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I see CPO Escalades are in the same price range as a new Pacifica price range of $29K to $43K.

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4 hours ago, regfootball said:

gotta compare new and new.  and then what mpg does that escalade get.

In that case the Pacifica gets better gas mileage while the Escalade has more comfort and interior room. Yet a 2 or 3 yr Lease return or what we call CPO is still pretty much a new car just discounted. Some amazing deals to be had for luxury CPOs.

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23 hours ago, dfelt said:

In that case the Pacifica gets better gas mileage while the Escalade has more comfort and interior room. Yet a 2 or 3 yr Lease return or what we call CPO is still pretty much a new car just discounted. Some amazing deals to be had for luxury CPOs.

I wouldn't be so sure about the more comfort... especially with the kids.  

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45 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

I wouldn't be so sure about the more comfort... especially with the kids.  

True, everyone does have their own preference and I am way past the kids stage now. But my adult kids do love riding in the Escalade for trips.

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The minivan w it's low floor and sliding doors seems like it would be the better family hauler.  

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don't get me wrong, an Escalade would be boss but honestly its a bit much of a beast for me i think

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4 hours ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

The minivan w it's low floor and sliding doors seems like it would be the better family hauler.  

Depends on how big the kids are. Tall kids I think would enjoy the slade better. At least mine did. :P

9 minutes ago, regfootball said:

don't get me wrong, an Escalade would be boss but honestly its a bit much of a beast for me i think

My wife thought that at first till she drove one and found it to drive as easy as a car with a much better view of the road ahead while driving. Now she cannot think of ever being in a car again as they sit too low to the ground.

I get it though, the Pacifica is a nice sweet ride, roomy and handles a family very well. Best out of the minivans I think.

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7 hours ago, dfelt said:

Depends on how big the kids are. Tall kids I think would enjoy the slade better. At least mine did. :P

 

Just a little comparison between passenger space in Escalade and Pacifica. (front is more spacious a little bit in the Escalade but rear is no comparison)

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1 hour ago, ccap41 said:

He doesn't believe those numbers are real. He never does. 

LOL, cracking jokes already on a monday. I know the minivans have more interior space for storage. Yet with that said, you are looking at two different kinds of comfort for road trips. kids versus adult and what people want and need changes as you get older or based on how you were raised.

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I don't see the visibility advantage of higher seating really holding up much longer, as more people move into crossovers and utes, effectively more vehicles are larger and taller blocking the damn view!

In a sedan:

"I hate all these damn SUVs and bricks goddamn blocking ma viehuh"

Trades to a RAM Powerwagon or token MallFinder

" Ah, I can see SOOOOO much better"

- at the cost of someone else's visibility... jackass"

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19 minutes ago, dfelt said:

LOL, cracking jokes already on a monday. I know the minivans have more interior space for storage. Yet with that said, you are looking at two different kinds of comfort for road trips. kids versus adult and what people want and need changes as you get older or based on how you were raised.

To each its own of course and everybody has its own preferences, but no matter what you say a loaded minivan with captains chairs will be significantly more comfortable for a road trip than a big SUV, even an Escalade for both kids and adults.  And if you say otherwise, it means you never rode in a minivan or just not willing to admit it.

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13 minutes ago, ykX said:

To each its own of course and everybody has its own preferences, but no matter what you say a loaded minivan with captains chairs will be significantly more comfortable for a road trip than a big SUV, even an Escalade for both kids and adults.  And if you say otherwise, it means you never rode in a minivan or just not willing to admit it.

Growing up in a large family with vans and station wagons I get where you are coming from. But then as times change and one has ability to buy a luxury SUV for road trips, one's view changes. They both have their place, my life style and what I do I could not do in a minivan. Yet with my full size SUV's I can go places that I prefer and that includes off road.

Doing 3-4 yearly road trips, I will take my Escalade on an 18hr road trip over a Pacifica or any other van, minivan. Comfort cannot be beat to me.

