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Genesis News: Genesis G70 is Korea's 3-Series Challenger
ccap41 replied to William Maley's topic in Genesis
There's no reason to sell it that cheap though... Between a leather lined interior, electronic locking front and rear and/or together along with a standard v8 and solid axles front and rear there's no reason to because it sells. Plus, they probably couldn't keep up with demand as they're still hand assembled. -
Genesis News: Genesis G70 is Korea's 3-Series Challenger
ccap41 replied to William Maley's topic in Genesis
At least MB knows how to convince people to buy $h!. Cadillac should take note. So never buy to consider anything cool because you don't do it often? That's the least enthusiast-like thing you've ever said. If we all did that we would all be in Camrys and Fusions(and Casa can get a Malibu, because Chevy). -
Genesis News: Genesis G70 is Korea's 3-Series Challenger
ccap41 replied to William Maley's topic in Genesis
Like you say every single time with your personal Cadillac experience, get out and drive one and be in one regularly and them come talk to me. Anybody can find bad pictures on the internet about almost any vehicle. Shall we find quality control issues on Cadillacs? That cup holder is a fckn joke though. I literally laugh about it because it's such a joke. It holds...almost nothing.. Hell yeah you can! Everybody here complains about how overly complex vehicles and their systems get and how technology is ruining the driver's car and when there's one vehicle which keeps it old school(and the Wrangler!) people get on it for that too. There's just no winning with people. Drew has also mentioned that it isn't an uncommon occurrence to see things like this on auto show floors as most aren't finished vehicles/concepts/prototypes/vehicles that will never be for sale. -
lol, there's nothing tacky about marble floors...unless it's just an obnoxious color.
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Well it isn't a 3 row SUV. but it's 3 inches wider, 6 longer, 3 taller...fair amount larger. Most comparisons compare the RR Sport to the JGC. That seems pretty significant for a 2 row SUV. You're right it isn't a BOF GM full sizer but I also think those are stupid big. After looking at the dimensions the big Rover is closer in size to the Tahoe than the JGC. Definitely smaller than the Tahoe.
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Genesis News: Genesis G70 is Korea's 3-Series Challenger
ccap41 replied to William Maley's topic in Genesis
The gf's isn't fit with mismatches screws or poor fit and finish. Things fit as they should and with 180k miles on it there still aren't squeaks or rattles. Plus, its a vehicle you could fit in. The roof is like a mile high. If you ask me, 4 platforms across their entire brand is pretty impressive. They have so many vehicles there isn't a single hole in their lineup from the cheap CLA to the bonkers Maybach AMG. It's safe to assume that the G is the only one on its own platform along with the AMG GT but with the G being 800 years old I'd say its safe to assume that's been paid for long ago. -
30 miles for a vehicle 8 times the size of a Volt and shaped almost like a brick is pretty impressive to me(Range Rover, sport is more like 4 times as large). I mean they can't just cram batteries underneath because they likely want to keep its off road abilities and clearances. FYI, I'm being a smartass about the sizes but they are both much much larger than a Volt. "regular" Range Rovers are huge vehicles.
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Genesis News: Genesis G70 is Korea's 3-Series Challenger
ccap41 replied to William Maley's topic in Genesis
How many platforms are in the German lineups? Is the 3/4 Series on one? C Class on one? Or do those share platforms with the 5/6 and E Class? I honestly don't know. How many of those V12's have ever been sold? I doubt they are selling THAT many S65's and G65's. It's just an old engine now. That was probably the only way they could justify making it. Make sure they use it for 10 years. -
I loved that rear glass that opened up. My dad's Envoy had it as well. ^ The Range Rovers have a tailgate system like that. Glass opens up and the bottom folds down like a truck's tailgate.
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I know it's the Euro cycle but if they got 30 miles of EV range that would be bad-ass. I could buy a gas guzzler but never use any gas.
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There's one 2-way tailgate out there still... Honda Ridgeline.
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Genesis News: Genesis G70 is Korea's 3-Series Challenger
ccap41 replied to William Maley's topic in Genesis
Exactly! but when a luxury automaker produces something FWD or FWD based people lose their sh!t over it. Check any thread ever about the Continental for verification, lol. -
Genesis News: Genesis G70 is Korea's 3-Series Challenger
ccap41 replied to William Maley's topic in Genesis
LOL again with the Benz VS Cadillac? They're just going to start hurting each others' sales instead of increasing their own. -
One can like and want a car and still acknowledge its shortcomings. Okay, they BENCH-MARKED the car, then also BENCH-MARKED the dimensions. Blah Blah Blah... The ATS's engines are inferior to the BMW engines. Numbers don't lie. These are autos which there is little to no skill needed to run the best times. Brake torque, foot to floor, ATS is slower. Yes, because that is what they dropped the car with. They released it with a worse engine/trans lineup. Even with the updated tune(I forget which year it was they retuned it for slightly more hp/tq) and the 8spd it is slower than the BMW. I'll give you its a negligible amount at that point but slower is slower and that took how many years to get? BMW handled the ATS's engine lineup for 4 years(?) before they gave it what the BMW already had. I don't think you were in the wrong at all. It sounds like you just stood up for somebody who was being disrespected for absolutely no reason. Good job on your part!
