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The ONLY way I see for autonomous driving to be implemented and succeed if its done on a CLOSED circuit. Yes...COMPLETELY closed from top to bottom left and right. Like in an underground subway system. And even then...on an UNDERGROUND SUBWAY SYSTEM WHERE THE TRAIN IS ON A TRACK... http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/driving-montreals-newest-metro-azur-is-harder-than-it-looks

There is an autonomous driving crash... The car had an under inflated tire but it hit a pot hole rendering the wheel loose prior to the accident but there was a recall on the steering... Whose at fault? Forensic science would probably solve that mystery... Lawyers on the other hand will paint a different picture depending what fence that lawyer is on... Autonomous driving...some how I dont think no-fault accident reports will fly with this...

All what I just said is WORSE for the car sharing idiocy that Silicon Valley douches also want to throw upon us. The trucking industry is regulated, but not as strict as the aerospace industry...good luck with that on the owners of the would be car sharing industry. ITS EXPENSIVE for the up keep of airplanes, trucks....CARS. Also, in places like Arizona when the area is a dry climate and its safe for metals and metals dont rust... In places like Quebec where the humidity itself corrodes shyte and not to mention the salt used to melt the ice and snow....a fleet of cars would not last long and would need to be replaced sooner... THAT takes BILLIONS of dollars...on top of the maintenance costs...for just that 1 car sharing company. That does not sound like a very profitable business model unless the cost of usage is high....but what consumer wants to part take in such an expensive service....might as well by a jalopy...and if its a PRIVATELY OWNED jalopy...are the autonomous driving systems in tip top condition? Yeah....back to square one... And who will enforce the privately owned jalopy owner to comply? OK...there are rules in play as of now to take old cars off the road... OK...as we know, electronics dont have to be that old to fail...so how will the inspections happen? Cars that fail will be off our roads? Good luck in telling people that that they wont be able to drive their 3 year old car because a sensor is fried.

For the record, if I was not clear enough in my other posts, I dont think autonomous driving will a) be released anytime soon b) be all that safe anytime soon because 1. autonomous driving, as discussed before, is a long ways out before autonomous driving decisions made by artificial intelligence become rational enough to be released upon humanity a) there arent enough examples and variables to program artificial intelligence, and there never will be even though Silicon Valley douches have gone ape shyte collecting all kinds of data the last 2-3-4-5 years. b) aerospace industry auto pilot systems have collected all kinds of data the last 40 years...real crashes, experimented crashes, near misses, perfect flights all from that little black box only to refuse to implement full on auto-pilot on commercial airplanes....and we all know the traffic up in the air is not as nearly as congested. c) LITIGATION THIS IS THE BIGGEST HURDLE in my honest opinion MORE SO than inclement weather engineering hurdles. In the aerospace industry, sometimes an airplane crash is not so cut and dry to lay blame so was at fault, and in the aerospace industry, their are a lot more regulations for safety and maintenance to be followed and more or less, the airline industry follows quite closely. Even the manufacturers of these aircraft are held accountable to the strictest possible degree regarding manufacturing standards... Who is to be responsible for infrastructure failure? Quebec's roads are HORRIBLE Michigan's roads are WORSE!!! Just because autonomous driving exists....it does not mean pot holes will cease to exist...a pot hole screws up suspension systems and wheel ball joints and stuff... The cities dont pay for civilian damages now...good luck with that going forward for autonomous driving. Will we as citizens keep on agreeing on higher taxes for the infrastructure up keep? We dont take care of our cars now...will the government IMPOSE safety and maintenance regulations on our vehicles as the FCC does with the aerospace industry? I have NEVER heard of this talk regarding autonomous driving legalities...only about what crash avoidance decisions artificial intelligence talks about what decisions should be acceptable. But I KNOW that MAINTENANCE is a HUGE problem regarding car crashes... Brakes not being up to snuff...air bags being disabled on purpose or out right removed, ABS systems disabled, tires being bald...in the aerospace industry, all that is hardly an issue any more because of stricte regs... In the trucking industry...there are safety and maintenance regs to follow and yet...even on this area...not very well regulated...

