Cmicasa the Great

I'm gonna call bulshit on your Encore Premium vs MDX comparison.. furthermore.. I like how U thru in the "even XT5" comment as the XT5 has been a favorite of all in having one of the best interior, if not the best interior in the segment it rolls.

Billions. The dealership we bought the Encore from was a Chevy/Buick store. The Trax and Encore were sitting right next to each other. The exterior is certainly different.. and the interior is easily seen as an upgrade. I honestly bet good money that the upgrades don't even cost them $10K. That being said.. I'd put the Encore interior on Acura level at this point

I have yet to look at an Audi outside of the R8 and come away even considering a purchase. The vehicles simply look to jellybean to get excited about. I would buy a BMW before any of them.. and Cadillac or Corvette before all. Obviously.

Yeah. I told her the same. The Encore is well loved by her and the kids, but the larger Envision is very desirable as well.. especially to those who have awaited a larger tweener not as big as the Enclave.

Ugly as shit is my way of describing it. As for teh ATS U configured.. yeah.. I'd have to go with a different exterior for the contrast. White would be my choice to set it off. But alas.. it your choice no matter what we say

No effin way would I spend $70K on a vehicle made by Hyundai.

I agree with this. Walking into a dealership one will see the Impala, an exemplary vehicle, on the large side.. and new Malibu.. perfectly sized in the middle.. and I'm also betting good money that they are picking the Malibu. Seriously. Look at these two and U would swear that they are the same size, with one having a cheaper price. They have virtually the same WHEELBASE. Look at the sales. The Malibu is up 14.4% while the Impala is down 11.8% YTD. The next Impala would be a better fit merging itself with the Chevy SS/Caprice. It could then do other HD duties without bumping heads with the Malibu. I declare again.. the next Impala should be Omega (or L-Alpha) based, rwd/awd, and sport a V6 and V8 only.

Yeah.. I was about to say that the Tall Sonic U speak of is already being sold as the Trax/Encore. Two vehicles that are doing quite well in sales right now. The latter taking a hit because I'm betting the Envision is grabbing some of its sales. As much as my ex loves her Encore.. when she saw the Envision recently.. she instantly asked me if I would consider helping her trade. I told her to wait a few months for the vehicle to have a more choices.

GM's got me in Luxury or Mainstream the ATS VSport Suspension in COUPE Or this Camaro SS...

I dunno about the Mustang.. but technically the Camaro's platform certainly has AWD in its repertoire with currently top rated 335HP. But if the Camaro gets something with more HP.. say coupled its V8.. the ATS-V and CTS VSport best get it too. Of course there is the Camaro getting a Vert before either

Beautiful car.. Hands down the way I would go if I were looking for a car in that size segment. Sedan or Coupe.. wouldn't matter, both are effin sweet. Only thing I would have changed is the package.. I would have gone VSeries... in White Diamond. But this car is immaculate. Your bro should be proud

And perhaps that's just the point. Cadillac styling, as beautiful as I think it is, remains a bit polarizing. This car in all ways still sings Art and Science, but with sexier lines instead of ballz out masculine ones. That could be the motivation.. to attract more women and men, via women to the already exeplararly engineered vehicles. BTW, I saw what someone else saw.. The Seville. When that car was reintroduced in 1976 it was and remained a completely different looking car within the Cadillac range. That and the Eldorado. The lights on those cars in the 90s were always horizontal.. as was the rest of the line, including the first Escalades. Cadillacs signature has always been FINS, or at the very least, a simulation of those fins. This continues the tradition. I have to remind people that it is a design study and not an actual production car... Altho if it were I might be making a deposit now

U would name a car "Scale" as a trumpet to what is coming in the near future... scale, being measurement of what is and will be luxury. The fact that U are bitching about a effin CONCEPT name is indicative of your constant hate of the brand anyway. I guess in your mind "Y-Job" was absolutely moronic. As for the car... I love it. The only place I see anything outside the realm of Cadillac is the headlight design and integration. I could easily see the current headlight design being put in its place with little effort. The body design in still A&S but with a nice bit of Elmiraj flare. Personally I prefer it over the El, except for the headlights and the lack of framing above the grill where the hood meets.. again he Ciel was top notch, but the El, IMO, was always non-production ready and looked more concept the more U looked at it. This is gorgeous.. except the front end needs to take back the current headlight design and completely frame the grille. The interior is to die for.. and it would be awesome if Cadillac offered a fabric blend like this in everything including the lower offerings. From Cadillac: This is something new.. as I was under the impression that this was a 4.2L. Either way.. I am hearing that the TTV8.. that is set to debut in the CT6 will be rated in the 580HP range. If this is the case.. I promise U that my CTS-V will be replaced with a CT6 a year after it debuts

Yeah.. but under the new Platform policies being put into place.. I'd rather see Corvette CUV then R.I.P Corvette. Anyway.. Porsche fans felt the same before 2002. Avg 1300 sales a month later since.. and investment money to produce better Porsches.. they shut their effin mouths. Oh.. did I mention a Corvette Family Sedan too.. to compete with the 500 avg per month sales of the Panamera?

