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Fiat Chrysler Automobiles' CEO Sergio Marchionne isn't a fan of electric vehicles, especially the idea of a Ferrari EV.

 

"With Ferrari, it's almost an obscene concept," said Marchionne.

 

A key part of the Ferrari driving experience explained Marchionne was the noise of the V8 or V12 engines. Going with a fully electric powertrain removes something important in the experience.

 

"You'll have to shoot me first," said Marchionne.

 

It is rumored that Ferrari will do more with hybrid technology in their future vehicles as a way of improving fuel economy while retaining the performance the brand is known for.

 

Source: Motor Authority


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Ignorance is Bliss and Marchionne is proof of that. Anyone who has driven a Electric race focused auto knows that he is wrong and you can have one of the most amazing experiences in an EV auto.

 

Yes Ocnblu will agree with Marchionne probably as he is all things petro, but I have to say that when the EV is done right, the overall driving experience is exhilarating and you loose nothing except some hearing loss just like the over noisy Harley Davidson bikes.

 

I doubt the V8 or V12 engine really gives that much to the experience  except for badge snobs who will say they have to have this engine to survive and be elite.

 

Which ever company brings out the right noise tuned EV will win big time.

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"noise tuned" ????

LOL agreed.  SILLIEST statement I've read in a while.

 

Haha... I've been wondering if I would ever agree with anything Serge says or does.  His past and present statements on electrification are about the only things that make sense.

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"noise tuned" ????

Yup, it is amazing but you can have a whisper silent Electric auto or you can have one that is tuned to allow the whine of the EV goes as is or as I have seen, there are those that actually tune the sound that comes from electric motors to so called enhance the experience.

 

Noise or Motor sound either way you still have a distinct sound that can be had with electric motors.

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An "Enhanced Experience" :

 

 

Used as sleep-inducing 'white noise' worldwide.

 

- - - - - 

Seriously, none of those 3 scenarios (totally silent, 'natural' electric motor sound, or 'noise tuned' electric motor) sound remotely enticing in a sports car.

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Headline: INEFFECTIVE COMPANY'S INEFFECTIVE CEO FUMES OVER LACK OF GOOD ELECTRIC CAR

Marchionne's upset that his massive company's best electric effort was the 500e, leaving FCA to be leapfrogged by everyone else. All he can do is take potshots to deflect from his company's inadequacy in the arena, and overall brand/model schizophrenia.

Ferrari will have an electric in time. Everyone else is developing them.

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World Fastest Electric Car Versus Ferrari, Pretty freakin cool.

 

 

This company is looking pretty good too for a sweet ride that is Pure Electric.

 

 

White Zombie 0 to 60 in 1.8 seconds and a 11.8 second quarter mile.

 

 

Balthazar are you saying non of these rides would interest you?

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NONE of those are 'my type' of vehicle, which comes first above the means of propulsion.
A '72 Datsun doing 11.8 in the quarter?? Not remotely interesting to me. It's a pretty gruesome 1-trick pony.

 

If you are wondering if I would take an electric motor in a -say- '59 Buick coupe and go 11.8, I would still reply 'no', as I can do much better with a Buick 7.5L V8.

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FCA is ineffective and bloated. Just ask Mary Barra or perhaps anyone involved in tracking quality ratings.

Sergio's just saltier than the ocn because his giant company's best effort was a mediocre, overpriced electric car.

He doesn't want to waste his company's money on stuff that has zero kilowatts of appeal.

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Here is a Buick that is the Ultimate Taxi with a Big Diesel Engine.

 

 

Here is an Old Buick that FCA could never touch with the crap they build.

 

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I dont know about you people, but I find electric motor noises as appealing as elcctric guitar Rock-N-Roll and American V8 rumble...

 

An electric 1970 Olds 442 could sound like a power drill and I wouldnt mind it one bit.

 

And yeah, no "noise tuned" shtye necessary with a power drill motor sound...