We all just acknowledged with our own anecdotes backed by Balthy's both links that autonomous driving engineering is a long ways off...especially with Balthy's both links as both links expose the debilitating weaknesses of autonomous driving. Whether it be train tracks or fields...for the most part of an autonomous driving voyage in those scenarios, traffic of any kind is at a minimum and the very minute instance of interference renders the system vulnerable. And in those scenarios let me remind ourselves...as with autopilot mode for airplanes up in the air, the two variables that are constant and calculated is that the speed of the autonomous driving object remains the same for what....90% of the journey? And that the other autonomous driving objects are known and well followed in the computer autonomous driving system before hand. With cars...those two variables SEEM to be constant but as we know, there are a few more autonomous driving objects on the circuit than on a train track or field or up in the air and as we all know, because of those links, that life is never a perfect obstacle free journey. I wanna know with what balls do these Silicon Valley douchebags have to impose such a hazardous thing upon us when agriculture and aerospace still has not perfected this and autonomous driving has been in these fields for 20 plus years. I think for the aerospace industry its closer to 40 years. Modern Military radar systems could see several targets at once and deploy the necessary autonomous driving missiles to destroy targets all at once...and even then....not so precise...and even then...with a human in the pilot's seat. It is said that the next generation of military jets are to be drones...but that is a good 20 years away... Silicon Valley douchebags want to impose autonomous driving cars in a shorter time frame than airplanes....WTF???!!!

I had forgotten that the agriculture segment has been probing and exploring and actually being full on active in this autonomous driving realm. One aspect that I know will NEVER overcome in this realm of autonomous driving was just confirmed by reading this from the Balthy's John Deere link: In a wintery environment where snow, slush, mud wreak havoc on the visibility of any cameras and the delicate circuitry of the sensors... Where condensation also wreaks havoc on the camera lens and the salt to melt the snow also screws up and erodes any electrical contacts and messes up the conductivity.... Where the roads are covered in all that muck... The cameras and sensors will NEVER be able to "see" anything in a scene like this where there are no perfect lanes for cars to travel and the cars themselves are riddled with that filth and to boot...autonomous cars will also slip and slide (two cars slip and slide in that gif...) So when all that mess as snow, ice and slush on our roads is clearly present...and there are NO PREDICTABLE AND CALCULATED VARIABLES TO PROGRAM the artificial intelligence and the sensors and cameras cant see and feel...how does autonomous driving succeed in that reality? IT CANT AND IT WONT!!!

1. Cadillac CT6 Hybrid 2. Karma Revero 3. Cadillac ELR 4. Acura NSX 5. Ferrari LaFerrari 6. Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid

