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There was zero mention of sandbagging in that article. If you would please point out the part where they mention sandbagging. If you're referring to them running ver quick laps then the Ferrari 488 and Corvettes all had BoP changes this week reducing speed and just yesterday they gave a little back to the Vettes. Really? That's actually really cool!

I think it's pretty safe to say it's just a lower PSI in that rpm range. No way would they only allow boost over 7000rpm and heck, I don't even know if that's possible to even do. Plus, there is no way the turbo mill makes enough power if you eliminated the turbos to keep pace with anything.

I didn't realize one team could field 4 cars. I saw a little article the other day highlighting the drivers and the new program and whatnot but I didn't realize they could run so many cars.

Lovely bike Drew! Motoplex by my house sells Yamaha, Indian, BMW bikes and has a great selection of used also. Here is their used listing, http://www.motoplex.net/s/search/inventory/availability/In%20Stock/usage/Used/type/Street%20Bikes/type/Cruiser~~V-Twin/sort/best-match Here is their listing of Indian, You might like the black Dark Horse bike. http://www.northsoundindianmotorcycle.net/s/search/inventory/ Over all, I have to say I like the selection of bikes at Motoplex. http://www.motoplex.net/index.htm Those prices on the few that I'm fairly knowledgeable seem outrageous. 7k for a 2007 GSXR1000 w/ 19,200 miles on it.. Just sounds high to me. When it was brand new in 2007 it was probably only like 12k back then. Then a 2013 CBR250 with 12,200 miles for 4k... a brand spankin new CBR300F is 4k and a CBR300R is 4,400. Oh and a new CBR250R is only 4200

Wow that's really awesome you gave everything away to those who need it rather than the people who sound like they were trying to screw you over because they probably thought you'd just be too lazy to come pick it up. Good for you, Olds! V8s do just sound great!

I can't ever see me commuting on the bike unless I was leaving from the office to go somewhere on a trip. I only go into the office one day a week now, partially because the commute is so bad. I'd be walking the bike for half of it.. To otherwise answer your question... I'm not sure. I love getting out on the open road for a while even in my Toronado. Probably mostly 1 - 3 hour jaunts. I'd like to take longer trips too. I do want to be able to put side bags on whatever I get in case I want to do an overnight somewhere, but I would not want to leave them on permanently. Edit: I intend to buy a full face helmet, so I never really thought about a fairing. Fairing really does play a major role in more than just your face. Maybe try looking at the sport touring route. My dad has a Honda ST1300(it's a little dated now as all of the others have been updated) and it's freakin great. The Kawi Concours 14 is a badass touring bike. It'll legitimately hang with a lot of the sporty bikes and then you have luxury at your fingertips/butt as well. Adjustable windscreen and air vents for if you want more of less air on you, they make heated everything for it in the aftermarket along with power outlets for phone/gps/radio. Get a rear trunk and your space is almost endless and it gives your partner a backrest which is very reassuring if you've ever ridden on the back of a bike(I did it once and will never again.. I didn't like the lack of control). You can get cruise control.. Again, after doing a little more reading the Yamaha FJR1300 has a lot of insane stuff standard; Cruise control, adjustable seat height(without tools), multi-level power modes, traction control, lean-angle LED sensitive lighting to see through curves at night, heated grips... so many things that are pretty gnarly.

I should probably ask what kind of riding do you plan on doing? Taking trips kind of thing? or more or less shorter 1hr jaunts here and there sometimes w/ and sometimes w/o a partner? Commuting(oh yeah you work at home now!!)? I ask because FAP brought up a great point w/ the fairing situation.

Personally, I wouldn't worry about keeping up with anybody. If they are riding at a pace that's too fast for you then you're into felony territory anyway... even if it's just hustling around the back roads. Similar to what Scout said, I'd go sit on a bunch of bikes that you think look good and go from there. I'm not going to say don't let looks sell or don't sell the bike because you want to look at your bike and love it still. Holy $h!! a two-stroke 750?!?! That's one gnarly bike!

Well the Streetfighter is a badass bike.. to legitimately keep up with that you'd also need a lot of bike and about the only ones that would truly keep pace with the Streetfighter. if driven balls out, are the I4's like the GSX750, Z800, or even more so the 1050 in the Speed Triple. What's you dad have???

After doing a little looking around I found Kawasaki makes a Z800 now! I always thought their Z1000 looked pretty sweet but it would have been too much bike for me. Awesome they have an 800 now...too bad it's still an inline 4 as well but probably an awesome bike nonetheless. Wow also found Suzuki makes a naked version of their supersports as well, GSX750. Freakin' awesome!

Yup, the SV650 has been around awhile and has a good reputation as well. I've never really gotten on board but that's just because of the styling seems a little bland to me and the tail section looks very dated compared to all of the new naked bikes out there today. The segment has blown up over the last 5 years.

