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The Pilot and Passport come standard with V6 engines and for little extra money, adaptive cruise and other safety features not found on the Chevy until you plunk down 50g. Up against a Passport, the Blazer is uncompetitive even at the lower price range.

• The Lasalle brand was created to sell at a price point lower than Cadillac that Cadillac actually manufactured, right? • "actually manufactured" - what? LaSalles were not built by Cadillac. Or are you saying 'LaSalles sold cheaper than Cadillac did'? • The brand stopped being produced because of WW2, right? But when WW2 ended, Buick just just took over that spot, right? • Not quite, no. There was no '41 LaSalle, and it wasn't WWII that did it in. LaSalle was outselling both Cadillac & Lincoln in '40. If you look at the years '36-40 (discounting the recession year of '38), Cadillac's volume was pretty consistent at around 12K units/year. LaSalle's varied a lot more, but seemed to be on the upswing- over 20K in '37, 39 & 40. Buick did overlap LaSalle in price range at the end of it's run, so it did have a dampening effect from below in that regard (LaSalle still sold very well- best year in '37). But Cadillac also edged downmarket a bit here by pricing the '41 Series 61 notably less than it's entry '40 car, and into the prior LaSalle price range (the lower 50%, too). Unlike the Packard 120 (that arguably saved Packard, tho at a terminal cost in the long run), the Series 61 was of no degradation to the brand's image, and was not heavily promoted. Volume was very low within the Cadillac brand. By the last few years, LaSalle was using Cadillac engines IIRC, and the decision was to 'enfold' LaSalle into Cadillac. I'd have to bone up on the back story, but I believe there was some concern LaSalle was grabbing a bit of the Cadillac spotlight, as it were. In this era, Cadillac was still firmly holding the 'SOTW' banner high. It's not viable to compare immediate pre- and post-war sales volume, too many strong variables involved, but Cadillac shot up to 61K in 1947.

Very cool, good news especially for those that might loose jobs from Ford or GM, maybe they can get a job at FCA.

The cheapest Pilot that gets a V6(standard equipment) and AWD is $33,350. At Chevy to the cheapest V6 with AWD costs you $37,195.

Alas, the world is full of such uniformed, clueless people...and this is an enthusiast page, so we are aware of common platforms...I have no interest in what the general public think about anything...

Should have stuck to coffee mills. Seriously, what does anyone expect them to bring to the market that's not already here 25 times over? Yet another plate of generic, plasticized, alpha-numeric FWD 4-cyl/ hybrid/ eventual EV sedans and CUVs? Isn't there already an oversaturation of CUVs and a increasingly rejected sedan pool? And it's not from India or China, so it'll be positioned upscale, price-wise. The '19 508 starts at $35K in the UK, the (0-60 in 8 seconds) GT starts at $48K. They'll be more here. Who's been out there in the US market, wringing their hands/ praying on their knees that their sedan needs would ONLY be satisfied if peugeot was available?? Drew- do you in any way feel there's a shortage of brands/models on the USDM?

What a colossal waste of time.

Wait- is it all about HP? Or is it all about torque? Where & when does HP/liter enter into it? And how does one weigh those things against sales? Gets confusing, doesn't it? That's why I like to blindly accept whatever slop a brand shovels forth, as long as it's the SAME, ONE brand. Keeps my head-lid from getting too sweaty.

No, this is all Jeep/Ram/Dodge news for now.

Who knows...even in the ancient black & white world GM did have some body and platform sharing between divisions.

I agree with @balthazar. What exactly is the point in an already flooded market full of boring rolling applicances? On top of that, it’s Peugeot, which has about a good a record of fond memories as Fiat did 30-40 years, which is next to zilch.

Sold, looks like it will fit our rear-facing car seat no problem

I don't know, doesn't look like it has enough rear legroom for you...;)

This thing is a joke. And it's yet another mediocre GM offering in what is becoming a quite extensive list of mediocre new GM offerings. I feel like they are really losing touch and are on the brink of a repeat of the bailout days. These borderline luxury segment prices for mainstream offerings are comical. Especially for a brand that actually has luxury nameplates within the corporate umbrella.

That is an incredibly sharp car.

Musk needs to be on Ritalin.

