Jump to content

You definitely want one...


Recommended Posts

Are they P-Zero Rossos or P-Zero Neros? I'm going to guess Rossos because the Neros are $h!ty tires.

Glad you liked it. I'd love to just drive one; those cars are sexy inside and out and have a great powertrain (on paper at least).

Link to post
Share on other sites
Are they P-Zero Rossos or P-Zero Neros? I'm going to guess Rossos because the Neros are $h!ty tires.

Glad you liked it. I'd love to just drive one; those cars are sexy inside and out and have a great powertrain (on paper at least).

You have that backward. The P-Zero Nero's are awesome tires. I have them on the GTO and they stick like glue, even under full throttle. Tirerack rated the all-season version the best ultra high-performance all-season. The P-Zero Rosso's are what they put on Cobalt SS's and they aren't rated very well on Tirerack.

As for the tires on the Saab, those are the new tires that are considered one of the best in the world, simply called P-Zero. I believe the F430, 599GTB, R8, and Gallardo use them among other supercars, so they're obviously great tires.

Link to post
Share on other sites
As for the tires on the Saab, those are the new tires that are considered one of the best in the world, simply called P-Zero. I believe the F430, 599GTB, R8, and Gallardo use them among other supercars, so they're obviously great tires.

Actually the Saab has the Neros.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Saabs of the last 5 years or so are great looking cars (some are decent before that as well). Can't really complain about turbos, either. Only things that would keep me from considering one (if I were in the market for a car) is cost of purchase and repair. Friend with a '99 saab (forget the model) decided to live with a cracked fog light, because they were over $100 each. That was the best price he could find... USED. FROM A JUNKYARD. That's crazytalk.

Of course, I'm a Saturn owner, so I'm a tightwad. lol

Link to post
Share on other sites

But but but... It's an Epsilon sedan priced like a Cadillac CTS... this can't be allowed!!! :rolleyes:

I haven't driven this version of the 9-3, but would love the chance. I think it looks fantastic and would be great to own.

Link to post
Share on other sites

The 9-3 Aero goes like it was shot out of a cannon. I could only imagine what the Turbo X is like.

Nice writeup, CD. Very fair assessment of the car. The pricing issue (as with all Saabs) is likely tied to the unfavorable exchange rate. I really wish they'd wise up to that and start making US-bound Saabs here.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Saabs of the last 5 years or so are great looking cars (some are decent before that as well). Can't really complain about turbos, either. Only things that would keep me from considering one (if I were in the market for a car) is cost of purchase and repair. Friend with a '99 saab (forget the model) decided to live with a cracked fog light, because they were over $100 each. That was the best price he could find... USED. FROM A JUNKYARD. That's crazytalk.

Of course, I'm a Saturn Opel owner, so I'm a tightwad. lol

lol....saturn will soon be opel......

Link to post
Share on other sites
SAAB speaks to a tiny niche of the market. It is not worth the money because it is not a brand that can grow much beyond what it already is without pissing off the faithful. It's GM chasing rainbows again.
Link to post
Share on other sites

Hey, CD. I know you weren't exactly very gentle on your test drive, but can you give a decent estimate as to what kind of mileage you got out out of it? Given that in my experiences GM's EPA numbers don't reflect real-world mileage (in a good way), I'm very interested in the V6's fuel economy.

Link to post
Share on other sites
But but but... It's an Epsilon sedan priced like a Cadillac CTS... this can't be allowed!!! :rolleyes:

I haven't driven this version of the 9-3, but would love the chance. I think it looks fantastic and would be great to own.

Yes! and it's a rare GM with a manual transmission, a feature GM seems to have largely forgotten on most of it's US brand models.. nice to see this coexisting with the CTS and G8 GXP... there is room for a variety of sports sedans within GM...they have more than enough pedestrian vanilla FWD models for the mainstream.

Link to post
Share on other sites

There's WAY better chance that I will own a sixteen cylinder, 452 cubic inch

powered car than the chances of me owning a modern SAAB. Really.

They don't speak to me. NO, I don't want one.