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4 minutes ago, dfelt said:

Growing up in a large family with vans and station wagons I get where you are coming from. But then as times change and one has ability to buy a luxury SUV for road trips, one's view changes. They both have their place, my life style and what I do I could not do in a minivan. Yet with my full size SUV's I can go places that I prefer and that includes off road.

Doing 3-4 yearly road trips, I will take my Escalade on an 18hr road trip over a Pacifica or any other van, minivan. Comfort cannot be beat to me.

Wasn't talking about your personal preferences.  As I said, to each its own and both have place for people with their own personal needs and requirements.

I was just commenting on your claims that Escalade has more space and more comfortable for grown ups than minivan, which is not entirely correct.

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10 minutes ago, ykX said:

Wasn't talking about your personal preferences.  As I said, to each its own and both have place for people with their own personal needs and requirements.

I was just commenting on your claims that Escalade has more space and more comfortable for grown ups than minivan, which is not entirely correct.

I hear ya, will have to go out and test drive a pacifica as the last minivan I was in was fine for commuting but would not want to be in it for 18hrs. This could also have to do with the sto n go seats as they are very thin and hard IMHO. I think even the current Escalade has lost some comfort in going to the thin seats.

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1 hour ago, dfelt said:

LOL, cracking jokes already on a monday. I know the minivans have more interior space for storage. Yet with that said, you are looking at two different kinds of comfort for road trips. kids versus adult and what people want and need changes as you get older or based on how you were raised.

What kind of differences for road trips are there? I haven't driven either of the vehicles but I would wager the new Pacifica is quieter and offers a softer ride than a BOF truck with a solid rear axle. 

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But, in all seriousness, you don't believe interior measurements. The Escalade is always the biggest and roomiest in every scenario.  

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14 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

What kind of differences for road trips are there? I haven't driven either of the vehicles but I would wager the new Pacifica is quieter and offers a softer ride than a BOF truck with a solid rear axle. 

I would totally disagree with you. Escalades have always been very quiet and the cadillac Magneride system makes it very smooth and comfy. The pacifica is very quiet but the Escalade is another level all together. Plenty of miles driving Escalades to know that they are a very comfortable roomy roadtrip auto.

11 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

But, in all seriousness, you don't believe interior measurements. The Escalade is always the biggest and roomiest in every scenario.  

Here you are wrong, I believe the interior measurements and then the butt in the seat test and in this case, measurements are true for the Pacifica being bigger interior than the Escalade in the second and 3rd row.

Front row, Minivans have always suffered as you have that bullet nose along with the interior design of the front footwell area that is cramped compared to a full size SUV. Especially for a large guy, I will say that the comfort of an Escalade in the front driving is a big difference over a Minivan. Pacifica is the roomiest by far in comparison to Honda or Toyota and especially Kia. Yet with that said, for me when sitting on the seat in the drivers position or the front passengers position, I do not feel as comfortable / leg roomy as I do in an Escalade.

My opinion on that, but that is how I feel when I sit in one compared to another.

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I know you'd disagree.. There is nothing better for everything than a Cadillac Escalade!! 

You're also comparing something that is like a 20k+ difference in price.

LOL just kidding... 27k vs 75k. 😂

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The biggest thing keeping me from an Escalade EXT is the fuel bill.  The current Escalades aren't that bad for what they are now that they have cylinder deactivation, but the prior model was an absolute pig when it came to MPG.   The EXTs attract me, but I know I just couldn't stomach 15 mpg highway when I know the Avalanche can do 20mpg if I'm gentle on it. 

I'd miss the power, but not that much. 

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On 6/8/2018 at 8:31 PM, regfootball said:

SIX MONTHS IN REPORT

10,000 miles + on odometer

 

LOWS

-I would like a little improvement in the console design and the amount of storage available in front for cubbies within reach.  Small glovebox is a step back from the two tier glovebox in the T&C.

-That 9th gear, it takes pigs flying and planets aligning to engage.

-having to go through 2 or 3 screen on the touch screen to turn heated seats and steering wheel on and off is ridiculous.  They need to add the switches for these on the  main panel.

