth!

Yeah...I own a Honda product...they are pretty effing reliable... Problem is...The MAJORITY of V6 AUTOMATIC transmissioned Honda products in that era that existed in 1999, 2001, 2002 all the way to what? 2005-2006? erhad HUUUGE deficiencies. CATASTROPHIC failures of the expensive kind... I really dont care for the few and far between outliers...

The reason why I refuse to suggest is exactly how the Caravan Hybrid thread has gone down. One dude has never had problems with ΧYZ car, while the other guy had nothing but problems with XΥΖ car while the another guy swears he will never buy from XYZ's brand ever again because his entire family tree thousands of years before ALWAYS had problems with that manufacturer while another dude's entire family's heritage NEVER had any issues... Who. To. Believe?

So...all this anecdotal evidence...including a Jalopnik article... Who do we believe? Who do we believe? Who. Do. We. Believe. To try to win an internet discussion in trying to outsmart one another to try to convince one another that Honda's transmissions of this era dont self destruct... And we even have an admittance of a failed transmission...but at the time of when a car dies of old age anyway... Jalopnik's article goes a step further in admitting there was transmission problems...but NOT WITH THIS van... Wink Wink... Un. Belieeeee. Vaaaa-bull!

I am never good with suggestions and sometimes I simply refuse to suggest. Anyway...I thought about 2 GM cars that were not mentioned that maybe worth mentioning. Maybe price would be a factor for denying these? Buick Regal 2.0T AWD Cadillac ATS 2.0T AWD Both are smallish cars...and stylish. I would agree with Drew's Encore and CCAP's Fusion AWD suggestions I will add another suggestion. A FoMoCo product. Escape 2.0T AWD.

@smk4565 Did his automatic transmission fail in his Odyssey? Did he have ball joint problems? (that could be only a Quebec thing or any other place where pot holes are a problem) Because if you say yes to either of those things, especially the first one...and then it becomes hard for me to believe these words from you: Anecdotal: Ive had many acquaintances that had automatic transmissions fail in their Odysseys, Accords, TLs and CLs of that time period. Many of those people changed that transmission twice. Also...those same autos also had ball joint problems...but so does other makes...pot holes in Quebec resemble mini Yucatan craters in the Spring time.

Like Frisky. I find it pretty attractive. Its a compact car to be sold to family types. It has always been a boring styled car. But this is a segment where most of the market wants boring looks. At least with this model, Hyundai let go with the ugliness and at least it styled this new one with good looks. Yuck! It OK... I guess. No really. It aint that bad! Yikes! My poor eyes! A lot better, but no super model! And about this saying...vanilla styling... I dont know how this started, but vanilla (flavour) is ANYTHING but boring. Vanilla actually has a pretty rich and powerful flavour AND aroma. It spices up pretty much ANY kind of sweet drink or dessert to what otherwise would be bland without it! So...Ive decided to make a stand and NEVER use the term vanilla when trying to describe boring...

Just PM me!

C'est en Français. C'est génial! Ici au Québec, on laisse tomber les tuiles!!! Translation..in Québec, we just let the tiles fall off and NEVER replace them!!! Ville-Marie tunnel Louis-Hyppolite Lafontaine Tunnel Although the Ville-Marie tunnel has gone through a major renovation and is still on going...that video was from 2011...the tunnel aint as bad now. The Lafontaine tunnel is still this shyte but will go under a great renovation soon. But it wont be for another 20-30 years before both will undergo some sort of repairs... OK...I am being bullish...they do do repair work often...but it really takes for the tunnels to be that dangerous before being repaired. That would be Switzerland, Belgium? Wow! Impeccable tunnel!

I forgot to mention. The food is cooked right in front of the customer. It is an open kitchen. Actually, their is a small counter dividing the customer and the line- cook. On the one side of that counter...on the kitchen side... is where we have the condiment tables where the customer sees his food and talks to the cook and tells him what he wants and the sink where we dump our fries and another sink where we wash our hands...and on the wall on the opposite side is where the fryers are and grill and steamers are...so the customer actually sees his own food being cooked...live and direct! The line-cook's back is facing the customer but he is face to face when he is dressing his food. And everybody hears everyone's conversations. Its intimate. But its cool!