1 of reputedly 2 '58 Plymouths, this one surprisingly a Belvidere vs. a Fury, wearing FUEL INJECTION emblem on the front fender. Original owner had it for a few decades, put over 100K miles on it. Whereabouts today: unknown. 2nd car was reportedly smashed while still relatively new. - - - - - Original '58 300-D FI car, converted over to 2x4 carbs, but owner retained not only the iriginal FI set-up, but picked up a 2nd set-up. Note FI emblem on spare tire cover. Reportedly, (57) 300-D FI cars were built. These set-ups are outrageously expensive if you can find one. Reportedly, a NOS '58 Dodge D-501 FI emblem sold online for $1000. The induction set-up might be worth $10K (I have no idea- not enough market info to establish; they probably sell privately among the model enthusiasts.)

uh... you can. It comes on all trims except the base model.

Foolish. This will inevitably turn out to be a wasted effort. It takes years and years to establish brand recognition and cachet, and therefore demand. And to build an effective dealer network. And they are mounting this undertaking at time while the car industry is more precarious than ever, and we are on the downside turn of the economy. Makes 0 sense.

I'm almost 100% onboard with you here. I think the ATS was a very nicely done product/design, but I agree that Cadillac should NOT be in this segment- same for the XT4. If nothing else- they're too small for 'Cadillac's. This is why I've been vehemently hopeful that the downturn in the sedan segment would end up with the cancellation of the CT4. Cadillac doesn't have the volume to spread down to the ATS level and still justify the investment, I would have to guess. And while I'm sure the XT4 is generating profit (ATS also), I still believe that Cadillac's market position should 'prevent' them from going there. While the XT5 I'll allow, I would have cast my vote to roll the XT4 money into the XT5 & the 3-row XT5 (XT6). And that's also where I think Cadillac should have gone- made the XT6 an 'XT5 ESV'. WTH is it a completely new design?? The proliferation of so many models per brand cannot continue long-term, ESPECIALLY when you have a reputed upcoming period of EV transition, where the IC & EV version of the same brand/segment share so little. Pare down the lineups.

I'm not sure what they can do to stand out in a crowded market. Citroen or DS would have been a better choice for emphasizing the 'Frenchness'...Citroen today, though, doesn't have the weird factor that was their strength in the past. Other than VW, there aren't any non-premium mainstream European brands in the US these days, so Peugeot could fit in that way, as an alternative to VW or the mainstream Korean and Japanese brands....but with what hook to make it stand out?

IDIOT!, The board needs to remove his accounts. I would even say they need to consider removing him from the role of CEO. He clearly is a smart man but has no self control over what and how he affects others. Musk really makes me have no desire for any Tesla product. I really do wonder how long reservation holders will wait or if they will before they move onto other products as other OEMs start to deliver their EVs. ? Musk is screwing the company rather than focusing on growing and building it as a profitable long range company.

Yeah, but the Blazer is a base 4-cylinder. The point was that when you put the same equipment in the vehicles, they cost the same money. That shouldn't be... Cadillac still has a nicer interior (even if I don't personally care for the design) and more prestige. It should cost more and the Chevy should cost less.

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Was checking out a Germany News Show that was discussing the crazy American Politics and the Lady said in German, which was auto translated into CC English: "In America you call it the Alt Right" In Germany we call it "Why Grandpa lives in Argentina now and does not visit" I have to say, watching some of the English Europe News shows with their editorial of what goes on is just too funny. I also loved the how many in Europe feel Britain Elite screwed the population with the Brexit vote referring to it as playing Russian Roulette with a 9mm that has blanks along with bullets but has said it will not really hurt when the blanks go off in your mouth. BCC is just cracking me up this morning.

Wow. A Tacoma that does not measure up. What's next: a lame Tundra? A pitiful 4Runner?

The poorly tuned dynamics of these have never even lived up to the previous gen's 4.0L & 5-speed. Not one review praises the current Tacoma, and it usually brings up the back of the pack. Strange for sure, "for a Toyota". All the smaller trucks are interesting. This one, most of anything, needed a reset to the engine/transmission calibration and features. Steve Hammes reviewed it the best (as a previous gen owner): https://testdrivenow.com/2019-toyota-tacoma-video-review/

Well I mean the Blazer is basically a Camaro body on an Acadia. I am sure that GM had plenty of Camaro bodies sitting around that needed a chassis. Voila! I would bring back rebadging. And then I would bring back something a helluva lot worse than rebadging.

