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Smooth move GM. Cut out the top of the line sedan that you never bothered to properly market after millions spent developing it. The good news, though, is that it will lead to some smoking deals on a nice ride. Yeah, just skip over the fact that more than half of those S Class sales were fleet sales. I do agree about the XT6 and Omega platform though. Should have happened but the GM bean counters and Barra have their heads still stuck up their own asses. Just baffling to let that happen with Cadillac. Just give me a Blackwing CT6 and call it a day.

Mary Barra is NOT the problem. Neither are federal regulations. The issue is simple: most people are simply NOT buying new cars (with a few exceptions) ANYMORE. The Market is saturated with CUVs, SUVs, and pickup trucks because that is what the market wants. Period End of Story. Buick as a CUV-only brand almost guarantees its survival in the USA. GMC as a SUV/CUV brand (pickups too) guarantees its survival. The only thing that would make NEW CAR buyers switch back to sedans is $5 a gallon of gas happens again and that it last for at least two years (CA: $6.50 and up!) Everyone who is shedding a tear for the lack of sedans should ask themselves one question: What is your new next sedan purchase within the next eighteen months? Remember: Money talks. You know the rest.

Yeah, the 3.0TT is very quick as well drove one back in 2016 when they first came out. CT6 as a whole drives like a much smaller car, but still feels commanding enough on the road, pretty amazing really. Blackwing literally puts you back in the seat though, can definitely feel the G forces at work. Tom Good was the engine builder on this one, would tell him good work Mr. Good if I could. LOL!

You mean like this one? Was so freaking badass. Blackwing angry beast cold start. Just got back from driving it. No turbo lag at all pulls hard all the way to lets just say maybe triple digits swiftly haha. Paddle shifters are pretty sweet new 10 spd is butter smooth but quick, a lot of car for $100k. This dealer just got six in literally two weeks ago already sold three of them have eight more coming in at least two of those are pre-sold one is fully loaded Platinum with Super Cruise 2.0. Wake up GM bean counters, people still want these cars if even just a limited build of the performance V Series line! 2019 CT6-V Blackwing cold start.mp4 2019 CT6-V Blackwing animated gauge cluster.mp4 2019 CT6-V Blackwing animated gauge cluster.mp4 2019 CT6-V Blackwing animated gauge cluster.mp4

Mercedes has sold over 500,000 of the current S-class world wide, so it isn’t such a small volume. XT6 should have been an Omega platform crossover, I agree with you there and probably they could have made 2 crossovers on Omega to keep the platform viable.

99% of the buyers probably won't care or notice if it's a V6 or V8, and as long at lasts 3 years for a lease that will be fine for most consumers....yes, enthusiasts might prefer a V8, but most of the market aren't enthusiasts...

I have some serious doubts that the new Escalade is going to go to the next level like the Navigator did in the most recent iteration. I just no longer have the confidence that GM will do the right thing. Dropping the Blackwing from the option sheet on the Escalade is what convinced me of that.

Very true...the masses that lease generic CUVs are the core of the market. GM is focusing on vanilla lease appliances, trying to be like Toyota. Vehicles so boring that most will not be remembered in 5-10 years. And they are wasting names that had some potential like Trailblazer and Blazer on generic CUVs; what if the Ford Bronco is successful? GM has nothing like that and is unlikely to do anything like that because it doesn't fit the transverse engine generic mediocre configuration... I suspect the CT4 and CT5 are doomed also...

I read about Holden this morning and now this. What is wrong with GM? They cannot get anything right, out on time , or be competitive. How did so a mighty storied company be cut down to what it is now? Killing those brands solved no problems. It exposed the many issues of GM. It left many countries globally too. Buick is now an suv/crossover brand in the United States. Cadillac after ten years is still not fixed. I guess the bigger issue is how do you fix all of GM? What is wrong with GM? It is getting harder for enthusiasts to support GM. It is sad when you say "they make nothing for me". Sad truth is... they do not. I guess the enthusiast are not the the majority and we are the minority. Sad indeed....

MB has some sort of 'under the table' set-up where half the incentive is factory and the other half goes thru the dealer. At one point the factory was giving like 6K off, but the actual purchase price ended up being like 13K off (s-class).

no she is the problem if all that is being offered to the market is 1.3 litre subcompact crossovers. i have no problem with the market switch from sedans to crossovers, my beef is the regulations and side agendas that force the auto industry to offer smaller and smaller vehicles with tiny buzz bomb engines as the norm, and if you don't buy that, you get killed with a huge upcharge, just if you want a v6, good acceleration, and some elbow room. cadillac is a great example. absolutely cadillac took a sales hit on their sedans because of their size. I can't tell you how many times i heard people at auto shows looking at cadillacs say (regarding the CTS and ATS) too small, not big enough, uncomfortable. etc. Part of luxury is ample accommodations. Of course you are going to pick an XT5 if you are dropping 50-60k when the ATS is unlivable for a lot of people and the CTS is even cramped for many. One reason I love our Pacifica van is there is no shortage of space, and it was not overpriced as such with all the room and a v6. I also did have a Malibu, 2016 nice car. Saw a new Altima AWD on the road today. A relative just got a Sonata. Some folks will still buy sedans but they need to have better powertrain options at a reasonable cost than just the EPA compliance special. I would have looked at another Malibu but you can only get the 2.0 with the Premier, which ends up being 10 grand more for a turbo four. That turbo four should be an alacarte 1500 dollar option. Let me decide if i want the fuel economy of the base motor.

