Robert Hall

My '87 Mustang GT and my former '96 BMW M3 were dedicated fun cars, though I did at various times drive them daily...they were always #2 or #3 cars, except when I had only the Mustang for a brief period in 1997 when I moved to Colorado. In the future, I could definitely see using a fun new car like a Charger, Mustang, Challenger or Camaro as a daily driver, as long as I'm in a climate w/o the nasty stuff..if I do move back to a climate w/ ice & snow, then I'll still probably want an SUV daily driver...

I suppose they are dropping the 3dr version of the new Accent because the Velocstr will sort of fill that niche.

LoL..the 1st Taurus and '92 Crown Vic were like that also.. One of GM's coolest designs of olden days IMO had a grill bigger than any contemporary car grille--the early 70s 2nd gen Camaro RS..love that nose.

The story behind the effort over the last 15 years or so to get this game out may be as or more compelling as the game itself. There have been articles on it in Wired and in software development magazines as a study of software companies and development projects that have gone horribly wrong...I've worked on a few projects from hell that had deadline slip of a year or more, but the DNF story takes it to the extreme..

That was just my bluetooth keyboard apparently throwing a fit. It's fixed now. I'm with you - I think 3dr versions of both the Sonic and Accent would be quite attractive. If Mini does so well with its 2dr Cooper, I don't see why a decently built, attractive Hyundai or Chevy 3dr subcompact can't do well too. Didn't the current generation of Accent offer a 3dr in the US? And the current generation of the Aveo has one outside NA...no idea if the '12 versions of both will have 3dr bodies outside NA. I guess the Yaris will be have the only 3dr subcompact in NA next year..

For a non-retro, race inspired look, I like these alot..they look great on the current Mustang, Camaro, and Challenger IMO..

I like those wheels..nice and retro...maybe in 19 or 20 inch.

I can't see myself in an EV...too small and too compromised.

Saw a black Regal this morning w/ dealer installed tube grille, bling wheels, etc sitting on the lot at the Buick-Cadillac store..haven't really seen very many of them on the road so far.

I was under the impression that the different nozzles were for the other direction..i.e. preventing putting gasoline in a diesel.

Saw a black Volt on the lot at the local Chevy store. Saw a black '11 Camaro convertible out driving around top down on this fine Easter Sunday.

I can only imagine what was going through Nissan rep's heads when the Rio was unveiled in the same show as their competitor. Probably trying to comfort themselves with more of that "small car buyers don't want sport or style" BS. I was looking at pics of the new Versa somewhere and realized the C-pillar and rear doors kind of remind me of the 1st Prius..ugh.

Accent is the subcompact (SonicAveo/Fiesta/Mazda2/Fit/Versa/Yaris/Rio competitor) Elantra is the compact (Cruze/Focus/Mazda3/Civic/Sentra/Corolla/Forte competitor) The subcompact and compact segments are getting crowded in the US..and I didn't even list Suzuki, Mitsubishi, VW, Subaru, etc..

These are still very mainstream and ordinary looking, IMO. And they lack the frameless door glass that was a Subaru signature detail for so long..

Saw several early Mustangs over the last 24 hours, appropriate for this time of year since last Sunday was the 17th. A sharp bright red w/ black vinyl top '65 GT coupe w/ the factory option 5 spoke mags A bright red '66 coupe w/ black door on the back of a rollback truck A bright red w/ white interior '65 convertible, top down in traffic this morning A dark red '67 coupe A black w/ silver stripes '67 coupe on the back of a 6 car carhauler last night Also saw a white '11 300C at the airport last night, first I've seen..looking sharp.

Yeah, Chrysler is the ticket. GM is out of the question due to the last 15 years of sticking it to us. I could likely live without an new El Camino, considering that Dodge is selling that cheap V8 sport truck, that I can drop into the weeds. 10+ years of Jeep ownership has made me a Mopie believer. The challenge for me will be deciding what my next new car will be, there are 4 from Chrysler that I find appealing...the Challenger, Charger, 300C, and Grand Cherokee..all are at the top of my new car shopping list.

Defining generations on these is a bit of a murky business. Holden is on the VF at this point (same vehicle basically), and the true next gen is a ways off with the possibility of a (stupid) move to FWD. Hmm..well, if the next Ute is based on the '13 Malibu, then it would be appropriate to call it El Camino, since the El Camino of '64-87 was based on the Chevelle/Malibu..

No surprise...as usual, Australia gets the good stuff, GM gives NA more 4 cyl FWD vanilla cars.

Nice..looks better than the Accent. I like the greenhouse.

+1 +2 This falls more in the ugly fish face camp along w/ the repulsive Sonata Hybrid than the happy fish faces over at Mazda..

+1. I like brushed aluminum..it's chrome inside that I find has more glare/reflection issues. I dispise carbon fiber for its repulsive look, don't like it inside or outside..it's OK on race cars, but I'd never want it on a road car. I'd like to see the SRT8 GC hardware available in a more subtle version using the interior/exterior of the Overland, for example.

Sedan greenhouse looks a lot like the Civic. No mention of the WRX or WRX sti...TBA later?

Interesting...like the profile, but the front end detailing is way over the top aggro...probably would appeal to 25 yr old gamers. I suppose about the only US market competition currently is the Hyundai Genesis coupe, but this is considerably smaller..

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