That's to die for!

Fiat-Chrysler announced a $4.5 billion investment today to build a new assembly plant in Detroit and add production at five existing facilities in Michigan. The move will increase capacity for Jeep, Ram, and Dodge Durango. $1.6 billion will go to the Mack Avenue Engine complex to convert the site into a manufacturing facility for the next-generation Jeep Grand Cherokee and an all-new three-row full-size Jeep SUV. This will create 3,850 new jobs. $900 million will go to Jefferson North for retooling and modernization for production of the Dodge Durango and next generation Jeep Grand Cherokee. This will create 1,100 jobs. The investment into Warren Truck increases to $1.5 Billion for the production of the Jeep Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer, plus continued production of the Ram 1500 Classic. This will create 1,400 new jobs. In addition to the plant investments, FCA has announced that future Jeep products will be electrified. All three facilities will be able to produce plug-in hybrid versions with fully electric model capability in the future. The project is contingent on land acquisition near the Mack Avenue plant. FCA plans to move quickly and start construction on the new facility in late Q2 2019. When complete, the facility will be the first new vehicle assembly plant built in the City of Detroit since 1991. The Mack Ave I plant currently builds the 3.0, 3.2, and 3.6 liter Pentastar V6. That production will move to the Dundee Engine Plant. The plan would bring around 6,500 total jobs to the region. FCA Press Release on Page 2 FCA to Expand Production Capacity in Michigan to Grow Core Brands, Electrify Jeep® Vehicles $4.5 Billion to Build New Assembly Plant in Detroit and Add Production at Five Existing Michigan Facilities, Creating Nearly 6,500 Jobs FCA total committed investments in the U.S. grow to nearly $14.5 billion since 2009, with nearly 30,000 jobs created to date Investment would be next step in Company’s U.S. industrialization plan, announced in 2016 to expand Jeep® and Ram brands Introduces two new Jeep-branded “white space” products in key market segments Enables electrification of new Jeep models $1.6 billion investment would convert Mack Avenue Engine Complex into manufacturing site for next-generation Jeep Grand Cherokee and an all-new three-row full-size Jeep SUV, creating 3,850 new jobs $900 million investment at Jefferson North to retool and modernize plant for continued production of Dodge Durango and next-generation Jeep Grand Cherokee with 1,100 new jobs expected Warren Truck 2017 investment increases to $1.5 billion for production of all-new Jeep Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer, as well as continued assembly of Ram 1500 Classic with addition of 1,400 new jobs All three assembly sites would also produce plug-in hybrid versions of their respective Jeep models with flexibility to build fully battery-electric models in the future Sterling Stamping and Warren Stamping plants to receive more than $400 million total investment to support additional production, potentially creating about 80 new jobs at Sterling $119 million investment to relocate Pentastar engine production currently at Mack I to the Dundee Engine Plant; production at Mack would end by Q3 2019 Projects contingent on land acquisition and the negotiation of development incentives with the cities of Detroit, Sterling Heights, Warren, Dundee and state of Michigan City of Detroit has 60 days to deliver on commitments outlined in Memorandum of Understanding related to Mack and Jefferson North projects February 26, 2019 , London - Fiat Chrysler Automobiles N.V. (NYSE: FCAU / MTA: FCA) confirmed today plans to invest a total of $4.5 billion in five of its existing Michigan plants, and to work with the city of Detroit and state of Michigan on building a new assembly plant within city limits. The move would increase capacity to meet growing demand for its Jeep® and Ram brands, including production of two new Jeep-branded white space products, as well as electrified models. The proposed projects would create nearly 6,500 new jobs. The plant actions detailed in today’s announcement represent the next steps in a U.S. manufacturing realignment that FCA began in 2016. In response to a shift in consumer demand toward SUVs and trucks, the Company discontinued compact car production and retooled plants in Illinois, Ohio and Michigan to make full use of available capacity to expand the Jeep and Ram brands. Those actions have resulted in the recent launches of the award-winning all-new Jeep Wrangler and all-new Ram 1500, and the introduction of the newest member of the Jeep family, the all-new Jeep Gladiator, at the 2018 Los Angeles Auto Show. “Three years ago, FCA set a course to grow our profitability based on the strength of the Jeep and Ram brands by realigning our U.S. manufacturing operations,” said