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This one goes out to my homie @dfelt Electric mini van smokes Ferrari 458

I think it looks GREAT! I'm just not a huge fan of a n/a 4 banger matched to a 9spd.. aren't their issues with that combination now?

Just reading more because this truck will be a monster. "Before we discuss these magic shocks let’s run down the roster of supporting hardware mods on this package, which is available in extended cab and crew-cab configurations with the 3.6-liter V-6 or the 2.8-liter turbodiesel four. The four-mode AutoTrac 4WD system (RWD, 4 auto, 4Hi, 4Lo) is upgraded to include Eaton electronically locking differentials on both axles. The rear can be locked in all four of the above modes, the front can only be locked in 4Lo after the rear axle is locked, bringing to nine the number of driveline modes available. Hill descent control is offered, and an off-road mode button invokes one of 30 different maps for tailoring the throttle response, shift strategy, and the ABS, traction and stability control systems to suit whatever conditions confront a ZR2." "Other functional improvements on the 2017 Colorado ZR2 include a suspension lift of 2.0 inches, a widening of the track by 3.5 inches, a swap to sturdier cast-iron lower front control arms, and fitment of 8.0 x 17-inch wheels wrapped in 31-inch Goodyear Duratrac off-road tires that afford exceptional traction. And to improve suspension articulation, the 1.5-inch diameter hollow front anti-roll bar is replaced by a softer 1.0-inch solid one. " "Now for those magic shocks. Shock absorbers work by plunging a piston through a tube filled with oil, and forcing the oil to flow through some sort of holes or channels that regulate how fast it can move. Usually these holes are in the piston, with flow through them being controlled by a series of metal discs that deflect as oil passes through them. Tuning these discs to provide precisely the right flow rate is a hugely time consuming pain in the posterior, and normal production tolerances can result in variation from the ideal flow rates of up to 15 percent. Racing teams could never tolerate such inconsistency so in 2001 Multimatic Inc. of Markham, Ontario developed the Dynamic Suspensions Spool Valve and soon after Newman/Haas Racing teams using Multimatic DSSV dampers began winning Champ Car titles. Instead of deflecting discs, oil presses against another precision-machined spring-loaded piston or “spool” that moves inside a thin sleeve into which little ports are laser cut to extremely precise tolerances in a temperature-controlled environment. The shape of these ports is computer designed to regulate oil flow rates as the piston moves exposing more of the ports." "The Colorado ZR2’s duty cycle could not be more different, but the beauty of DSSV shocks is you can shape those orifices to deliver any force/displacement curve you like for any duty cycle. In this application, two DSSV valves like the ones in the Z/28 are relocated to a chamber next to the main shock tube. As the piston moves through the typical stroke experienced in on-road driving, it forces oil to flow out of that tube through a ring of orifices and into this chamber with the spool valves. More extreme suspension inputs of the type that typically only happen off road cause the piston to move past these orifices, at which point the oil is forced through a third jounce-control spool valve that’s located in the piston. This one is tuned more like a Baja racer’s shock. A third chamber contains the volume of nitrogen gas that accounts for the volume of the piston rod that plunges in and out of the space where the oil otherwise lives. Moving both the spool valves and this nitrogen charge out of the main tube allows for more suspension travel within the same shock absorber packaging space." http://www.motortrend.com/news/2017-chevrolet-colorado-zr2-first-ride-review/

So... we are or aren't getting the diesel..? If this offers a diesel chalk me up for a waiting list. Okay maybe not.. but I will SERIOUSLY consider it.

Ohhhh Okay, that makes sense! It's like a bed liner for the rocker panels. I could see those saving some big bucks if you go over something that you misjudged the clearance on.

Alright.. I'm stupid.. What are rock rails? Yeah I usually add in at least a bed liner of some sort. They're pretty necessary if you want to take care of your baby and still use it as a truck.

