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2010 Chevrolet Tacuma

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As reported, this family hauler should be based on the Delta platform, which also underpins the Chevy Volt and Chevy Cruze. What will this new GM minivan be like? Similar in proportions to the Mazda5, this minivan will not be a reinterpretation of previous generations of GM minivans. Notice those rear doors? They look like they're hinged at the front. Rather than long and short, these two testers seem to follow the European model of a tall van with short overhangs. With murmurs this vehicle could be built alongside the Volt, are we looking at the first major hybrid-electric minivan?

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Interesting... Tacuma was the name of the Daewoo model they had in Europe and elsewhere. I would assume for NA they will call it something else (Tacuma sounds too much like Tacoma).

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Since it's Delta based, I wonder if it will eventually replace the HHR in Chevy's lineup. I thought I read somewhere that the HHR would eventually be replaced by a more contemporary vehicle that can seat up to seven people. This looks like it may possibly be that replacement.

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Since it's Delta based, I wonder if it will eventually replace the HHR in Chevy's lineup. I thought I read somewhere that the HHR would eventually be replaced by a more contemporary vehicle that can seat up to seven people. This looks like it may possibly be that replacement.

Here's the link to the article that talks about future Chevy product plans (including the HHR replacement):

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I know it may not make sense, but if this is the HHR replacement, they should keep the name HHR. It's developed a bit of a following with those who've purchased one.

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If this replaces the HHR I do not see it selling the 100,000 units a year the HHR has sold in each of the last 3 years. Yes this year also was just a few units less than 100,000 in a bad sale year.

I myself never considered a HHR till the SS and now I own one. I bought it in part because it got good milage, was fun to drive, will carry about anything I need to haul and it is not a traditional mini van. Above all most people buy the HHR because it is a good value.

Chevy need to keep the HHR as it's own identity. I would like them to move the styling a little more like the HHR Nomad show car with the more modern Malibu nose but the more 1955's roof line. Chrysler failed when it changed the PT but it still looked the same.

I work with 9 people that also own HHR's and would not buy the vehicle pictured as we all wanted something different.

Lets also face it how often does anyone need to carry 7 passengers? I rarely carry 4.

Chevy does not need to do another generic box that looks like a Mazda and 4 or 5 other vehicles.

The HHR is an easy sale just keep moving the design to a unique but stylis design. And keep it cheap.

Oh, the HHR name has nothing to do with the popularity it is all about being different and affordable. You call it what ever but it must be cool in a differnt kind of way.

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Chevy does not need to do another generic box that looks like a Mazda and 4 or 5 other vehicles.

I think the Mazda5 is anything but a generic box. It is contemporary yet unique in its own right (at least in North America). The only generic Mazda products are the rebadged Ford clone vehicles (Tribute and B-Series).

I do understand and agree with your appreciation for the current HHR's cool and distinct retro design, however.

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Well, if I ever want to own an HHR, I'd better run out and buy one soon, if this thing is its replacement. What a generic box it is... and the Mazda5 is not selling well, afaik.
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I think the Mazda5 is anything but a generic box. It is contemporary yet unique in its own right (at least in North America). The only generic Mazda products are the rebadged Ford clone vehicles (Tribute and B-Series).

I do understand and agree with your appreciation for the current HHR's cool and distinct retro design, however.

Mazda does better than most Asian import to be different but the 5 is nothing more than something to appeal to an average Caravan owner.

After reading some of the HHR web sites over the last few weeks I can onlyhear the wailing and nashing of teeth over there when this is presented as the replacment.

IF the HHR was not selling 100,000 units I could see a change to a new modern styling but to make it look like everyone else this thing will not even come close to 100,000. The different styling like it or not along with the affordable price is a badge of honor with HHR owners.

Lets face it the HHR sell great and they do it with nealy no advertising. I still have many people who think my SS is a custom because they never saw or heard of one. Now do that with this box.

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To me my HHR is my daily driver but to many it is their toy and car to fix up and play with. these people would put a poster of it on the wall. I just don't see that with this thing.

My feeling is Lutz was over ruled on this one.

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Interesting... Tacuma was the name of the Daewoo model they had in Europe and elsewhere. I would assume for NA they will call it something else (Tacuma sounds too much like Tacoma).

Yeah, seems so many journalists have their heads stuck in 1997. I'm waiting for them to announce they have spy photos of the new Chevrolet Leganza. GM already renamed the Rezzo/Tacuma the Chevrolet Vivant for new markets, and this minivan will get another new name.

This is not the HHR replacement. This is an MPV, the HHR is a smaller crossover SUV. I don't know if you'll get an actual HHR replacement, or just a new compact Chevrolet crossover (and the latter is definitely in development), but either way, this is not it.

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Oh, and ocn, expensive gas and the Kia Rondo have done wonders for Mazda5 sales, and GM is better at this segment (three-row, 7-seat compact minivans) than anyone. They didn't invent it, and they no longer have the most stylish or advanced entries (I would credit the Grand Scenic and Grand C4 Picasso there), but they lead its revival after the Japanese abandoned it, they still sell more than anyone else, and everyone else is still copying them, except for the latter two mentioned, almost slavishly. Touran, Corolla Verso, Mazda5 etc. could not be more like the Zafira without risk of legal action. At least the French alternatives show some originality. For that matter this Chevrolet shows more originality than the standard non-GM entries.

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I don't see any side mirrors on this vehicle...oh wait, there they are!

:rotflmao: HA! I thought the same thing! HOLY CRAP. Take those off the trucklet and I bet it will get 10 more MPG. Are those OUTRIGGERS for anti-rollover measures or mirrors?