I got goose bumps reading about your family's business endeavors, Drew! That is how America became great! That great American ingenuity to take something and make it better and the natural entrepreneurial skills they possess which drives them to be self made! Im the first in my family to be an entrepreneur. From my mom's side...all farmers farming their own land and using the barter system with their fellow villagers(islanders) to help feed each other. My grand-dad had olive trees and almond trees and plenty of chickens. With that he supplied the village with olives and olive oil and eggs and he bartered that for milk and bread and feta cheese. On occasion a chicken or two would be bartered for a fish or two. During tough times, the village would just help each other out and nobody would starve. My dad's parents...I really dont know what they did in Greece, but they did come to Canada when they were fairly young...which was the late 1890s. My grand-dad was in the Greek Navy and when his tour of duty ended (all Greek boys have to serve in the military) he had the chance to immigrate to North America. He chose Canada with his soon to be bride (my grand-ma and grand-pa were married in Montreal). I guess there is a strong military background in my dad's side of the family. My dad and his other 2 brothers fought for Canada during WW2 and my dad additionally joined the USAAF in 1950 and fought in the Korean War. Before WW2, at the age of 14 or 15, my dad worked at Canadair (Bombardier Aerospace ...yes..THAT 220% trade duty penalty Bombardier Aerospace) as a riveter to help the war cause and when he turned 17, he joined the army to fight Hitler. After the war, he stayed 1 year in the occupation of Germany and then came back to work at Canadair again only to join the USAAF. After Korea, before finally settling in Montreal, he would go back and forth from Canadair helping his brother-n-law in Boston. He would do Montreal-Boston and Boston-Montreal for about 8 years when he finally chose Montreal as his home. Something about Boston he did not like. OK...my restaurant. Its just a regular Quebec style hot dog joint. Steamed hot dogs is our specialty. Steamé (steamay) en Français. Il y aussi (there is also) des hot dogs toasté (toastay) or toasted... Steamed would be when the hot dog is cooked using steam and the bread is warmed up with steam too while toasted being when the hot dog is cooked on the grill and the bread is toasted... An all dressed hot dog in Quebec is mustard, relish onions and coleslaw (no carrots and more vinegary and bittery rather than sugary...but not so much vinegar and salt that your mouth caves in unto itself...the customer customizes his toppings. Along those hot dogs...we serve french fries. Freshly peeled and cut every day. Thick cut. Blanched onced before the final deep fry. We sell a boat load of fries in the summer as people in the neighbourhood love to BBQ but want our french fries to compliment their BBQ parties. We have a peeler and a cutter for that job. Tough work it is!!! We have hamburgers. They are small and thin...about .25 of an inch and 4 inches in diameter. But they are delivered fresh each morning except for Sundays. And each item so far is priced low so we could sell on volume. Because we want (and we have) all the workers in the neighborhood to come to us and not McDonald's or Burger King(long since closed down) who are or were right next to us. The customer dresses his burger the way he wants and likes. Same as the hotdogs. We have poutines. Gravy style sauce, cheddar style cheese curds and french fries. Very similar to this: We also have Italian poutine which is spaghetti meat sauce instead of the gravy style sauce. We have hot submarine sandwiches. Steak and pepperoni and fried onions, mushrooms and green peppers, topped with salad and tomatoes and special sauce on a toasted 12 inch baguette bread. The customer picks and chooses what he wants on it. One standard price. Makes it easy to order and speeding up the pay process. (No pepperoni...we put extra steak. No steak...we put extra pepperoni. No green peppers means no green peppers) We have smoked meat sandwiches. We buy from Lesters deli packers. The best smoked meat that isnt made in-house...like a Schwartz's deli for instance. For an extra you could add smoked meat on any thing you want to add it on. On a poutine or submarine sandwich for instance. We also do chicken burgers. And Chicken souvlaki pitas. We marinate our own chicken breast...Greek style...no secret there as Greek marinade for pork and chicken is simple and no big deal. Oil, garlic, salt, pepper, lemon juice and oregano. The chicken burger is dressed with mayo or tzatziki, salad and tomato. The pita is dressed the same although we add onions to a pita...Customer could customize it as he/she wishes...we use the same breast for both. The chicken tenders goes for the pita and when we run out of those we use the breasts. (I must say...a REAL GREEK PITA OR GYRO...THERE IS NO SALAD...STUPID QUEBECKERS WANT SALAD IN THEIR MOTHERPHOQUING PITA!!! I HATE THAT!!!) OK...I feel good now! There is no "feel good" dietary trendy shyte on the menu. No salads, no veggie burgers, no tofu crap. Its a classic greasy spoon fast food joint. Other than the french fries and the smoked meat...there really isnt any real unhealthy stuff on our menu anyway. A hot dog or two aint bad. A hamburger is not really fattening either, considering it is a smallish portioned burger. Lay off the mayo and the calories stay pretty reasonable... It is a smallish restaurant on the inside. I have seating for 55 people. Booths and stool seating areas. About 3-4 years ago we renovated and made a drive-thru window for (duh) drive-thru ordering. Like I said. This is purely a fast food restaurant so the time it takes you to order your food at the cash and by the time you pay, you food is literally ready for you to go...(if you order any hotdog, fries and hamburgers. Hence why we chose the burgers to be thin. But we also chose a bread that is not too thick so there is a perfect blend of condiments (we just dont slather up on the ketchup or any other sauce either just to say we sauced up your burger good!!!), bread and meat in every bite)The rest of the stuff on the menu does take more time but not that much more time...add another 2-4 minutes...and literally its ready.) Because we are fast and we serve fresh food daily and our prices are fairly low, we get the Mon-Fri workers for lunch and we get the big family orders for supper and the week-ends. McDonald's is McDonald's but we do give the former clown (Ronald was killed off, non?) a run for his money. Hey...we managed to close down Burger King even before we invested in a drive-thru!!! The only thing we dont offer is any kind of dessert. We have been thinking about this a long time now, but we dont know what to offer. We want something cheap in price, but good quality, easy and fast to make that will represent and compliment our food service. We havent found that product yet. My partner is quite good in that. He is always testing new stuff and he brings it to the store. He goes to these conventions often. But there is always something a-miss...

Where there is a will, there is a way... https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/dragstrips-near-superchargers.95695/