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I just think that if people can upload a specific soundtrack to be piped through the speakers then it has the same effect.

 

Now it's just the value associations people have with how that sound is actually produced. 

 

Then there's the issue of say BMW failing to make their fake sound, well, sound good. That's just a failure in sound choice and delivery. Not in the means of producing the engine sound itself.

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PS:

Marchionne could think its heresy and obsene and whatever else he thinks about an electric motor Ferrari, but to me its clear, he is outta touch with reality if he thinks that the future is not electrics...

 

 Harley could see a future of electric motors, that deny the Harley sound of their motorcycles.

And Harley is just about on the same playing field as Ferrari regarding name recognition and peddling stuff other than motor vehicles with their logo slapped on it and obviously iconic engine sound...therefore its a very good thing that Marchionne does not have a say in Ferrari no more...

 

You always have to look to the future...not the past to survive the future...

Its good to embrace your history, but sometimes re-inventing yourself is necessary...

A balance of both is ideal...

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I just think that if people can upload a specific soundtrack to be piped through the speakers then it has the same effect.

 

Now it's just the value associations people have with how that sound is actually produced. 

 

Then there's the issue of say BMW failing to make their fake sound, well, sound good. That's just a failure in sound choice and delivery. Not in the means of producing the engine sound itself.

I see what you are saying...

Ill add this:

Most cars are so well insulated with sound deadening materials and super duper mufflers that actually muffle and mute the idling and acceleration noises that "noise tuning" shouldnt really offend anybody in 2016 as engine sound personality is a thing of the past...

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Well you don't need an electric vehicle to have a battery per se.

 

You never know. In principle you could just have a really good capacitor, but it'd still be expensive.

 

Supercapacitors could become so good that you could store energy without the setbacks of maintaining some kind of battery chemistry and ideal operating temps...And charge in seconds.

 

Yeah. Charge in seconds....

 

https://www.quora.com/Can-the-super-capacitor-replace-the-battery

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We like the sounds V8s make because we like the sound, not because the engine makes it.

 

Really. Then some of us still, like the fact that the V8 is through its operation is making the sound - and are willing to pay for it.

 

There is nothing wrong really with piping fake noise.

 

Already we're not hearing the engine if it's on an engine dyno. We're hearing whatever the automaker now wants to be heard and then using all kinds of different tuning for other components to engineer the "real" sound.

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We like the sounds V8s make because we like the sound, not because the engine makes it.

 

Really. Then some of us still, like the fact that the V8 is through its operation is making the sound - and are willing to pay for it.

 

There is nothing wrong really with piping fake noise.

 

Already we're not hearing the engine if it's on an engine dyno. We're hearing whatever the automaker now wants to be heard and then using all kinds of different tuning for other components to engineer the "real" sound.

 

 

Already we're not hearing the engine if it's on an engine dyno. We're hearing whatever the automaker now wants to be heard and then using all kinds of different tuning for other components to engineer the "real" sound.

 

 

Yup...

 

Couldnt that also be technically called "noise tuning" ?

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"Piping engine sound", IE: creating a sound electronically that's not actually there, IMO, is akin to there being 'nothing really wrong' with this 'wood' : 

 

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or this 'scoop' :

 

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And there's not, technically, but MANY people have issues when things are obviously fake.

