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It may not be a lot of volume, but almost every other new vehicle that comes out is a coupe like SUV. Even stuff like the Audi Q3 and Ford Edge look sort of coupe like, some traditional SUVs are going that way. Then you have Q8, Atlas, GLC, GLE, X2, X4, X6, there is an X8 coming, etc etc. And there is margin on these things too. If Chevy made a Traverse coupe with 2 rows and a fastback roofline, it would basically be the same size as a Blazer, but would sell for $10k more because it is a "coupe". That is why the sales/marketing people love these things.
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I think they are mostly stupid but they are probably the fastest growing segment right now. Even traditional 3 row SUVs like the VW Atlas’s have a coupe version now.
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That engine had a longer than usual run from them, due to customer demand. They could have killed the V12 five years ago but I think it is good that they kept it as an option. That didn’t stop them from introducing new V8s, since that V12 went into service AMG had the 5.4 supercharged V8, the 6.3 V8, 5.5 liter bi-turbo and the current 4.0 bi-turbo. They kept moving forward.
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V8s are dying every year, and Mercedes is usually a trendsetter not a holder on. Porsche Boxster/Cayman are 4 cylinder only now and they are still fast. We will probably see a 4 cylinder is a volume engine of full size crossovers in the next few years. It is just how it goes. Personally I’d rather see an inline six C63, but we don’t know what they will come up with.
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Looks like a few years old Corolla from the front and a Supra from the back. Ugly car. Doesn’t even look like a coupe. Since car companies call 4 door cars coupes to make them sound sportier and charge more money, maybe they should call 2 door cars sedans for increase sales. A lot of people don’t a 2-door coupe because it isn’t practical. If Ford made a Mustang with a 3 box design they could market it as a family sedan and sell 200k a year even if it has 2 doors. A 2-door sedan has practicality in the buyer’s mind.
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This will be interesting and a gamble if they go this route. I don’t know if people want to pay $90k for a turbo 4 hybrid. I think if they use the inline 6 with electric boost for over 500 hp then no one would complain because it is sill 6 cylinders and smoother. Could pay off if the C63 is a 500 hp car getting 30 mpg.
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I would like to see a 6 door coupe with rear suicide doors.
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I am holding out for the Honda Odyssey 4-door coupe with a fastback roofline. 4-door could all things! I would be tempted by a Gen 2 CLS, the gen 3 is ugly. E53 all day over the current CLS. But I don’t need a car, so we’ll see in a few years.
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Chevrolet News:Chevy Throws $3k On Camaro's Hood for Mustang Drivers
smk4565 replied to Drew Dowdell's topic in Chevrolet
Shouldn’t they offer $3k to anyone? Rather than just Mustang owners which I assume are less than 1% of the total car buying population. -
Porsche News: Taycan 4S expands Porsche's Electric Line
smk4565 replied to Drew Dowdell's topic in Porsche
That didn’t take long, I wonder if a plain Jane Taycan for $90k is next.- 5 replies
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CTS-V is slower than an M5 or E63 in a straight line, CTS-V also isn’t around anymore and the E63 and M5 still are. Also the E63 wagon has the Nürburgring record for wagons, the AMG GT 4-door has the Nürburgring record for 4-door cars. With no insider information I think GM will find a way to keep CT6 around, but you never know what the bean counters will decide. $100k is a lot for a Cadillac but almost all the euro luxury brands have $200k products. Cadillac isn’t in tier 1 until they get up there. And I also think Cadillac should focus on tier 2 and try to dominate it and not go after tier 1. Cadillac had better market share 15-20 years ago than they do today, chasing the Germans didn’t work, which is why you see their top 3 sellers as FWD crossovers to go after Acura and Lexus now.
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I have a pretty good feeling the C-class is going to be better than CT4 or CT5 based on Cadillac not having build a sedan better than the Germans in the past 40 years. I'm not sure they all of a sudden found the secret sauce to build a world beater. They are killing the CTS and probably the CT6, unless they import CT6's from China next year, and the CT5 is priced below a C-class because Cadillac knew they had to cut prices. Which I think is the best strategy for them. Cadillac should be targeting Acura, Infiniti, Genesis, Lincoln, etc, not the Germans. An Escalade Platinum with options is about $101k, and that is their most expensive product. A Mercedes GLC 63 Coupe costs that, Porsche has cars that cost 3 times that. Even at GM, the most expensive car is at Chevrolet, it isn't even a Cadillac.
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This car seems more like what the GS should be. The interior is more inline with mid-size luxury cars, the turbo V6 would be a nice optional engine for a GS with a base engine below it. I don't think the LS has big luxury sedan presence or good looks either. I think the GS is supposed to die at the end of this generation and the LS will have to fill he void, so maybe they don't want to push it up market much. The new G90 I think looks better inside and out than the LS, but the G90 has dated engines too. That Hyundai 5.0 V8 hasn't seen an update since 2012 model year, that is 8 years now.
