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It needs 430 horses, like the vette. I hope those rims make it into the GXP. They teased us on the GT and we got not so good looking ones. I know my next RWD.

I think, they are afraid that the volume Impy may bring will bring them on the brinks of CAFE. The combined effort of Pontiac will be less than 100,000 sales annually. While Impy can easily beat that number.

:rotflmao: Blu, do spend time on any other website than youtube and cheersandgears?

Bob, how many times did you shag? Is junior Bob finally lame and out energy? A good truck. I would rather have this than a Colo-Can twin. I agree G8 ST should be fine.

Sometimes it is bad to be a messenger. I think you did a right thing. Many people do not read any documents. I was aghast how people blindly sign when the person on the other side says, "Oh yeah on this form we mention, blah, blah, blah and that is it, it is not important." If it is not important then why should I sign it?

Can you burn the songs and ship it to me? I need some songs bad.

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It was more of a "Yes we can" build a truck better than the Detroit ones, and sell it to the sheeples. It is a disaster. But I think half of the Turds are sold in Florida.

Yes Handsome. Listening to Madonna -> Frozen. Ray of light was her most transforming album.

BV's Favorite Music - Country.

Invest with the bears and sell with the bulls.

Nah! That is just a smoke mirror. Toy is coming with HD line of trucks next year.

Knowing the answer does not mean it may be correct.

I was joking. Well Herr, you made the answer a broad spectrum of Yay or Nay compared to the specific question you asked.

You mean from a place other than Earth?

Curiosity kills the cat you know. Take a guess.

Besides that you are American not European.

<Dumb Dude Mode> Uhhhh, do Japanese have square balls? Just a thought.<>

I am sure he did not intend to kill you P-C-S, you are too much down the GME food chain to make any difference.

I agree. Although thinking how "tarnished" some people think this brand is, having one platform to test its capabilities will certainly help and then can be diversified in sizes like you mentioned, a combined volume of 500k may not seem impossible, and like I said those platforms need not be Pontiac only. Like you mentioned, a minimum option list will be viable like the Acuras, although options are like cash cows to GM. But please do not let it be like BMW where the car can be loaded to 160% its base value.

I like this ONE platform strategy for Pontiac. Make it versatile with 1) Sedan, 2) Coupe, 3) Covertible, 4) Wagon, 5) Sport Truck, and 6) SUV -> May be not if there will be one in GMC. Give them like you said a choice of engines with 4 and 6 NA and turbos, and RWD and FWD. Make them fuel efficient. It may be on Alpha or Zeta does not matter, so as long the combined volume is close to 300-350K annually, which I do not think why it will not be, Pontiac will have a winner in their hands. But the most important thing is to keep the prices between 25-35 large. In some sense, this platform can be shared with other vehicles from other brands so cost of building just one platform for Pontiac will be invalid. Pontiac need not compete with cars of different EPA sizes, but compete in vehicles of different EPA categories. Economics wise, let us say it is a stand alone platform for Pontiac with 5 years of life. Then it will be about 1.5 Million cars at average transaction price $30K each = $45B. It costs about 3-4 Billion to make a platform from ground zero, or roughly $2,000 per vehicle. I think that is achievable.

Let me guess. Is it going to be a FWD based on EPII built in Germany and have four cylinders and weigh 4500lb?

Although I agree with you that development should not be public about the product that is still conceptual and Honda did not make promises is a good point there are a few points you need to understand as to why GM thumped their chest. 1. Greenies view GM as an environment killer. Has a Honda dealership been destroyed by a Green Movement? Do people paint Kill Fridgeline on it? The movie who killed the electric car had GM as a villain not Honda. Like it or not GM has to sell its cars to the people who are part of these, either performing those actions by believing in what has been told. In short, GM had to convey people that it is changing perceptions. 2. All the times are speculations. Mercedes just showed off the battery with Li-Ion in a full production guise. I will not be surprised that MB, BMW and GM are working in sync for the Li-Ion technology just like the hybrid transmissions. 3. Another way to see is just like Lutz likes to play hard, by getting out in public he is forcing the company to meet or exceed the demands or get blown down and out forever. This may be a bold and brilliant strategy. Show fear in the eyes of the employees and the goods will be delivered. 4. I can understand about Chevy being boisterous in US, what about CPF's talk in Germany with Flextreme? They claimed it to be 50mpg. Do you think Europeans will believe in that BS? Considering the image Opel has, it would be a huge mistake.

There is no real reason for placement of the calipers. 9 o'clock or 3 o'clock is the norm because they are easy to package. Usually the car manufacturers optimize the placement for better space. You know how crowded it is getting there considering 4-6 pistons, adding cooling devices, etc.

It should not be overtly retro. Should have modern touches to it, just like the exterior. I am glad GM is working on it. The day is coming closer for its arrival.