Uh oh... lol That's actually a good wager In all fairness, I have been talking about the crew cab with the 2.8 this whole time. Which, I realize isn't the base trim(I didn't realize until I looked back at the article that it is offered with the regular extended cab) so those two alone are about 6-7k? So from my 48ish-k price one could cut 6-7k from that for the smaller cab and 3.6. Man, that Duramax is awesome but holy balls as a 4k option it's pricey. I just built a 4x4, extended cab, Z71 with the 3.6 and it was just a tad over 40k. $40,690. I don't know how it could be built less than that. 45k starting sounds about right for the 3.6. This whole time I had the Duramax stuck in my head as if that was the only option for some reason.

That's all cheap crap compared to the ZR2. COMPLETELY different packages, you are correct. But the fun, good pieces on the ZR that make it as badass as it will be are the pricey bits.

Why can't you? Yes it's 99% cosmetic but think if the additional costs ON TOP of making the cosmetic changes like real shocks and body work.

Just looking at where a Z71 can go with the 2.8 I don't think it is near as absurd as you think it is. All new body panels and these PRICEY shocks on all four corners along with the 4WD system.. makes things escalate pretty quickly.

lol all good brother

That isn't a good thing.. They've been out of production for like 2 years at this point.. Weren't they only 2014's?

I don't see why something like that would be completely dissolved and fuel economy wouldn't matter all of a sudden.

As long as FCA is around they will be able to sell pollution credits.

Why is it stilly if they're within 10% of price of each other? They both have similar intentions.

That's where I tried to go but for whatever reason the page was "simplified" and didn't break it down like that at all. I do like that they break it down to the T for us to see the payload and towing capacity. I've seen them tow but you're spot on. Nobody buys these to tow.. The occasional trailer for things is great but they aren't designed with that in mind. Am I seeing something wrong but that link showed the shorter extended cab(134.2in wheelbase) Raptor towing only 6000lbs? Same with payload, 1200 SCrew and 1000 extended cab.

But if you equip them similarly you won't be touching 60k in the Raptor as it just offers things the Colorado doesn't. 10k seems right if you aren't getting the optional Duramax. That seems more accurate than what I found. Definitely. Is that extended cab or super crew?

Yeah it's not made for that though.. Comparing it to the Raptor again the payload and towing capability are dog$h! as well. Looking on Ford's website it doesn't seem right because it still states the 12,200lb towing capacity and 3270lb payload. I'm pretty confident that those numbers drop a decent amount for the Raptor.

Yeah but those base prices are extended cab, 3.6 not the Duramax which is only offered in the crew cab. So I guess the 3.6 will be offered at a much more reasonable price but the Duramax will be insane for the money, imo. Raptor starts at 49,500(with destination added in). Add in the 801A package to get leather and 10 way adjustable seats brings it to 52,600 in crew cab form, not Super Crew. Super Crew was 55,600. I'm not sure what you added to get another 15k but it had to have been absolutely loaded to the brim with extra petty stuff. Jumping to the 802A($9300) package the Super Crew was still "only" 61,800. But if it's 10-12k more than a ZR2 at THAT package level you're getting features that the Silverado doesn't even offer. The 801A is realistic price comparison.

So I'm having a difficult time understanding where this will price and why anybody who isn't a fanboy would buy it over a Raptor... Here's why..(I do understand if you genuinely want a smaller vehicle because not everybody wants a half ton size truck. I built a crew cab, Z71, with the Trailboss package and the Duramax and it ran up a tad over 46k. Won't this be at the very least a 2-3k package on top of that?? That brings it to just under 50k and a Raptor is something like 52-55k. Unless I'm screwing up and can be built in lesser trims like LT or LS. I guess I'm just assuming it is added price on top of the top trim.

I guess for some reason I was thinking Escape and not the EcoSport. Or just anything larger would have troubles opening in a closed garage.

I wish my Escape had that! The last gen Escapes had that and I think it is a great idea. But can it be opened with the garage door closed? So many advantages and disadvantages of the swinging door. I'm kind of up in the air about it as of now.

I've definitely stood under mine for a few extra seconds preparing to get rained on.

Well I wanted a Canyon but to be honest I just wanted to find something different. The Hilux is super ugly compared to the Tacoma we get here otherwise the diesel version of that would have been a no-brainer because I love how it looks. The X3 was just kind of the daily/larger vehicle used for any form of people or "things" hauling. I'd LOVE a GTD! Such a cool concept, performance oriented diesel car. Way cool to me.