surreal1272
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I second the dealership knowledge part and will add this little tidbit. I cannot tell you how many times I had to drive or just simply move a car because certain sale people couldn’t drive a damn stick! I get that it’s a niche market for those now but it baffles me how a sale person can claim to be knowledgeable about a car but can’t actually drive it. Today’s world.
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Then there’s some good ole depression era Mississippi delta blues.
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Pay attention next time and I won’t have to correct you (and provide a link) again Spanky.
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You really want to talk about “elitism” with that BS you spouted about me yesterday? Seriously? Next time just call yourself a hypocrite and remove all doubt. So criticize the SMK way yet use it as your reason for Diesel sales being in the toilet? What I’m seeing out of your hypocrisy is that excuses for diesels are okay but not when it comes to EVs. Face it. Outside of the heavy duty pick up market and some other commercial uses, the AVERAGE BUYER in this country (buying it for themselves and not for business) don’t care about diesels. This has been true for nearly half a century now yet the dinosaurs can’t see that very obvious writing on the wall. And regarding the cylinder count in the GM twins, that is not the problem. I drove the Colorado Diesel last year and was pleasantly surprised (thank you torque) by it. It is not lacking for ability as a commercial use truck because of having two fewer cylinders. Any reasonable person would understand that after one drive. Again though, the average buyer just doesn’t care and probably because the full size diesel pick up market is just that dominant and tends to render smaller pick ups rather useless in their eyes, whether the reason is valid or not. Oh and I provided the source of those numbers on the previous page. Since you have a habit of reading what you want to read, here’s a screenshot and said link. https://www.dieselforum.org/vehiclesales/u-s-vehicle-sales-dashboard
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Proper reading comprehension and sticking to the subject were never his forte. Cut him some slack.
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26 years in the biz yet it is you who doesn’t get it. More and more folks are using the internet to do just that so enjoy being left behind if you seriously think that he doesn’t get it.
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Thanks. Here’s two for you the next time you want to try and insult someone over where they worked and what they did just because you don’t approve of the subject matter. The issues with the Bolt are pretty simple. Either market the hell out of it to increase sales and awareness or cease selling it and move on towards better applications of EV tech like an actual CUV or SUV. It certainly is a better use of money than investing in diesels that no one wants. Combined sales of the Colorado and Canyon (both less than the Bolt for the year) back this up.
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Then here’s some classic rock for ya’. From one of my top ten all time favorite albums. Also in my top ten.
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Sadly wagons represent far less than that when it comes market penetration. (At least in the US anyway).
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*cough cough*bull——!*cough cough*
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Maybe you meant “Pantera”? And I agree. Hard to believe that most of the good stuff from the 90s is more than a quarter century old now. The life and times of the modern old fart I guess.
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Sorry. Meant to source that. https://www.dieselforum.org/vehiclesales/u-s-vehicle-sales-dashboard
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For all the hiccups in gaining a solid foothold in the US, EVs and alternative fuel vehicles are doing far better than anything Diesel which is only propped by pick up sales with a few van sales sprinkled in for good measure. They are non-existent in CUVs and sedans. Funny how those dismal sales aren’t brought up by EV haters with the same vigor that is presented here.
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Honestly @balthazar covered it pretty damn well. The resident hater, that never offers anything to an EV discussion other than snarky remarks and trolling, should read that three times before joining in an adult discussion again.
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I don’t give two $h!s what you think I remember. No AWD or 4WD option equals tall wagon. Again, regardless of the ONE GM page you found said, their own window stickers say “Wagon” and they were not once marketed as a CUV. And your reading comprehension is lacking as usual I said that it “looks like a CUV” not that it was a CUV and that CUV buyers will not look twice at it SINCE IT IS NOT A CUV! Understand it now? Big difference there that even a five year old could figure out. And comparing a car that’s half the price of the Bolt (your Kicks reference)? That takes a special kind of stretching to say the least. Just keep that level of ignorance to yourself next time. Wtf does my previous job have anything to do with this conversation? The answer is “nothing”. Personally I find it sad that you’ve done it for 26 years yet come off as spectacularly ignorant towards a huge subsection of cars but that laugh fest is for another time. For the record though, I’ve worked at three different dealerships in two states in the last eighteen years, two of those in sales. Doesn’t change any facts mentioned here so keep that condescending BS to yourself. Speaking of “how many times” How many times do we need that you hate EVs? You talk the talk but sure as hell cant walk the walk. Just more juvenile snowflake bull$h!.
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That sounds an awful lot like a homophobic insult. Well, just relax there junior.
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I will second several points echoed from the past (one of which dfelt already pointed out). The looks are a problem for a lot of folks. It looks like a CUV yet it offers nothing that other CUVs offer, like AWD or 4WD. That kills a huge subsection of potential CUV buyers looking to go green. Second, and this is the big one, has been total lack of marketing, much like the diesels certain folks here crow over. I worked at a Chevy dealership last year and during that time they had exactly one Bolt that sat for almost two months with a $44K price tag on it. Most of the sales people knew jack and $h! about the car and that price was a huge pill to swallow for a lot of folks. All of this had nothing to do with the powertrain and that’s what the dinosaurs don’t get. It has said a million times in the last, that had the EV tech gone in something more like the Equinox, sales would be better (potential high price not withstanding). I don’t know why the EV hater here doesn’t get what has been discussed a thousand times now but those are the simple facts. Diesels don’t sell for $h! here either and their issues have cost manufacturers BILLIONS. Guess, by your logic, we should give those up too right? Just for you @ocnblu, this article covers the issues facing the Bolt perfectly. Read it, understand it, and move on from your endless troll act. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/brookecrothers/2019/07/21/chevy-bolt-the-best-ev-youve-never-heard-of--still/amp/
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Ah deflection, the favorite practice of the defeated. I actually have every song in my collection that I’ve posted here. The title of the thread is “What are you listening to?” not “Be careful what you post or you may affect Blu’s delicate sensibilities.”. Again, if you have a problem with that, just add me to the “ignore” list in your account settings because I’m not changing a thing. It’s that easy. And you know exactly what you can do with the insult snowflake. Part of my actual YEAR OLD playlist that Mr. Delicate has a problem with. @ocnblu Seek help for that paranoia.
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Back to “What are you listening to?” To say I’ve waiting on this one for a while would be a vast understatement.
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What was that about relevant topics and escalation? Sadly typical and typically pathetic.
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This is just a damn good jam!
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Shhhhn! Be careful. That’s not very “random” of you.
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Oh stop it drama queen. There was a conservation about the subject you hate prior to your interjection. What qualifies as a “random thought” anyway? I see the same things talked about on this thread all the time and no one has had a problem with it (unless is politics which gets shut down for obvious reasons). Want to solve YOUR problem about seeing anything to do with dfelts preferred subject matter? Add him to your “ignore” list and POOOF! Problem solved and you can stop acting like a baby about it. Again if his were about anything else you didn’t hate, you wouldn’t have a problem with it.
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When you “like” a post about escalating (and not doing it) one day and later post the above on another day. I am willing to bet that you wouldn’t have a problem with it if this were always about Diesels or basically anything else that doesn’t have the word “electric” in it. Get the F over it.
