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LOL that isn't how that works, brother. Don't bother explaining the obvious. When you have magical powers like Mercedes, you can lose money and its still okay. No one else has this ability. I mean there are some fanboy things that get thrown around but to say, "That B-class EV probably loses money, so they probably prefer that it doesn't sell. Is just ridiculous!
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LOL that isn't how that works, brother.
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Most aren't unless they're buying the V8 versions. Other than that they are usually people who just really like the look of the car. Completely agree. An average test drive will not show off its superior driving characteristics as most dealerships aren't held over race tracks or back road canyons and in that case a softer ride on a test drive will probably sell better..obviously not too soft but again, if you're not buying the V8s in these cars you're likely not the kind of person who wants the stiffest and tightest of chassis.
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The Camaro 2LT starts at $30,795, not $31,7xx.Sorry, you are correct. My bad.
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I think some might be that regardless of the performance the camaro is just more expensive. EcoBoost Premium starts at 29,6xx and a 2.0 Camaro 2LT starts at 31,7xx. Base engine to mid range engine. Camaro's v6 adds 1,500. To most people who aren't getting the V8 that's a pretty big difference.
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All I know is that I would absolutely love to get the car in the OP, ATS 2.0 AWD. I could live w/o the AWD as the ATS's wheels aren't too wide so winter traction on regular all season tires probably isn't dog $h!.
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May 2016: Fiat Chrysler Automobiles US LLC
ccap41 replied to William Maley's topic in 2016 Sales Archive
Dude, I can't agree more! There are soooooooo many better vehicles out there than those 15 year old little SUVs. If there is a BOGO I'll go havzies(halvsies/halfzies) with you on a pair of them so we'll each get one for 50% off.- 39 replies
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Good lord, the best car saw a -21.5% this May over last May. Also, where are these 22,000 E Series being sold this year?!?!
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Personally, I think the Cruze just looks better enough to want to buy that but if you're trying to keep overall costs down the Sonic would be the better bet in saving thousands up front. Are you looking at the brand new Cruzes?
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That's a really awesome picture, I dig it! Also, I know I've said it before but those wheels really make that car look great. I'm not much of an Intrepid fan but those wheels really make it look a lot better.
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Wow, how I wish I didn't live in the mid west... Beautiful country up that way.
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The footprint of the vehicle does matter though. That's one reason trucks continue to get larger is because as they get bigger and fuel economy stays roughly the same(with the larger engines, not the engines made for fuel economy(2.7 and 3.0 diesel) ) they aren't an issue. It's a ratio basically. "First, like the current 2012–16 rules, these new standards are size based. That means there’s a formula to calculate the required CAFE—within limits—for each car based on its “footprint,” which is the product of its wheelbase and track dimensions. In 2011, for example, the required CAFE mpg for the smallest car would not exceed 31.2, while even the largest car was assigned at least 24 mpg. For 2025, these car limits go up to 61.1 and 45.6. Truck mpg is calculated in similar fashion using a different formula. For 2011, the truck mpg ranged from 21.1 to 27.1. In the 2025 proposal, it spans 30.2 to 50.4 mpg. Notice that the formula has been adjusted so that the low end of the range rises less than the high end to help accommodate large trucks. Second, because these CAFE requirements are based on size, every car company actually ends up with a different CAFE requirement, depending on the mix and size of cars and trucks that it actually sells. For every model year, each company must calculate the CAFE requirement for all models it markets and then determine the sales-weighted average for its actual mix. Therefore, a company such as General Motors, with its heavy share of large pickups and SUVs, will have a lower CAFE requirement than Suzuki, which primarily produces smallish cars and SUVs." http://www.caranddriver.com/features/the-cafe-numbers-game-making-sense-of-the-new-fuel-economy-regulations-feature "Here’s how it works. A 2010 Honda Accord has a wheelbase of 110.2 inches and a track of 62.6 inches. Multiplying those two figures yields a footprint of 47.9 square feet. If you plug that figure into the government’s formula, you get a target mpg of 35.9 for 2016. The smaller its footprint, the higher the fuel economy a given vehicle has to meet. A current Ford Focus would have to achieve 40.8 by 2016, while a Mercedes S-class will have a bogey of 31.8 mpg. The aforementioned 328i will have to hit 38.2 mpg." http://www.caranddriver.com/features/how-automakers-will-meet-2016-cafe-standards
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What kind of vehicles do you have? And what are you putting in them?
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That's actually a very good point considering the wheelbases are probably similar with how freakin huge Bentlys are meaning a similar CAFE score. But a more modern engine will definitely produce less overall emissions and be cleaner.
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It's quicker to 60 but slower through the 1/4. So it's a yes and no. I assume gearing played a major role in the differentiation between the two. CT6: 0-60: 6.1 1/4 mile: 14.7@92mph 300ft skidpad: 0.81g http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2016-cadillac-ct6-sedan-20t-luxury-test-review Ecoboost Mustang: 0-60: 6.3 1/4 mile: 14.5@98 300ft skidpad: 0.95g http://www.motortrend.com/news/2016-ford-mustang-ecoboost-first-test-review/ I put the road holding "ability" in for good measure because of how $h!ty the mustang handles and how superb the Cadillac does. *sarcasm*
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GM News: GM to Offer Stop-Start on Most of Their Lineup By 2020
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Well by then it will be like Seat Belts as you may not have many options otherwise. This is an industry wide deal and it is going to be found nearly everywhere. And seat belts can be worn or not worn. (legal ramifications are another story)- 22 replies
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I forgot about that. Nice call. http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/ford-builds-800-pounds-lighter-fusion ""There's not a one-size-fits-all approach to light-weighting," said Matt Zaluzec, Ford's technical leader for global materials and manufacturing research. "The Lightweight Concept gives us the platform to continue to explore the right mix of materials and applications for future vehicles.""
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The gauges in the ATS look WAAAAAY better when lit up and in person. They look terrible when the vehicle is off and you're right, all they're really missing is a little chrome accent. I really like how you can manipulate what information you want and where you want it on that LCD display too. Really cool. It looks like you cannot do the same(it's at least less customizable) on the Mercedes and probably can on that BMW instrument cluster.
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That was the first thing that I thought of too. Make EV versions of the C or E but don't make a third vehicle slotted between them.
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North Carolina Rejects Tesla's Dealership Application
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North Carolina Rejects Tesla's Dealership Application
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How to do it without hurting the manufacturers? Make dealerships worthy of making people want to go to them. Keep their dealership network but make them good. Don't make them hostile, dirty, crummy employees/salespeople. Beat the competition the way they know how(or should know how), great customer service. The best businesses/corporations out there all have one thing in common, great customer service. McDonald's, while employing idiots at times, know how to make a customer happy at the end of the day. Kiss the customer's ass and give them the free crap they feel entitled to(right or wrong) and boom customer leaves happy. Treat a potential 15-100k spending customer like they are about to spend 15-100k not like they're(the salesperson) about to receive a $200 commission check.- 26 replies
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Maybe the dealership network should sell itself to the public and just make going to a dealership a good experience rather than one that people dread. Just be the best they can be as opposed to forcing their system on other companies.- 26 replies
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See that argument falls apart as Tesla can do like everyone else was forced to do and sell dealer franchises like everyone else. Just because it is the old way of doing things doesn't mean it is the right way or fair way of doing things.- 26 replies
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