Oh yeah, KTM also offers a naked sport bike, 690 Duke. Pretty gnarly bike(single cylinder - sounds like a dirt bike!). It is also offered in a 1290.

That's pretty much exactly right. I've ridden dirt bikes for years, but this will be my first street bike. I really don't care about speed, of the three vehicle in my driveway now, none exceed 160 hp. Edit: And I will almost certainly be buying used. I'd give the Street Triple your strong consideration. and if you're comfortable enough because you aren't new to 2 wheels a Speed triple(1050cc as opposed to 675). To go with that Yamaha has an FZ-09 that's also a 3cyl but 900cc. If you're not concerned about speed.. It has a fantastic 3 cyl engine that offers a lot of low-mid range punch for a sporty bike while still leaving something like 120hp on tap for when you do want to get nasty. I'd avoid an inline 4 as they have zero bottom end. A V-twin like a Monster would be even better if you're not looking to race as they have gobs of low end but a much weaker top end(but still no slouch of a vehicle as the smaller Monsters still run 12's in the 1/4). dfelt, Very interesting motorcycle, ugly, but very interesting!

Sporty but not a crotch rocket and your first bike? One of my all-time favorites, might be a little more ass for a first timer than it should be but nothing insane, Triumph Street Triple. I'm not sure how much 2-up riding you plan but if you are planning on doing a lot then this isn't the bike for you but i it's for the occasional ride here and there it'll be just fine. First gen: Second gen: You could also go the route of a Ducati Monster(all different engine choices ranging from like 620-1100 if you're looking used), not as sporty as the Streetfighter and it'll be along the lines of the Street Triple. Yamaha makes a new FZ-07 that's a parralell twin 700. Won't be the fastest thing in the world(considering it's a 700) but a long the lines of the naked sport bikes. A buddy of mine's dad has one of these in a super dark matte gray/black and it's one heck of a bike. So many features and it's made to just ride for days on end.

Other than the G wagen and Uimog(Unimog because they can basically be built into anything, ever. So universal in what they can be used for) in the original post I think the only other one that I would actually want is the Knight XV but I would definitely need to give it some more power with how big and heavy that thing is. Maybe a modern day 6.7 Stroker(because it's based off an F550 chassis) with a little tune because starting out at 440hp/860tq is a great starting point. W/o ths modern 6.7 it's only rated at 300/660 but weighs 13,000lbs!

I had rented this yesterday. The Spark's older, bigger cousin. Would one be able to say that a GM fullsized van is the opposite of a Spark? Or would that be a Corvette? Alls I know is that driving the LWB Savana yesterday took me back to a time when I still had hair on my head and pimples on my face. It was an enjoyable day spent with it. Whatdya need to move, Olds??? I hope you hooned that rental a little bit before giving her back! lol Did it have the classic GM 350 or 4.3? Edit: Oh I guess there's a 4.8 in the middle as well... Or that?

I would assume so. Even if it was just to buy a 2016 when the 2017s were on the lot...therefore getting a little better deal.

50k for a Wrangler?!?! When did this happen??

I'd take one. Give me the one Casa pictured and I'd be one happy fella.

Let me ask you some thing dfelt. What do you think they should use? Simple, having uncles and Aunts in local police forces here in washington I have had this chat with them many times and they all admit that they can easily us much smaller 4 door sedans than the huge purchase of police interceptor versions of SUV's, they only need a few motorcycles and should have at least 2 police interceptor models of high performance cars, could be mustangs or camaros. For bringing the equipment to a crash scene, there are many options for the vans or full size SUV to use. Usually a commercial van is best. With that said, as long as the state, county and cities give a wide open choice they are trying to give every officer on the force the same fully loaded SUVs. There is allot of waste in government and we all know it as many jobs can be done with much less auto or no auto. The problem is one department sees what another buys and wants the same toy. Perfect example is the Home Land Security office here in Seattle. The whole force is nothing but GM Tahoe police versions. Does HLS really need to have a full fleet of petro drinking SUVS when they spend the bulk of their time in cites? I bet most of the tax payers would be shocked at how much waste is spent on auto's and allowing the gov employee to drive said auto's home driving up the amount of fuel used by giving a perc to these workers that private workers do not have. Why should the cops, fire department, City Employee get to drive a taxpayer auto home every day putting on needless miles and gas costs when they could use mass transit or should be driving their own auto to work. Very good explanation and I can see the logic there. However, I have law enforcement in my family here in Arizona and they say that the larger vehicles are indespensible (for example, the sheer number of unmaintained dirt roads here demand a real SUV). The cops here hate the smaller sedans they are forced to use now. Most would love to have the Crown Vics in service again. Seems to me like the use of certain vehicles depends on where you live. But why do they hate the smaller vehicles? "just because" or are they worse for the job. Because just because somebody doesn't enjoy the smaller vehicle that doesn't make it worse for the job. It could just be that the driver wants to feel on top of the road.