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Yeah the Rover had cream colored piping and stitching as a contrast. Definitrly looked better than 100% blue.
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Good point. Then, IMO, they should have pushed the release back some.. I just really feel like they needed that at launch.
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I get to leave work early today because..protesters... @Frisky Dingo Are you away from that crap? I forget where you've said you work.
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I personally love blue leather. I've only been in one vehicle with it but it was awesome. Helps it was a Range Rover.. To each their own.
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I didn't say it was an exclusive idea. I even threw out arbitrary numbers of it being in a group of 5. I didn't count or list all of the luxury non-sport sedans but I know they aren't the only one.. isn't the ES, Volvo, 'hatever Acura fits this size' all in a similar group? Sales aren't anything special but theyre a heck of a lot better than the POS MKS that it replaced and the product is 10X better than the MKS as well. What did you expect it to be? This is the first Lincoln to finally take a step away from Ford by FINALLY using different switchgear and a genuine emphasis on luxury amenities. I already mentioned and agreed with cp that it should have gotten the 9spd out of the gate. Whether it be a delay of the product or a speed up of the 9spd development...that should have been a "Need".
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Very true! Similar to the 8spd that wasn't originally in the ATS, the 320i wasn't around back then either. So the Cadillac is a bargain? I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing and like you said, it all depends how they're equipped... You could get a base engined car over the price of the optional engined car if one chooses that route.
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The thing with the GT is even if you and I had the cash for one... we still wouldn't be able to buy one. It isn't like a 488 or 675 where we can order one and get it. No, there was an application process and a limited run of 500(Or was it 1000 in 4 years?) and they're all spoken for. So while I agree with you.. I don't for that reason only. Had I had the money..I still COULDN'T get one. You only insinuate it every time Cadillac interiors are compared to anything else.
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According to YOU it is the better car hands down. Many of the professionals had split decisions. And it is great their first(real) shot at the small sport sedan segment was that great! I'm not knocking their attempt, they made a good product. I'm just saying that they absolutely copied what BMW was doing, because they basically said they were. They absolutely do not have the better engines. n/a V6 without torque vs a severely underrated turbo I6. BMW/s I4 was even better while being severely underrated. Thank god Cadillac finally ditched the garbage 2.5. Not that it was that bad of a motor but it didn't belong in a Cadillac. I4's vs each other was night and day BMW winning. 6's? Same thing. BMW whooped the Cadillac. ATS 2.0T 0-60: 6.3 1/4 Mile: 14.8 BMW 2.0T 0-60: 5.6 1/4 Mile: 14.3 ATS 3.6 0-60: 5.5 1/4 Mile:14.0 BMW 3.0T 0-60: 4.8 1/4 Mile:13.4 http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2012-bmw-328i-vs-2013-cadillac-ats-comparison-test http://www.motortrend.com/cars/bmw/3-series/2012/2012-bmw-335i-2013-cadillac-ats-mercedes-benz-c350-comparison/ Uhhh... When did the ATS ever outsell the 3 Series...? So Lincoln didn't copy a specific car from Cadillac? I didn't think so.
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I mean more with cars like the Continental or a Camaro SS(mostly last gen) where yeah they're heavy cars but who really cares? They both do what the're designed to do. If you want the manufacturer to drop tons of cash into the overall weight of the vehicle expect something either way more expensive or more Miata-like where handling is their top priority. People bitch about how the Ford GT isn't as light as it "should" be and to that I say... so what? I know we don't have any comparisons tests(likely because Ford is afraid of not stomping the competition and they won't look good..HATE THAT) but the formula they wrote is a solid one and weighing..50lbs more than fanboys and girls would like makes for a petty argument, if you ask me. House of Cards rocks. I love that show.
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1 of 5(as a random estimate) was not in an way insinuating that they are the only ones doing it. I've gotten on them as well for using the wrong transmission. I don't know how but they needed to launch that with the 9spd. I know it wasn't really possible with how things times out but they should have pushed this back or something. That should have been a "Needs to get finished" for it to launch. I will never understand why people care about what a vehicle weighs IF it does its intended goal. Luxury car weighs too much, still does what it needs to accomplish.
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I'm not implying they could have at all. They just don't give a $h! to do that. What benefit would they have gotten by trying to make a sport sedan and then being one of like 10 entrants or go the route they did and they're more like 1 of 5. But like you said, they don't even have something to make as a sport sedan so what good would it have done them to hold onto their other $h! for X more years until they finish their D4 platform(or whatever the heck it's called)? Everything is kind of a placeholder until the next, better product comes down the line.. Who knows if Lincoln will ever make real "comeback cars". I think Ford/Lincoln are too big of pansies to allow them to really go nuts.