Mike Manley, Chief Executive Officer, FCA N.V. “Today’s announcement represents the next step in that strategy. It allows Jeep to enter two white space segments that offer significant margin opportunities and will enable new electrified Jeep products, including at least four plug-in hybrid vehicles and the flexibility to produce fully battery-electric vehicles.” The city of Detroit has 60 days to meet the terms of a Memorandum of Understanding, which requires the acquisition of property critical to the execution of the Mack project. The additional investments are subject to the successful negotiation and final approval of development packages with the state and other local governments. Plant Investment Details FCA would invest $1.6 billion to convert the two plants that comprise the Mack Avenue Engine Complex into the future assembly site for the next-generation Jeep Grand Cherokee, as well as an all-new three-row full-size Jeep SUV and plug-in hybrid (PHEV) models, adding 3,850 new jobs to support production. The Company intends to start construction of the new Detroit facility by the end of Q2 2019 with the first three-row vehicles expected to roll off the line by the end of 2020, followed by the all-new Grand Cherokee in the first half of 2021. Also as part of this announcement, the Jefferson North Assembly Plant would receive an investment of $900 million to retool and modernize the facility to build the Dodge Durango and next-generation Jeep Grand Cherokee. FCA expects to create 1,100 new jobs at Jefferson North. The reborn Mack facility would be the first new assembly plant to be built in the city of Detroit in nearly three decades. In 1991, Jefferson North was the last new assembly plant built in the city. When complete, Mack would join Jefferson North as the only automotive assembly plants to be located completely within the city limits of Detroit. The Pentastar engines – the 3.6-, 3.2- and 3.0-liter – currently built at Mack I would be relocated to the Dundee Engine Plant as part of a $119 million investment. Pentastar production at Mack I would end by Q3 2019. Mack II has been idle since it ceased production of the 3.7-liter V-6 in September 2012. FCA also confirms the investment at Warren Truck to retool for production of the all-new Jeep Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer, announced in 2017, along with their electrified counterparts, would increase to $1.5 billion. Production is expected to launch in early 2021. In addition to the new Jeep models, the plant would continue building the Ram 1500 Classic, which is being extended to meet market demand. It is expected that 1,400 new jobs would be added. As a result of this investment announcement, production of the all-new Ram Heavy Duty will continue at its current location in Saltillo, Mexico. To support the additional production, the Company’s Warren Stamping (Warren, Michigan) and Sterling Stamping (Sterling Heights, Michigan) plants would receive investments of $245 million and $160 million, respectively, with Sterling Stamping expected to add more than 80 new jobs. This investment is part of the Company's capital spending plan presented in June 2018. Realignment of FCA U.S. Manufacturing Operations Over the past two years, FCA has realigned production at four plants in Illinois, Ohio and Michigan to increase capacity for the Jeep Cherokee, Jeep Wrangler and Ram 1500 light-duty truck, and created additional manufacturing capacity for the Jeep Gladiator in Ohio. The investments included: $350 million in the Belvidere Assembly Plant (Illinois) to produce the Jeep Cherokee, which moved from Toledo, Ohio, in 2017. More than 300 new jobs were added to support production, which launched in June 2017. $700 million in the Toledo Assembly Complex (Ohio) to retool the North plant to produce the next-generation Jeep Wrangler. Approximately 700 new jobs were added to support production, which began in December 2017. $1.48 billion in the Sterling Heights Assembly Plant (Michigan) to build the next-generation Ram 1500 truck, adding more than 700 new jobs. Production of the new truck began in March 2018. Production of the Ram 1500 Classic continues at Warren Truck (Michigan). $273 million in the south plant of the Toledo Assembly Complex to prepare the facility to produce the all-new Jeep Gladiator. The new truck is scheduled to launch in the first half of 2019. In total, FCA has committed to invest nearly $14.5 billion in its U.S. manufacturing operations, creating nearly 30,000 new jobs since June 2009. View full article

I'll have an article up in a bit, but the long story short is that another 3-row crossover was just spied for Buick.... so now Chevy, Buick, and Cadillac will each have two versions of the platform. I'm still thinking there will be a GMC larger than the Acadia eventually and Cadillac will likely get a third version in an XT7. Ugh....