Car #1-American Muscle car, American traditional restaurant of some sort. https://orangejulep.ca/ A Montreal landmark. Back in the day, girls used to roller skate the food to your car...yes yes...SoCal milkshake&burgers style. I never got to experience this Richie Cunningham~Happy Days epoch , but every Wednesday in the summer... And a photo when the cars were NOT considered classics Since this is a Montreal landmark and this spot calls for an American Muscle Car and I love the GM A-Body, Ill choose an A Body that was only sold in Canada(not really...its just a 1969 Chevelle badge engineered to look like a Pontiac) A 1968 Pontiac Beaumont 396SD.. Or a 1970 Dodge Coronet 440 Superbee Car #2, Italian car, Italian food-for those who do not like Imports, you may substitute an American car. Ill do Greek restaurant but with an Italian car. But many many original Italian owned authentic Italian pizzerias exist in Montreal's Little Italy where Id be happy to go to as well. But I am Greek so Ill toot toot toot the Greek horn! Ill do two Greek restaurants. These two restaurants are always competing for the best souvlakis in Montreal. The second restaurant also has three locations but the link is of the original and is the most authentic Greek atmosphere of them all. http://marathonsouvlaki.ca/en/index.html http://souvlakivillagegrec.ca/ These were pretty popular in Greece back in the day. Id bring one over from Europe to go drive around Montreal when the desire is for the family to swing by old Greek or Italian neighborhoods. 1969 Alfa Romeo 1750 GTV Car #3. Vintage 4 Door sedan of some sort, restaurant should be some sort of ethnic food. A restaurant thread and Montreal and Schwartz' Deli HAS to be included. Another Montreal icon. http://schwartzsdeli.com/ca/en/ Jewish people loved those Cadillacs back in the day. So do I. Cadillac it shall be. 1992 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham D'Elegance Car #4, Modern sedan of some sort, restaurant should be something with a good entree below $25.... My kids love this local chain of restaurants. Quebec style rotisserie chicken. Poulet St-Hubert BBQ. http://www.st-hubert.com/index.en.html 2012 Acura TL SH-AWD or a newer ride...but IMO, a similar ride 2018 Buick Regal GS Car #5, SUV over $75,000 current market value, Fine dining. Montreal is blessed with great restaurants... http://www.restaurant-toque.com/en One of Canada's best and it put Montreal fine dining back on the map. 23 years strong with impressing American and European tourists alike. Many aspiring young chefs have passed through this restaurant graduating and moving forward to many world renown restaurants all over the world. Right at the heart of Montreal smack in the middle of Downtown and Old Montreal, one could shop in the expensive boutiques of Downtown Montreal, walk over the short romp to Old Montreal and take in Montreal's and Canada's history...then eat dinner at Toqué and when the the dining is complete, all that is left to decide is what night club or bar scene one wants to attend... in Old Montreal or Downtown...to get there, a modern trendy romp has to be made in a modern trendy Tesla X. And since this is Montreal...the night life is hot hot hot! Bars, dance clubs, strip clubs. Formula One race in June. Formula E Race in July. Jazz Festival. And much much more Anyhoo...these are the rides Id be promenading the streets of Montreal during these crazy crazy crazy summer nights of Grand Prix week-end and the whole summer actually. During the exotic times with them Ferraris and Lambos Alfa Romeo tipo 33 Stradale During the Muscle Cars days 1970 Olds 442 W-30 And if I was single in my 20s again trying to pick-up sweet sweet Montreal cuties Ferrari LaFerrari. It dont matter if the girl you are trying to pick up knows nothing about cars...It dont matter if she hates cars and is an environmentalist feminazi that also is a feminist and hates masculinity...they will drop their panties quicker than the LaFerrari could reach 60 MPH because they all recognize that prancing horse and they all want to ride in one.

This one is PHOQUING GREAT!!! Ill do mine tonight! Ill marinate some ideas over the course of the day.

Yeah.... Just like every new generation Vette that comes out...there is almost always a new engine that goes along with it... There are exceptions of course when a new engine goes in the last of the old generation...but in general...a new gen Vette appears, so does a new engine... And in between, HP bumps and tweaks are offered and sometimes new engines are introduced mid-cycle...but usually...a decade goes by with the same generation platform so sometimes new engines are introduced to compliment the base engines along the way... Standard industry wide practice I would assume...and GM with the Corvette is no different... Why is this perplexing you?

This is just pure, unadulterated trolling.

I love this car!

There was an Ancient Greek philosopher (I forget which one) who once said: "Greece is at the center of the world, Athens is at the center of Greece and the Parthenon is at the center of Athens" So yeah...you and other Athenians past and present at least agree on one thing... (Its said that Athenians are pompous egotistical show offs) I must admit though....I am immensely proud to be Greek. And although my ancestors are not Athenians nor from the Attica region or Central Greece, they did come from a Province that was loyal to Athens more so than the other city-states...so Ill casually flaunt Athenian (and Greek) pride from time to time! Yes....life is too short. A Tesla and Miata roadster shall be in your near future. The Oracle of Delphi, Indiana told me so. Percy Jackson led me to the temple.

HYBRID!!!! (said like Seinfeld's Newman's reaction) Damn...I forgot! OK...so Ill have to steal one of yours....and its not as if I dont have any Aston Martins in my collection.... Traded straight up red for red!