 

 

Some of my comments having had ours for 2 months and not quite 2k miles:

- I agree with you on the Console.  It went backwards from the T&C in terms of storage.  Glovebox as well.

- I haven't noticed 9th gear.  I need to go through the menu and see if you can add the gear count to the display like you can on my 200.  I will say my 200 is in 9th gear a lot so I am surprised to hear you say this.

- You are probably aware of this but you know you can drag and drop app icons to the main menu bar, right?  Anything new you drag there will replace whatever icon you drop it on top of.  I plan on adjusting the menu bar by season so in the winter the driver heated seat and heated SW are right on the menu bar.

 

I will also add one more Low:

- They took away the pop out vent function on the third row windows.  This is also a step back from the T&C

Overall it is a fantastic vehicle, though.  I really enjoy ours.  We did a 300 mile or so trip last weekend that was 40% interstate (80 mph), 40% two lane highway (60 mph) and 20% city and it was showing an indicated 28 mpg and I would only expect that to get better as the engine breaks in.

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1 YEAR VANNIVERSARY!

over 17,000 trouble free miles.  Have fixed two tires for screws in both, maybe i better consider getting a spare.  Had a couple recalls done along the way.  The Apple Carplay is not working now after a phone update.  Shop says unpair phones and retry.  Haven't gotten that to work yet.  Aside from this, Carplay was working almost flawlessly, especially compared to the Malibu I drive, where it only works 1/2 the time.

This could be the best vehicle we have had.  The nerdiness of a minivan eats at me when i drive it, but as far as vans go, its the most stylish, and IMO the nicest drive.  It's a shame there is not a large crossover and large sedan on this chassis as well.  Not everyone wants a Jeep or Ram, tell that Sergio up in the clouds.

The pentastar v6 is AWESOME, GM only wishes their 3.6 was as smooth and responsive.  Gas mileage in normal weather and normal 10% ethanol tainted gas is 22-24 combined everyday driving.  On trips 25 is easy to get, we have gotten 27, 28, and 30 also.  Even loaded, the van has balls and cruises effortlessly and passes well, north of 70 mph.

The 9 speed tranny will rarely engage 9th, but miracles do happen and it does sometimes.  That actually makes a diff on FE.

The twist knob is quite functional and space efficient in a van, but i admit a small gearshift lever would be my preference, if it were a daily driver.  They need to add some way to enable manual gear control.

I think the console works ok but wish it had 4 cupholders in front and I wish the whole console was a bit more practical.  Still, not egregious.  The fold down armrests are nice, but again for a daily driver I would prefer a typical full console and nice big wide armrests.

The front seats are really comfy and supportive and fit my wideness quite well.  The opposite is the case in my Malibu, which has flimsy, narrow, insubstantial seats (with a lumbar bag that cuts into your back).  The rear sto N go are indeed a compromise for seats when it comes to adults, but if we get another of these I may look at the 8 passenger config, which has a full armrest between the seats and would add a lot of comfort back into the second row.  The Sto N go is totally worth it, you may only use it a few times, but when you do the small tradeoff in seat comfort is worth it for the cargo flexibility.

The main screen and UConnect is large and looks great and is easier to use than the GM stuff I've been in recently including my Malibu.  Something egregious is that the seat and steering wheel heat controls are only on the screen.  They really do need to have their own buttons on the dash.

The Autostop works well, it waits just a bit when stopped before it shuts off.  ANd its much quieter about that, stopping and starting, again than the Malibu. Plus, having the switch on the dash to turn off the Autostop is AWESOME.  I use that 30-50% of the time.

I felt guilty getting it, and I didn't think we needed it, but the huge moonroof is AWESOME.  It's been flawless and it really brightens up the inside of the car.  The shade part does a great job blocking the sun when you don't want it.  I'm spoiled now, I really wish my car had this big moonroof.  Now I am thinking a Regal TourX with the big moonroof over a sportback with the small roof may be the way to go.

Really sucks it seems like they are trying to kill off Chrysler........

 

 

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