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      With a 350-kW charger, IONIQ 5 can charge from 10 percent to 80 percent in just 18 minutes. IONIQ 5 users only need to charge the vehicle for five minutes to get 100 km of range, according to WLTP.
      IONIQ 5 also provides an innovative V2L function, which allows customers to freely use or charge any electric devices, such as electric bicycles, scooters or camping equipment, serving as a charger on wheels.
      The V2L function can supply up to 3.6 kW of power. The V2L port is located under the second-row seats, and it can be activated when a vehicle is on. Another V2L port is located at the charging port on the vehicle exterior. Using a converter, customers can charge high-power electric equipment. The outside port provides power even when the vehicle is turned off.
      Innovative connectivity and driver assistance for safety and convenience[5]
      IONIQ 5 seamlessly integrates advanced technologies for an enhanced digital user experience. The wide, configurable, dual cockpit features a 12-inch, full-touch infotainment screen and hoodless 12- inch digital gauge cluster that can be customized to meet customers’ needs.
      For the first time in Hyundai, IONIQ 5 features an Augmented Reality Head-Up Display (AR HUD), essentially turning the windshield into a display screen.
      IONIQ 5 is also equipped with the next level of Hyundai SmartSense, advanced driver assistance system, ensuring the highest levels of safety and convenience on the road. IONIQ 5 is the first Hyundai model to offer Highway Driving Assist 2 (HDA 2). Other driving assistance systems include Forward Collision-Avoidance Assist (FCA), Blind-Spot Collision-Avoidance Assist (BCA), Intelligent Speed Limit Assist (ISLA), Driver Attention Warning (DAW), High Beam Assist (HBA), and more.
      IONIQ 5 will be available in selected regions starting in the first half of 2021.
      Dimensions
      Wheelbase
      3,000 mm
      Length
      4,635 mm
      Width
      1,890 mm
      Height
      1,605 mm
      Cargo
      Boot/trunk space
      531 L / 1591 L (when second-row seats are fully folded)
      Front trunk
      North American (NA) model: 24 L (both AWD and 2WD)
      Non-NA model: 57 L (2WD) or 24 L (AWD)
      Performance
      Platform
      Electric-Global Modular Platform
      Maximum Driving Range
      (according to WLTP)
      470~480 km
      (When pairing 2WD with 72.6-kWh battery option)
       
      Long Range
      72.6-kWh Battery
      (77.4-kWh for NA)
      AWD
      Power
      225-kW (Front and Rear combined)
      Torque
      605-Nm (Front and Rear combined)
      0-100 km/h
      5.2 seconds
      2WD 
      Power
      160-kW Rear
      Torque
      350-Nm Rear
      0-100 km/h
      7.4 seconds
       
      Standard Range
      58-kWh Battery
      AWD
      Power
      173 kW (Front and Rear combined)
      Torque
      605 Nm (Front and Rear combined)
      0-100 km/h
      6.1 seconds
      2WD
      Power
      125 kW
      Torque
      350 Nm
      0-100 km/h
      8.5 seconds
      Features (Please see additional details section below table for more information)
      Supported Charging Infrastructure
      400 V and 800 V (No need for additional adapters)
      Ultra-fast Charging
      10 % to 80 % in 18 minutes of charge
      100 km of range (WLTP) in 5 minutes of charge
      Vehicle-to-Load
      Max. Output
      3.6 kW
      Port Locations
      Inside: Under second-row seats
      Outside: vehicle charging port
      Infotainment
      Screen
      12-inch, full-touch infotainment screen
      Hoodless 12-inch digital gauge cluster
      Bluelink® connected car services
      Remote Profile Management
      Remote Start Enhancements
      Vehicle Status Notifications
      POI Send to Car Now with Waypoints
      Maintenance Alert Enhancement
      Dynamic Voice Recognition
      Safety and Convenience Features
      Forward Collision-Avoidance Assist (FCA)
      Blind-Spot Collision-Avoidance Assist (BCA)
      Safe Exit Assist (SEA)
      Intelligent Speed Limit Assist (ISLA)
      Driver Attention Warning (DAW)
      High Beam Assist (HBA)
      Surround View Monitor (SVM)
      Rear Cross-Traffic Collision-Avoidance Assist (RCCA)
      Parking Collision-Avoidance Assist (PCA)
      Highway Driving Assist 2 (HDA 2)
      Remote Smart Parking Assist (RSPA)
      Available Colors
      Exterior: Gravity Gold Matte, Shooting-Star Gray Matte, Digital Teal-Green Pearl, Lucid Blue Pearl, Atlas White, Cyber Gray Metallic, Phantom Black Pearl, Galactic Gray Metallic (not available in NA region), Mystic Olive-Green Pearl (not available in NA region)
      Interior: Obsidian Black and Dark Pebble Gray/Dove Gray, Dark Teal/Dove Gray, and Terra Brown/Mud Gray (only available in Korea)

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    • By David
      Many have heard of AI and they think Terminator. Yet AI in the computer industry has allowed us to build computers and accessories faster due to the ability of AI to sift through data faster than humans can. This brings us to how AI is helping the Auto industry transition to EV's and how battery tech will change much faster than in the last two decades.