The first 5. The first 2 are Aston Martins....you cant have too many of these British cars....as with sex and money....all these go hand and hand. 1. Aston Martin V12 Vanquish Zagato 2. Aston Martin DB11 3. Speaking of sex. Any Ferrari and women just drop their panties for you....like almost immediately after meeting and greeting you. When I was looking to post my Ferrari pic...I came across this pic...I FOUND IT TO BE PERFECT!!! CAN YOU GUESS WHICH ONE IT IS? Before you go further, try and guess what it is! The vid down below features it! 4. 2017 M-B S600 Brabus 900 5. Rolls Royce Dawn The next 5 6. Jaguar ΧJS Convertible The next three cars are not what I usually choose...but hey...V12 yo! 7. Ferrari LaFerrari 8. Lamborghini Reventon. I could have with an Aventador which looks about the same and its on a newer platform, but the Reventon is way way way rare. 9. Im surprised Im actually choosing this one, but it is a handsome car that I always did like to be honest! BMW 850 CSI 10. Hey...I need another 1980s V12 icon in video format to show you folk Like the poster!!!

Sure. The ZR1 C6 touched $100K when it came out. It was a slow seller...but the market got used to $100K Vettes. If this rear mounted mid-engined Vette is to be the best of the best of the Vettes, then it seems plausible to assume it will be north of $100K. Please dont tell me that Vettes are affordable...Best of the best Vettes were NEVER affordable. Not the 1965 396 Vette, not the 427 1966-1969....certainly not the 1969 ZL1 nor the 1990-1995 ZR1s. Not the 1996 Grand Sport nor the C5 Z06s...Not the C6 ZR1 nor the C7 Z06 and the upcoming ZR1... Ive covered 52 years of best of the best Vettes that were not affordable by the average joes...so spare me that argument please. Vettes always had a plethora of engine choices in its history. I wont delve into the rockin' 50s and crazy '60s where the engine choices were mind exploding overwhelming...but dont tell me that in your era that is not the case as from 1990 forward...there was always at least 2 engine choices. It even grew to three as of late. The C6 had 3 engine choices. The C7 will soon have 3 options.... Plus...the good thing about that is that Chevy gets to use these in their Camaros and watered down versions in iron form in their million a year sales pick-up trucks....so...

This is how it starts. Gas stations were sparse when the horseless carriage was upon humanity. The highway system was all but a futuristic dream too during this time. By the time Route 66 came around, gas stations were springing up slowly slowly and along the way, motels and diners and all kinds of wonderful family owned businesses flourished along that route. Then the highway system got built, then roadside gasoline stations with McDonald were sprouting like mushroom and route 66 is just a ghost of a route that only in the last 15 years has regained popularity to due nostalgia. In the ancient times....it took millennia to establish the trade routes we have today. "All roads lead to Rome" but before that..."Rome was not built in a day" are two expressions that I think are relevant in my little speech just now.

He has got a lot of fantasy projects going on. Sinking money on fairy tales really. Unlike Jobs whose ideas were swift and effective...so yeah.I agree, he is no Steve Jobs. Just let me be douchey and allow me to counter with this pic All in good nature just for discussion's sake.

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Yeah. That would be a logical idea. I did not know Johan was a marketing guy. But the product is great! Before he joined...what you see is the product that was in place before he joined... We really havent seen what HIS product will be like. Just one concept which is the Escala. Even the name changes to CT5, CT6, XT5 and so forth are not of his tenure. The marketing and HQ move to NYC is his and THAT was a good move. The Dare Greatly campaign was his and it....sucked (or continues to suck) only because he is failing to....dare greatly... Lets get this straight though. Marketing sucks before him and it continues to suck with him! The products that Cadillac has out now ARE great. The interiors could be improved further, but they HAVE come a long way to where they were at the start of THIS decade (2010s). In reality, lets give Johan some time. The bankruptcy, the GM bureaucracy, the half a million CEO changes and shuffles, the ignition switch scandal, all have conspired AGAINST Cadillac to remain focused... It seems that there is LASER focus ONLY on 1 model launch at a time at GM...for all divisions.

Or maybe tell Johan to take a hike...sales will increase by default as wherever Johan goes and leaves, the place he leaves improves the sales automatically...

Not to quote you per se, just that this tidbit of info picked my curiosity. Its more of a jab at Mercedes Benz CEOs trying to bullshyte their way selling that Nissan pick-up truck rebadge as the first real premium pick-up truck...that I wanted to highlight it!!!

Eh oh! Ill trow a coupl-a burgers down your troat! Thank-you! Thank-you very much!

@A Horse With No Name yes but....you did not say if you were gonna still love me tomorrow...