Maybe more reliable...the Korean products tend to be more simpler and more reliable than the infinitely complex Germans.

The difference between Fiat and Peugeot though is that Peugeot will be bringing much more mainstream and larger vehicles to the U.S.... I'm not sure Fiat is an apt comparison in this case. It's probably going to be closer to Kia who led their entry in the US with a small SUV. People in the U.S. don't want small cars... witness Fiat, Mini, Smart, and Scion. It doesn't matter the origin of the brand.

Cadillac is not..well was not, your average luxury brand. It was much more than that. The Lasalle brand was created to sell at a price point lower than Cadillac that Cadillac actually manufactured, right? The brand stopped being produced because of WW2, right? But when WW2 ended, Buick just just took over that spot, right? And Cadillac just continued on being THE Standard of the World and in North America at least, was even more prestigious that Rolls Royce right? Even producing a model that cost more to buy than Rolls Royce, right? I mean, V16 Cadillacs of the 1930s were always in that Rolls Royce territory, along with Deusenbergs but after WW2, Cadillac was very much alone in that regard, right? I mean, America was just about the only country that was not exactly decimated by WW2 and thrived 10 fold after, right? Leaving Cadillac and with Lincoln, to be the choice for the world's most rich and powerful. And those folks were in America for the most part, right? JUST because the 1960s happened and that was the start for GM going haywire with all the brand overlapping and it went out of control in the 1970s and by the 1980s is was too late for Cadillac to right the ship that in 2019 going forward that Cadillac HAS to have a Cimarron sedan and Cimarron CUV in their line-up just to be like every other luxury brand does it today, right? I want Cadillac to BE the Standard of the World. Doing what other luxury brands like Acura, Lexus, BMW, Audi, Mercedes, Jaguar does it, does NOT mean that Cadillac NEEDS to. Rolls and Bentley are in the boutique level of luxury. Top top top tier. Ferrari and Lamborghini are boutique sports car makers that will be producing boutique SUVs... Porsche WAS a boutique sports car maker and now has become a full fledged SUV maker. Not even a boutique SUV maker as their Macan is based off of VW bones and sold in mainstream levels of sales in that slightly higher than Chevy Blazer prices... Im sure there is a spot where Cadillac could and SHOULD thrive in. Somewhere where a Porsche Panamera resides in no lower and for now, as high as a Mercedes S Class Maybach. Until Cadillac gets enough steam to go higher than that. Of course awesome cars and cuvs with 50 000 dollar price tags from Cadillac could be sold, but those gotta be the best of the best vis-a-vis the competition. That means no lease queens with 2.0T engines. That means ATS V as THE base ATS and as the lowest Cadillac cars and CUVs go with luxury interior and performance. That means the CT5 should be at the very least a V sport in conception. As a base vehicle. THAT is what I envision Cadillac to be. I dont want Cadillac to be the American version of the European version of BMW or Mercedes Benz. I want Cadillac to be...CADILLAC.

Neither... DS is the best of the PSA lineup... it's premium Citroën... kinda like a Denali. It really depends on what they bring over. If they bring over the lower end of the Peugeot line, I don't see them taking hold unless they price them like Volkswagens. Priced right, I think they could take on VW and Mazda just fine. There is also a report out today that PSA make a huge profit last year, including a profit on Opel.... something GM was never able to do, due to their crazy accounting habits.

I made a quick, dramatic post about what vehicles and markets Id want Cadillac to be in without really thinking about it too deeply, but yeah, what you said here is what I believe in as well.