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Mazda does better than most Asian import to be different but the 5 is nothing more than something to appeal to an average Caravan owner.

After reading some of the HHR web sites over the last few weeks I can onlyhear the wailing and nashing of teeth over there when this is presented as the replacment.

IF the HHR was not selling 100,000 units I could see a change to a new modern styling but to make it look like everyone else this thing will not even come close to 100,000. The different styling like it or not along with the affordable price is a badge of honor with HHR owners.

Lets face it the HHR sell great and they do it with nealy no advertising. I still have many people who think my SS is a custom because they never saw or heard of one. Now do that with this box.

dsc00336qc9.jpg

To me my HHR is my daily driver but to many it is their toy and car to fix up and play with. these people would put a poster of it on the wall. I just don't see that with this thing.

My feeling is Lutz was over ruled on this one.

I bet you are right on about Lutz being overruled on this one. Of course right now the two we see are heavily camo'd cars. Who knows what they will look like in person. I for one LOVE the HHR SS and want one very badly. They are so hot here in the midwest, that there are NO HHR's or HHR SS's on the lots within 50 miles of me for more than a day or two. In Des Moines, dealers are getting OVER STICKER for them when they hit the lots. You heard that right.

My only hope on the HHR re-make is that they make it a bit wider, a little longer and stretch the back seat a bit to make it more usable for actual family hauling abilities when needed. I would own one if they were a smidgen larger in all directions.

Glad to see your HHR SS was put back together really well.

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Well, if I ever want to own an HHR, I'd better run out and buy one soon, if this thing is its replacement. What a generic box it is... and the Mazda5 is not selling well, afaik.

Love the HHR. I don't see chevy making a mazda5 clone to replace the HHR.

Myself I would like the HHR to be a little larger, not much though. Maybe the max it should be is equiunox size.

HHR really out to be on epsilon, but then it would not be as inexpensive. catch 22.

Why GM doesn't have a simple crossover on Epsilon boggles the mind.

Mazda 5 stumbled out of the sales gate but has sold like gangbusters lately. however, it really needs better mpg if the owner is going to suffer by having a slow 4 popper to move all those people. 25mpg real world, 22 most of the time is the book i hear on the mazda 5. A FWD taurus will get you that with 263hp under the hood.

design wise, the HHR hood is too long and the vehicle could be wider with fender flares not quite so pronounced. Make the innards more spacious and lighten the pillars a bit. that's nitpicking really. HHR is shining star IMHO.

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Since it's Delta based, I wonder if it will eventually replace the HHR in Chevy's lineup. I thought I read somewhere that the HHR would eventually be replaced by a more contemporary vehicle that can seat up to seven people. This looks like it may possibly be that replacement.

That's sad...

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If this replaces the HHR I do not see it selling the 100,000 units a year the HHR has sold in each of the last 3 years. Yes this year also was just a few units less than 100,000 in a bad sale year.

I myself never considered a HHR till the SS and now I own one. I bought it in part because it got good milage, was fun to drive, will carry about anything I need to haul and it is not a traditional mini van. Above all most people buy the HHR because it is a good value.

Chevy need to keep the HHR as it's own identity. I would like them to move the styling a little more like the HHR Nomad show car with the more modern Malibu nose but the more 1955's roof line. Chrysler failed when it changed the PT but it still looked the same.

I work with 9 people that also own HHR's and would not buy the vehicle pictured as we all wanted something different.

Lets also face it how often does anyone need to carry 7 passengers? I rarely carry 4.

Chevy does not need to do another generic box that looks like a Mazda and 4 or 5 other vehicles.

The HHR is an easy sale just keep moving the design to a unique but stylis design. And keep it cheap.

Oh, the HHR name has nothing to do with the popularity it is all about being different and affordable. You call it what ever but it must be cool in a differnt kind of way.

Spot on!

The HHR is appealing because it is UNIQUE and TRULY AMERICAN in design.

GM has a real opportunity to make it a sort of halo (design and style-wise) as people move to small cars.

To throw that out the window would betypical GM, and a shame.

Just the death of one more interesting car in exchange for more euro inspired junk IMO.

And that's a very sharp HHR BTW!!!

Oh, and as for Lutz, he was "shut up and removed from power" a while back as far as I can tell. I think his death knell was the death of Zeta. The corporate bureaucracy that had been quietly lurking under the surface (but contained) finally gained enough momentum to turn the tide at GM (again) and Lutz is no more than a mouthpiece that is waiting to retire. Notice he doesn't even do many interviews anymore?

This bureaucracy is so ignorant that it can't see that it's killing itself. So, as PCS likes to say, grab some popcorn and enjoy the story of the Titanic - Detroit style.

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I know it may not make sense, but if this is the HHR replacement, they should keep the name HHR. It's developed a bit of a following with those who've purchased one.

But there's nothing "Heritage" or "Hot Rod" about it.

I think the HHR should stay what it is, a small retro entry vehicle.

As far as the minivan, at least it's more contemporary vs a regular minivan. But the Uplander does need replaced.... it should've never came out in the first place. They could've saved $$ and just gave the Venture a facelift and interior upgrade.

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I don't see any side mirrors on this vehicle...oh wait, there they are!

LMAO! Yeah those are why huge

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My feeling is Lutz was over ruled on this one.

Mr. Lutz has had a lot of great ideas and suggestions that have been consistently unraveled and derailed by corporate bean counters as well as the corporation's structural and financial demons. I haven't always agreed with everything he has suggested or done, but at least he gave the impression that the status quo at GM needed to be drastically changed.

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