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Probably so with the A-class that is why it should have the 221 hp version of that engine, the CLA250 has the same torque rating at the CT4. There are A35 and A45 versions but I'd like to see how those get priced. I don't think the A-class needs a ton of power because they are appealing to people that never owned a Mercedes and are coming from a some sort of front drive 4 cylinder car. But 188 hp is weak, should have been the 221.
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I think they should have the 220 hp version in there. I have drive. The previous CLA250 and GLA, I think those are 208 hp, they are fine for daily driving, but nothing fast. I imagine the 188 hp in the A seems like it needs another 20-30 hp. And that is all tuning so I don’t see why not change it.
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Toyota News: 2021 Toyota RAV4 Plug-in Hybrid Coming to LA Auto Show
smk4565 replied to Drew Dowdell's topic in Toyota
Anything that says RAV4 on it will sell. The RAV4 hybrid outsells the Prius and Ll other hybrids, I bet the plug-in outsells all other plug-ins also. People love these things. Although I bet Toyota’s definition of “spirited acceleration” is different than say Porsche’s. -
VW News: Volkswagen Unveils the Atlas Cross Sport
smk4565 replied to Drew Dowdell's topic in Volkswagen
This will probably outsell the F150 next year because crossover coupes are the #1 in demand product. Jokes aside, I think it looks pretty good, has a bit of an Audi profile to it. 8 trim levels seems excessive, you’d think they could get by with 4. My question is how on earth do they only get 267 hp from a V6? Not much “sport” in that. -
First I doubt Mercedes is the most expensive to maintain, I had more stuff break on my GM vehicle than I have had on my Mercedes, my mom is on her 2nd Mercedes, and it has been more reliable than anything she had from Saab, Volvo or Audi. My friend has a Mercedes, I problems. JD Power Almost always has Mercedes ranked in the top 10 of all cars. That brand image wouldn’t exist if they built crap that broke all the time. If all it takes to have a successful luxury brand is a badge, why doesn’t Cadillac have badge snobs?
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Even if BMW and Mercedes are the 2 most expensive are to maintain, it doesn’t matter. They are the 2 best selling luxury brands in the world and in the USA. And this is nothing new in terms of their.costs or their sales level. So how does Cadillac get sales? Cadillacs cost less to buy and less to maintain yet they still don’t sell well.
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German car maintenance costs are irrelevant because consumers just don’t care. The top 3 selling luxury brands in the world are German, 3 of the top 4 in the USA are German and it took Lexus being #1 in reliability for 10-15 years to get a reputation that was mostly built off Toyota. And even today Lexus lives off 2 Camry platform products for a significant portion of their sales. Lexus IS dead in the water with their products that start over $50k. Cadillac is making the right move with larger car for less money, I think for what CT4 is it should have been even less money or else had more equipment standard. Like automatic braking and other safety items should be standard for a $34k asking price.
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They don’t but an E-class is an E-class, just because it has Nappa Leather and a digital screen doesn’t mean it has high maintenance costs. A diesel probably last longer than a gas engine but I have seen 300k mile and up gas Mercedes too. Right, and you get what you pay for. I actually thought CT4 should start at $30,990, because Cadillac has to attract buyers. Going after the Germans for 15 years cost them market share and didn’t work. They need to go a different direction.
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Highest service costs and yet there are 500k miles E-class taxis out there and 500k mile Sprinter vans. You’d think if maintenance was an issue FedEx, UPS and Amazon and the taxi companies would either be broke or find something else.
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A Mercedes will last longer, has better resale, better interior, the MB-Tex will last forever. I would bet $100 to a donut that the C-class will outsell the CT4 even costing $10k more because consumers know it is a better car. CT5 is the C-class competitor now any way. I think CT4 is a decent alternative to an IS or Q50 that undercuts both in price, not those models are dying on the vine. Kia Stinger and Genesis G70 are at this price point and don’t sell, Alfa Romeo Guilia has power and performance and doesn’t sell. CT4 is no different.
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This should be priced below an A-class if they want them to sell. Can’t compare this to a C-class as the C is a way better car, plus the CT5 is the C-class competitor. Plus this is Cadillac, they can’t get German pricing. Now I didn’t read the whole standard equipment list, if this car is really well equipped on the base model then the price is okay. But this is basically Tesla Model 3 money without Tesla brand image.
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Premium Luxury is the way to go at only a $5k jump over the base model. They over priced the base model, but they’ll probably have discounts or a lease special to move them. Not sure if the V is worth it for another $7k for 16 horsepower and bigger brakes and a limited slip diff unless some other stuff is thrown in.