I don;t even see the 2.5L when I look at these vehicles. V6 only.. and that's the only metric I've used in pricing. I'm not going to sit here and dictate limitations on a mainstream brand. On Caddy.. yeah.. I say sure limit it to forced induction only. On a Chevy... no.. choices are better. YES!!!? Love it that someone else remembers the companion brands. Marquette/ Buick, Lasalle/Caddy.. Viking/Olds, Pontiac/Oakland

Quebec has NEVER mirrored France. The people have NEVER wanted even to be, French...fromm France. The people are very quite comfortable in being French Canadian with our, (yes, even I Im Greek, I see myself as a Quebecois) own French (Quebecois) culture that is...Canadian... The love of hockey. Yes its a Canadian thing, but its a religion here. The Quebecois were the first in North America to denounce religion...to distance religion from politics and public affairs. Therefore hockey remains the sole religion. The French Canadians have adopted mainly American sports like baseball. Curling is not a thing in Quebec. Baseball is. Football too. Soccer aint a thing here. We follow it as there are many Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Greek, Irish, Mexican folk, but baseball, hockey, football (yes the NFL) still has a stronger following than soccer. As much as Montreal is very European in many regards, its American too. But Montreal prides itself of being both. Quebec city prides itself being of French settlers, but its QUEBEC City...not a French from France city. Quebec has always wanted to speak French...in THEIR province. Speak English but not to have the English dictate to them in THEIR province what to do... France is nowhere mentioned in Quebec affairs. While some France cultural aspects along with European ones are quite apparent in Quebec, like alcohol drinking at the age of 18 in bars or closing time for bars being 3:00 AM or sex not being such a taboo... prostitution not being frowned upon, pimping yes, not prostitution per se...Quebec laws balance European way of life as much as North American... And I could go on, but it is a car forum... I just wanted to make that clear. That French Canadians LOVE being Canadian being French Canadian, in North American having their own little piece of Earth called Quebec.

Let me guess. Quebec is one of those provinces? Quebec does buy more small imported vehicles than any other province and the French population might adopt Peugeot as PSA is...from France. It may be a cultural thing now that the Quebec people have slowly accepted their Frenchness as for the longest time, the French Canadian Quebecois hated France for ditching them in North America. Some cars and CUVs that they sell are attractive, but relying on one province to do you success in North America is foolish as I dont think the other 3 Canadian provinces and the 15 American states gives a shyte for French cars.

Yes. I could agree to that. I cant disagree because it really is the truth. That "brands overlap brands & models overlap models. It's the way the industry has been for decades." Was it a smart move on Chevy's part to introduce the Impala and the way Chevy sold the Impala with all that class and "luxury" features it had? Over 13 million sold making it the highest selling Chevy model. The answer is clearly yes! My beef, if its not already clear, is not that Chevy is aiming that high. Im good with it! My beef is with Buick not focused properly and their product line is suffering for it. My other beef is that Cadillac is aiming TOO low. I dont mind if they do go low somewhat, since GM does not have the Pontiac and Oldsmobile filler brands anymore, but to encroach Chevy levels of price, not a good thing. Again, Ill bring up ATS and XT4. Cadillac does NOT need this. Chevy could handle that part. BLAZER anybody???!!! Camaro anybody? If Cadillac wants a small performing RWD car, maybe the ATS-V Sport with a TTV6 400 horsepower that the V currently has SHOULD be the LOWEST ATS it offers and the full out V should be the V8 that the Camaro ZL1 offers... Lease queen ATS with the 2.0T should NOT even be a thought for Cadillac dealerships. BUICK could handle the lease queen 2.0T ATS level vehicles... XT4? Same thing... Cadillac does not need this... The problem with this is that BMW and Audi and Mercedes has this world wide. That world wide, BMW, Audi and Mercedes Benz sell lower market vehicles, but these lower market vehicles are NOT sold as entry level luxury or luxury. Those models are really sold as econobox cars. Cadillac's strategy to emulate that is doing it wrong... Therefore, if Cadillac wants to sell a bazillion 2 Series and 3 Series econobox competitor cars in Europe and in China, that Cadillac has to sell itself as an entry level brand...there, and here... But Cadillac was NEVER that. Therefore Cadillac should just cut that crap out! No need for Cadillac to overlap Chevrolet... THAT is how I sees it. ATS, XT4, XT5 is just Cadiallc overlapping Chevrolet. I dont sees it as the Blazer overlapping Cadillac. I sees the XT5 overlapping the Blazer...not a good thing for Cadillac!