+1

Link to post
Share on other sites

PS: for $44K I would own a brand new G8 GT & a solid, drivable pre-war car with patina.

Link to post
Share on other sites

For some reason, SAAB's have had an appeal to me for a long time, since reading about their rally exploits in Road & Track as a kid... back in the '90s, on several occasions I had fun driving the '92 900 Turbo my sister had then around the Boston area, out on Cape Cod, etc.. fun, quirky car.

Not something I'd need in Arizona, but the AWD would be a nice to have if I moved to a place that has snow and ice.. I've never been much for FWD, but there are certain SAABs, Acuras, and Audis I've long liked..

Edited by moltar
Link to post
Share on other sites
It's GM chasing rainbows again.

It's funny cause it's true. You have a way with words O.B. :yes:

Link to post
Share on other sites

My wife and I really liked the 9-3 2.0t we leased from '05 - '07. It was a great cruiser and got excellent gas mileage. Still, Saab's are way overpriced, IMO, and the only reason we got it was because of a ridiculous lease deal they offered us. This thing basically competes head to head with the M3 and a nicely equipped CTS (on price, not size :) ) and I would take either of those cars before this Saab. 9-3's should start in the mid 20's and top out in the mid 30's with convertibles a couple grand more. Of course, how many Saabs are ever actually sold new? When I bought my 9-2X the salesman said he couldn't remember the last time he sold a car as opposed to leasing it. Mind you, we got both of our Saabs from one of the largest Saab dealerships in the U.S.

Link to post
Share on other sites
My wife and I really liked the 9-3 2.0t we leased from '05 - '07. It was a great cruiser and got excellent gas mileage. Still, Saab's are way overpriced, IMO, and the only reason we got it was because of a ridiculous lease deal they offered us. This thing basically competes head to head with the M3 and a nicely equipped CTS (on price, not size :) ) and I would take either of those cars before this Saab. 9-3's should start in the mid 20's and top out in the mid 30's with convertibles a couple grand more. Of course, how many Saabs are ever actually sold new? When I bought my 9-2X the salesman said he couldn't remember the last time he sold a car as opposed to leasing it. Mind you, we got both of our Saabs from one of the largest Saab dealerships in the U.S.

Very telling.

Link to post
Share on other sites

A FWD SAAB acan NOT hold a candle to a RWD BMW....

bringing the Motorsport-tuned 3 into the mix just makes the comparison that much more absurd.

Link to post
Share on other sites
My wife and I really liked the 9-3 2.0t we leased from '05 - '07. It was a great cruiser and got excellent gas mileage. Still, Saab's are way overpriced, IMO, and the only reason we got it was because of a ridiculous lease deal they offered us. This thing basically competes head to head with the M3 and a nicely equipped CTS (on price, not size :) ) and I would take either of those cars before this Saab. 9-3's should start in the mid 20's and top out in the mid 30's with convertibles a couple grand more. Of course, how many Saabs are ever actually sold new? When I bought my 9-2X the salesman said he couldn't remember the last time he sold a car as opposed to leasing it. Mind you, we got both of our Saabs from one of the largest Saab dealerships in the U.S.

if GM pulled their head out of their ass they could sell the snot out of 9-3's right now because of their awesome mpg.

but the pricing is a huge problem and the fact that they pretty much won't lease them out cheap if at all anymore.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Saab is a brand with so much potential, as evidenced by their stunner concepts... it's a shame they don't have the financial resources to turn that into reality.

People will overlook the fact the next 9-3 or whatever can't match the 3-series in driving dynamics, if Saab succeeds in making a car that looks like nothing else. Design sells, it creates buzz, and it can cover up technical shortcomings. In these times especially, people tend to like Saab's "brand values" of responsible luxury, sustainability, and so on, but what do we get instead? A 12-mpg rebadged TrailBlazer SS and a 15-mpg 9-3 2.8T.

Edited by empowah
Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.



About us

CheersandGears.com - Founded 2001

We ♥ Cars

Get in touch

Follow us

Recent tweets

facebook

×
×
  • Create New...