No. I am in no way speaking of full size SUVs. I said CUV.. like the Cayenne and Macan. I am thinking that Alpha and Omega modified would serve Cadillac and Vette brands perfectly. Lets be clear.. there isn't much shared in Corvette and Impalas anymore. The ATS and CTS seem more like Corvettes than anything at Chevy sides the Camaro. Even with that.. only a percentage of Camaro buyers get the SS. The Corvette brand is sold under Chevy because of tradition. Its not even a cost thing anymore, because seriously.. how many people do U kno who can go out an buy a $60-100K weekend toy like its a CHEVY made product? Time for Corvette to grow up. Cadillac dealerships would be the perfect place for them.

When I thought of Cadillac just a decade ago I would have never imagined that they would have, let alone I would buy a 650HP sedan from them capable of murdering Porsches and Vettes in almost ever dynamic. Times change.. and even though I have zero issue with Corvette having a Mid-Engine vehicle sold next to the front engine one.. I do have an issue with it coming in at a probably $100K while Cadillac gets none. Hell I don't even really have an issue with a simultaneous release. If the vehicle development is done, then that only really leaves body stamping, marketing and a few other things. If Corvette is going to be a BRAND, and sold under the Cadillac experience.... then different story. But truth is CHEVY simply does not have the capability within its own dealerships to even service the Corvette.. hell Tahoe/Subur clientel its gets in a way that is befitting one capable of buying a $60K+ weekend toy, let alone another $100K + one. Besides.. if they aren't even gonna show until 2018, there is plenty of time for Cadillac to be ready to sell them

Because unlike Benz.. or BMW.. Cadillac is a part of a whole. It has sister brands that allow for its existence in teh same way that Audi exists within VW. If U don't think Cadillac brings massive profit to GM then U are a fool. They and U can paint the pic the way U want.. but in truth Cadillac has models that are platform sharing themselves into even more profits. The most blatant being the Escalade.. which I still have to convince some dullards is the same as the Tahoe/Subur/Yukon/YukonXL. The XTS and XT5/SRX are the others, and all are nice sellers. There is zero reason why their type of contribution should be cut loose as long as the core is RWD based models

Sorry Babygirl.. but neither Buick or GMC.. two mainstream brands need my help in combining sales. I will say that they are a sister brands sold under the same roof and for all intent.. and logistical purposes the upper-mirror of any Chevy dealership, no different if GMC just took over all of Buick's car models and called them GMC (GMC Lacrosse for instance) or Vice-Versa (Buick Sierra). Either way.. Buick is a global 1 Mil+ seller.. and GMC is a stateside 500K + seller. They are quite well. Mercedes combining sales of the E and CLS is the equivalent of the ATS and CTS being combined then.. as they are the same in almost every way except length

The point is to U and that blow hard souiliquent (whatever).. the E-Class is combining sale.. no matter the amount.. its sales are augmented. Furthermore the E-Class is being sold at a much discounted price in order to move metal for the upcoming model.

I don't like U.. but I have to agree. I think the current config of Corvettes is enough. The Mid-Engine should debut as a Cadillac.. and if then.. GM sees fit for amortized return.. that the Chevy brand gets a "ZR1" with this set-up fine. But then, I think it will be high time for Corvette to pack its bags and go on its own as a bonafide brand. CUV and all.

No. Because the Cadillac fans have a LT4 in the CTSV. Not only that.. The ATS-V is a car in and of itself. For your constant instigating questions I pose this.. f@#kin C63AMG or M3 fans have an issue that the ZL1 will have 200 more Hp than they?

Who the hell is buying a 650hp vehicle and worrying about the backseat size? U are tripping. Truly. I agree that the pricing on the models could certainly use a revision. Drop by about $2K

Correction.. the E-Class and CLS are a combined 5225. I will also add that the E-Class can be had for $329 per month.. Cheap ass $h!. f@#k Mercedes. Takes a wee bit of splash away from your celebration.

Yeah but of course U would ignore the fact that now Benzo is combining CLS and E-Class sales. $h! if this is cool.. why not just combine CTS and ATS sales? And before someone says it.. the CLS interior volume is almost less overall than an ATS