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Are they P-Zero Rossos or P-Zero Neros? I'm going to guess Rossos because the Neros are $h!ty tires.

Glad you liked it. I'd love to just drive one; those cars are sexy inside and out and have a great powertrain (on paper at least).

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Are they P-Zero Rossos or P-Zero Neros? I'm going to guess Rossos because the Neros are $h!ty tires.

Glad you liked it. I'd love to just drive one; those cars are sexy inside and out and have a great powertrain (on paper at least).

You have that backward. The P-Zero Nero's are awesome tires. I have them on the GTO and they stick like glue, even under full throttle. Tirerack rated the all-season version the best ultra high-performance all-season. The P-Zero Rosso's are what they put on Cobalt SS's and they aren't rated very well on Tirerack.

As for the tires on the Saab, those are the new tires that are considered one of the best in the world, simply called P-Zero. I believe the F430, 599GTB, R8, and Gallardo use them among other supercars, so they're obviously great tires.

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Damn, Saab has a ton of potential if it got the funding. It seems that Lutz and GME recognize this.

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As for the tires on the Saab, those are the new tires that are considered one of the best in the world, simply called P-Zero. I believe the F430, 599GTB, R8, and Gallardo use them among other supercars, so they're obviously great tires.

Actually the Saab has the Neros.

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Damn, Saab has a ton of potential if it got the funding. It seems that Lutz and GME recognize this.

I agree, and GME does recognize Saab's potential, CPF will fight for it should anyone in GMNA try to kill or sell it off. IMHO!

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Saabs of the last 5 years or so are great looking cars (some are decent before that as well). Can't really complain about turbos, either. Only things that would keep me from considering one (if I were in the market for a car) is cost of purchase and repair. Friend with a '99 saab (forget the model) decided to live with a cracked fog light, because they were over $100 each. That was the best price he could find... USED. FROM A JUNKYARD. That's crazytalk.

Of course, I'm a Saturn owner, so I'm a tightwad. lol

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They don't speak to me. NO, I don't want one.
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But but but... It's an Epsilon sedan priced like a Cadillac CTS... this can't be allowed!!! :rolleyes:

I haven't driven this version of the 9-3, but would love the chance. I think it looks fantastic and would be great to own.

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The 9-3 Aero goes like it was shot out of a cannon. I could only imagine what the Turbo X is like.

Nice writeup, CD. Very fair assessment of the car. The pricing issue (as with all Saabs) is likely tied to the unfavorable exchange rate. I really wish they'd wise up to that and start making US-bound Saabs here.

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Saabs of the last 5 years or so are great looking cars (some are decent before that as well). Can't really complain about turbos, either. Only things that would keep me from considering one (if I were in the market for a car) is cost of purchase and repair. Friend with a '99 saab (forget the model) decided to live with a cracked fog light, because they were over $100 each. That was the best price he could find... USED. FROM A JUNKYARD. That's crazytalk.

Of course, I'm a Saturn Opel owner, so I'm a tightwad. lol

lol....saturn will soon be opel......

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SAAB speaks to a tiny niche of the market. It is not worth the money because it is not a brand that can grow much beyond what it already is without pissing off the faithful. It's GM chasing rainbows again.
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lol....saturn will soon be opel......

I only own S-Series, Opel's got nothing on me! :neenerneener:

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Hey, CD. I know you weren't exactly very gentle on your test drive, but can you give a decent estimate as to what kind of mileage you got out out of it? Given that in my experiences GM's EPA numbers don't reflect real-world mileage (in a good way), I'm very interested in the V6's fuel economy.

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I averaged 20.1 for the week. If you drove it "normally" you'd probably get 22-24.

But this car doesn't want you to drive it normally. :D

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The ultimate Epsilon-based car, sounds like. Sounds like a fun Audi-esque GM model.

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But but but... It's an Epsilon sedan priced like a Cadillac CTS... this can't be allowed!!! :rolleyes:

I haven't driven this version of the 9-3, but would love the chance. I think it looks fantastic and would be great to own.

Yes! and it's a rare GM with a manual transmission, a feature GM seems to have largely forgotten on most of it's US brand models.. nice to see this coexisting with the CTS and G8 GXP... there is room for a variety of sports sedans within GM...they have more than enough pedestrian vanilla FWD models for the mainstream.

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I'll pass.

I had a G8 GT press car the other week and the Saab stuck to the corners way better.... :AH-HA_wink:

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There's WAY better chance that I will own a sixteen cylinder, 452 cubic inch

powered car than the chances of me owning a modern SAAB. Really.

They don't speak to me. NO, I don't want one.

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I had a G8 GT press car the other week and the Saab stuck to the corners way better.... :AH-HA_wink:

I don't mind a car that kicks the tail out from time to time.

I just find the Saab completely unappealing. Not my style in any way.

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