Interesting comparison of an Early production #89 and a late production #78712. Interesting comparison 18 min video. Clearly they cheapened things up moving forward. Very noticeable.

Why? At least it's better than the Chinese cars. Peugeot has been building cars for a long time.

I really think this is the concensus of this thread.. That Chevy should be a discount brand offering everything the other makes do but cheaper because it's GM. I showed even that the Edge is pretty expensive. It's the same bull people pushed for Caddy.. That the CTS, for instance, was only great if it were a tweener, offering more for less than the Germans, but it still better compete or beat them.

Yeah! GMC Acadia and Buick Enclave. It seems like the Cadillac XT5 and soon to be XT6 is the Pontiac Lemans, 4 door Bonneville and Grand Prix while the GMC Acadia would be the Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme or something like that... The only cure for that would be to cut Buick loose. GMC, as long as GMC is quite different in philosophy than Chevy and Cadillac, which they are, then it be fine. But it seems like Buick is lost in space somewhere. Chevy is encroaching its territory from below while Cadillac is encroaching its territory from above.

How I see the price situation with the Blazer vis-a-vis the Cadillac XT5 Cadillac is trying to go downmarket to sell higher volumes. The ATS...the base price of an ATS is lower than the highest trim Malibu...has the same 2.0T engine...OK, one is FWD and the other is RWD. Does that really make that much of a difference when most folk either dont care or dont even know what the difference is? Chevrolet, more like GM, is trying to fill a void in the mid level of price for the lower end brands, ie Chevrolet, when Pontiac and Oldsmobile are no longer in existence. This Blazer could have been a G-Body equivalent back in the day. I see the Blazer as it being a G-Body equivalent. Back in the day there was a Malibu, and Monte Carlo and the Monte Carlo came in "luxury" LS trim or "muscle car" SS trim. The Malibu was a coupe or 4 door family haluer that had a V8 option making it a "muscle car" on the cheap. Then there was Pontiac with their Lemans coupe and 4 door Bonneville and the Grand Prix. At a higher price than the Chevys. Then there was Oldsmobile and the Cutlass and Buick with their Regal... Cadillac did not even play in this market. Well...The XT5 is what the Cutlass and Regal was and the Blazer is what the Monte Carlo SS and the Grand Prix were. And this is why there is an overlap in price with a Chevy and Cadillac. Ive complained about this before, but not on Chevy. But on Cadillac. For me, its fine that Chevy is aiming high in that price range. For me, I do not want Cadillac to be aiming that low. I have a problem for Cadillac playing in the 40 000-55 000 dollar price range. I want Cadillac ONLY to be at the 60 000 dollar price range and up.

If you were to BUY any of these, you would need to be committed to an asylum. Real world transaction prices and method is key. The point the "higher end" Cadillac ends up costing less, no matter what way you cut it, is key. No one buys the base. And, being GM, even when you're at Cadillac level...you're still not getting features standard on a Corolla. Safety stuff? Blind spot? "Our focus groups say people don't want that stuff". The base FWD cloth 2.5L Blazer is not going to be the seller. There's so many options on the market right now, unless you get a $10k GM Card bonus randomly...and have to have a squat Chevy crossover, keep shopping. This will be an interesting one. Every time any new product comes out it's almost always expensive, YES. But for this combo of vehicle...does anyone even care about it in the first place...

Maybe..2008-2009 was a really bad time for the auto industry... they were barely hanging on then.

Yes a loaded RS towards the top equaling a base XT5. The point being is many of us see no value in that Blazer at that price point when you can get an AWD XT5 loaded almost identically that has a nicer interior / exterior package for less coin. That is the only reason of bringing this up. As has been pointed out my friend, many will not cross shop Chevrolet and Cadillac, but a few will and with that, there are better options out there than this Blazer. End result is there are Baked Potatoes and there are Twice Baked Potatoes. It is all about choice and those of us car nuts see better option with the Twice Baked Potato even when it is the entry level than the regular baked potato.

Maybe that dealership relocated to Washington due to lack of interest by Montrealers for Opel vehicles...

Mercedes was the first car? Lol no. 1803