      IBM has announced their recent battery project is developing prototypes of new faster charging batteries that are free of Nickel and Cobalt thanks to AI. It has allowed them to quickly evaluate a set of 20,000 potential compounds for use in the Battery electrolytes. This would normally take 5 years via traditional human research and yet was accomplished in nine days using AI.
      GM Ultium batteries and Panasonic batteries have reduced testing from three years to about six months. This is going from a large number of time consuming charging and discharging cycles to using AI to cover what would be done manually in three years to six months.

      Gbatteries has used AI to build faster and more reliable DC fast chargers. InoBat from Slovakian has stated that AI is helping them to boost battery density by 20% with the batteries being sold in 2023.
      VW has stated AI is helping them lay out a new roadmap of lite weight materials for auto's including their own batteries that are in development.
      Dyson has claimed that AI is how they have brought Solid State batteries to market now.
      AI is going to help usher in the next generation of not only Auto's but phones, computers, etc.  AI will touch just about every aspect of life for people.
      https://www.wsj.com/articles/electric-car-batteries-get-a-boost-from-artificial-intelligence-11604422792
      https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1130221_report-ai-will-dramatically-speed-up-battery-development-and-thus-ev-adoption
      https://na.panasonic.com/us/press-releases
    • By David
      According to Electrek web site, VW will open up their reservation system in September. Online reservations for the ID.4 EV will only require a $100 deposit. VW production of the ID.4 for European and Chinese markets has started and is on size to compete with the Tesla Y small CUV. The auto is expected to have about 250 miles of range in base form and start at $40,000. 300 miles plus for the top trim version. Production for the North American Market will start in early 2022 at Chattanooga Factory upon the construction completion of the assembly line and battery production plant. The auto has a .28 drag coefficient.
      ID.4 Concept

      https://electrek.co/2020/08/27/vw-id4-electric-suv-orders-september-deposit/
      Thanks to a Chinese web site not being secure, actual production models have been caught before the official introduction. A muscular clean CUV EV is seen here and close to the Concept.




      https://electrek.co/2020/06/17/leaked-photos-of-vw-id-4-electric-crossover-reveal-clean-design/
    • By David
      Lots of interesting stuff happening as GM by divisions starts to release more info on their EV programs.
      First is a interesting video on their Ultium batteries. This clearly shows how versatile they can build the battery packs.
      https://plants.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/bcportal.html/currentVideoId/6157651202001/currentChannelId/Most Recent.gsaOff.html
      Multiple-cell-configurations-within-Ultium-modules.mp4

      They have released a video of a side profile of the new Chevrolet Bolt morphing into the Bolt EUV. I was able to download the video and as such, way more visual detail than on the posted web sites below are showing.
      https://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/home.html
      chevrolet-bolt-euv-teaser-1598391287.mp4
      https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a33799068/chevy-2022-bolt-bolt-euv-tease/
      https://www.autoblog.com/2020/08/26/2022-chevy-bolt-euv-teaser-video/
      https://www.carscoops.com/2020/08/chevrolet-teases-2022-bolt-euv-and-ev-confirms-super-cruise-for-electric-suv/
      https://insideevs.com/news/440899/chevrolet-bolt-euv-production-summer-2021/
       
      Have to say the upcoming update to the Chevrolet Bolt and the EUV is nice looking and should sell even better than the old Bolt. Truly a much more CUV look.
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