Let me ask you some thing dfelt. What do you think they should use? Simple, having uncles and Aunts in local police forces here in washington I have had this chat with them many times and they all admit that they can easily us much smaller 4 door sedans than the huge purchase of police interceptor versions of SUV's, they only need a few motorcycles and should have at least 2 police interceptor models of high performance cars, could be mustangs or camaros. For bringing the equipment to a crash scene, there are many options for the vans or full size SUV to use. Usually a commercial van is best. With that said, as long as the state, county and cities give a wide open choice they are trying to give every officer on the force the same fully loaded SUVs. There is allot of waste in government and we all know it as many jobs can be done with much less auto or no auto. The problem is one department sees what another buys and wants the same toy. Perfect example is the Home Land Security office here in Seattle. The whole force is nothing but GM Tahoe police versions. Does HLS really need to have a full fleet of petro drinking SUVS when they spend the bulk of their time in cites? I bet most of the tax payers would be shocked at how much waste is spent on auto's and allowing the gov employee to drive said auto's home driving up the amount of fuel used by giving a perc to these workers that private workers do not have. Why should the cops, fire department, City Employee get to drive a taxpayer auto home every day putting on needless miles and gas costs when they could use mass transit or should be driving their own auto to work. The only real question I have is why in the world would a police force actually need a Mustang or Camaro? If there is a high speed chase going on you don't get to decide which car flipped their lights on first and is in pursuit. In the unlikely scenario of the chase lasting a half hour then the Mustang/Camaro could catch up to the chase but that's a stretch.. The bottom 3 paragraphs I completely agree with.

I agree, which only makes this more confusing. I would wager to believe some way or another that employment and/or money is a problem and you'd save a lot buying/leasing a smaller American made car than this tiny i3. Yes, LA has stated they will save on the fuel cost and help go greener, yet do they really need these auto's for the use they think they will apply them to. I am willing to bet they could find alternatives that would be better than this and some of it could be as simple as putting meter maids or Men on bicycles, having them walk, etc. Of course they will save on fuel cost if they eliminate the fuel being used for the smaller cars but how about a ridiculous payment on said small car that could be reduced by buying Volts? Stupid politicians. They just know how to word things to make people think what they did was right.

Let me ask you some thing dfelt. What do you think they should use? I am not dfelt but I'll throw my opinion out there for $h!s. If the options aren't limited to vehicles already with police packages I think the cars should be a class smaller than the Charger/Taurus/Impala and be more like the Fusion/Malibu size and there would be savings in fuel which I think should not be overlooked with how much those engines are running. 1mpg improvement goes a long way w/ a fleet of vehicles. I also think the Explorer, for the most part, is larger than most actually need. Granted, I don't know all of the equipment that gets stuffed in them but it's hard to believe that they use the extra cargo space over an Edge and obviously they never use the 3rd row of seats. So I would go with vehicles in the Grand Cherokee/Edge/Equinox(I know it competes with a different class but it's kind of a tweener and large for its class). Oh and the new Acadia that's also a larger 2 row CUV. I think there should be plenty of additional space in those CUVs over the cars for whatever additional space is required from a larger vehicle in the first place yet they should save some in fuel costs. Oh, and obviously all American made. Same goes for the cars I listed. They aren't the small, tiny economy cars that some want. I don't feel like that is realistic yet the mid-size class is loaded w/ technology in the driveline and car itself to be fuel efficient and give the "at the limit" capability that law enforcement needs. The larger cars are just boaty in comparison to the modern mid-size sedans. Good reasoning there. Thanks ccap. Now, do you know why they prefer larger vehicles as opposed the ones you mentioned? I do not. Just assuming it is for extra carrying capacity with all the miscellaneous stuff they might need at any given point.

Let me ask you some thing dfelt. What do you think they should use? I am not dfelt but I'll throw my opinion out there for $h!s. If the options aren't limited to vehicles already with police packages I think the cars should be a class smaller than the Charger/Taurus/Impala and be more like the Fusion/Malibu size and there would be savings in fuel which I think should not be overlooked with how much those engines are running. 1mpg improvement goes a long way w/ a fleet of vehicles. I also think the Explorer, for the most part, is larger than most actually need. Granted, I don't know all of the equipment that gets stuffed in them but it's hard to believe that they use the extra cargo space over an Edge and obviously they never use the 3rd row of seats. So I would go with vehicles in the Grand Cherokee/Edge/Equinox(I know it competes with a different class but it's kind of a tweener and large for its class). Oh and the new Acadia that's also a larger 2 row CUV. I think there should be plenty of additional space in those CUVs over the cars for whatever additional space is required from a larger vehicle in the first place yet they should save some in fuel costs. Oh, and obviously all American made. Same goes for the cars I listed. They aren't the small, tiny economy cars that some want. I don't feel like that is realistic yet the mid-size class is loaded w/ technology in the driveline and car itself to be fuel efficient and give the "at the limit" capability that law enforcement needs. The larger cars are just boaty in comparison to the modern mid-size sedans.