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August 2019: Toyota North America

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31 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

It is simply astounding that the RAV4 is putting out full size pick up type numbers. 

Almost 50k a month of those things... and they aren't even that great.

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37 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

It is simply astounding that the RAV4 is putting out full size pick up type numbers. 

It's outselling the Tacoma and Tundra combined, and ahead of the Camry and Corolla.. wowza

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Camry sill selling well in a sea of under performing sedans. 

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59 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

Camry sill selling well in a sea of under performing sedans. 

One of only two six-cylinder mid-sizers left. 

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Hybrid RAV4 sold at around 150k a year clip.

 

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17 minutes ago, frogger said:

Hybrid RAV4 sold at around 150k a year clip.

 

Such an underwhelming product, true Lemming mobile.

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13 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

One of only two six-cylinder mid-sizers left. 

I like it better than most other cars in its class, actually. 

 

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14 hours ago, dfelt said:

Such an underwhelming product, true Lemming mobile.

How is it underwhelming?  

It seems it compares very favorably against the rest of the segment.

According to fuelly, people seem to get around 35mpg average,

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Seems like the non hybrid RAV4 is mostly criticized for its powertrain/noise.

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3 hours ago, ykX said:

How is it underwhelming?  

It seems it compares very favorably against the rest of the segment.

According to fuelly, people seem to get around 35mpg average,

To me there is nothing inspiring about Toyota's product line. From Style to interior layout, materials used, just a lemming mobile that does nothing to make me want to buy. This is built for those that just want to fit in and follow everyone else.

Yes that is not a bad thing from a business that is all about making billions, but I like something that makes more of a statement. Hence the reason I own an AWD Trailblazer SS, Durango RT, Hummer, Escalade ESV Platinum, etc. I choose my own path and that is not to follow the herd.

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14 minutes ago, dfelt said:

To me there is nothing inspiring about Toyota's product line. From Style to interior layout, materials used, just a lemming mobile that does nothing to make me want to buy. This is built for those that just want to fit in and follow everyone else.

Really?  And current Chevrolet vehicles for example are much different?

To me this looks as bland and uninspired as anything, generic as they come

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At least Toyota tried to put some style into the new RAV4

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The Rav4 has some very Jeep styling cues in the squared off wheel wells w/ raised black edging and the overall profile.  It looks pretty good for the segment.  Though the CR-V has sexier taillights. 

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24 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

The Rav4 has some very Jeep styling cues in the squared off wheel wells w/ raised black edging and the overall profile.  It looks pretty good for the segment.  Though the CR-V has sexier taillights. 

From the rear they look almost identical

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3 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

It is okay for me to not like either?

I certainly don't....so we are in the same boat...

 

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Like the look of the two tone Trail/Adventure trim version

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4 hours ago, ykX said:

Really?  And current Chevrolet vehicles for example are much different?

To me this looks as bland and uninspired as anything, generic as they come

2019_chevrolet_equinox_f34_td_517181_717

At least Toyota tried to put some style into the new RAV4

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Sadly, NOTHING Chevrolet builds right now inspires me to want to own something except one which I have never fit into as an adult. The Corvette is the only thing I still Love, Wish Corvette had a Performance SUV as I would go for that, but the current style of all their auto's SUCK excluding the corvette which as I stated, I CANNOT FIT INTO! 😢

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The only things at Chevy I really like and would put in my hypothetically flat driveway are Corvette, Suburban, Tahoe, and Volt. 

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RAV 4 is a stylistic disaster. Wheelwell cladding cut short from reaching the rockers is comical, and the front looks like broken shale; too jagged. Dint find the exaggerated underbite attractive either. 

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The RAV4 is better than most small crossovers, they also market it a fair amount, have Toyota reputation and I bet they have awesome lease deals due to the Toyota resale value.   If there was better competition they might take some sales from it.  I don't like the RAV4, but it is better value than the others in the segment.

 

Corolla, Camry and Avalon all up, so cars aren't dead yet, at least not at Toyota who is probably capitalizing on Ford and Chevy not making sedans.

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Current Deals on this ugly little CUV in the PNW.

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26 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

Corolla, Camry and Avalon all up, so cars aren't dead yet,

corolla & camry are dead flat for the year, and avalon is down 16%. Treading water.

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