Most likely a 100% polyester-nylon blend to make the velour go the long haul. The burgundy cloth bucket seats in my last car held up unscathed over a dozen years, including the driver's seat. Either way, you have a rolling bordello. What I like is the "craftsmanship" and detail in those "old schoolz," the cool street name for those sorts of sleds. If you've experienced them at some point in your life, you'll never forget them. If you're a millennial or born even later, this whole discussion might be meaningless.

But its a convertible vomit!! Blows right out the back of the car lol!

And the Navigator has 500 ft/lbs of torque while the Escalade has 460. Sounds like it's more than adequate.

“I’m giving you a Convertible CUV” Or they could just serve me a bowl of vomit and skip a step.

Convertible crossovers... The only class of vehicle that i dislike more than coupe crossovers.

Large grill,, but the lighting is cool.....

Yeah- standard upholstery is fine. So is vinyl if its good stuff. Going to do the B-59's interior in something period; '56-59 seems to be my sweet spot for some wild/cool upholstery patterns.

Another Big 80s GM biggie I've always liked since seeing them back in the day was the Electra Park Avenue...love the crisp lines of the C- bodies of that era. An Aunt had a blue one, tried to talk my Dad into test driving Buicks or Cadillacs, but he was a Lincoln Town Car man...

I believe the CT6 volume eclipses both the 7-series and the A8, handily. So much for 'it doesn't sell well'..... unless those other two "sell abysmally poorly".

Now This is sad news. I would LOVE to buy a CT6 (perhaps with the Blackwing V8) but it seems nobody wants to buy arguably the best Cadillac sedan in decades. I wonder why. As for Mary Barra and the bean counters, I wonder who will replace this small minded leadership and actually Make GM Truly Great Again, as opposed to being small and timid. Am I the only one who noticed that few people are PROUD to own a GM vehicle these days? And then these PROUD owners would happily recommend to anyone they knew to buy a GM vehicle instead of the competition?

In a world where everything is free, absolutely. Sat in a 3.6L a while back and loved the space it had and how everything was laid out. If not a Blackwing, a TT 3.0L AWD will do just fine. Maybe in a few years, they will come down to a price that might entice me.

One thing I like a lot about the older cars are the colorful interiors and horizontal dash designs...more interesting than the lumpy 50-shades-of-gray plastic interiors that became so common in the 90s...

I think that was the big issue.... cheap cars coming with it standard.

Heh-heh... I'd like to see a shop that is creative w/ the cut and paste build a 2dr retractable roof Escalade coupe, using the roof and decklid from an XLR. It's too bad they didn't build a 2dr retractable roof coupe version of the ATS or CTS...

Camaro and Malibu are likely gone in a few years...

I think it is a waste because China has a displacement tax increase at 4.0 liters, so the tax would be more than the 3.99 liter German V8s. And I don’t think there is any V8 demand there anyway. And since Cadillac didn’t make rest drive crossovers like I have been saying they should do for years, there is no where to use this engine. 500k since 2014 model year. The W222 chassis S-class passed 500k units last week. So we are talking about 80k a year which is pretty good at a $125k a unit.

That was Rick Wagoner’s GM also

Well, they are in the same ballpark....adequate for the use case...these aren't F350 crew cab duallies.

That would be extremely frustrating then.

Even that apparently had issues.

Oh I know about the CT4 and CT5....never see them, though...part of the problem with the CT4 and CT5 as far competing against others in the compact and midsize luxury market (M-B, BMW) is the lack of body styles...no coupes, no convertibles...albeit those are a small niche, but for luxury cars, why not? Instead Cadillac keeps pushing the generic XT* crossovers....volume lease appliances.

It's just a shame because only a couple years ago everybody's view of Cadillac was that they're 7 tiers above Lincoln and now they're struggling to compete with anything Lincoln has come out with recently. Granted, some of that is Lincoln escalating their portfolio but, a lot of it is Cadillac laying down. It's still sold outside of the US.

RIP CT6, killed by GM's board room bean counters before your time really was up and not able to show what you could bring to the world globally. RIP CT6 This truly keeps me in SUVs as the 4 & 5 are just too small. This approach at GM is what could make my next auto purchase a non-gm product.

I would love a two door Escalade at my point in life, no need for 4 doors as I do not carry anyone other than the wife pretty much now. Something like this would do: But smaller rims as I hate these runflat rims/tires that ride like shit.

After all they have to stay on that sugar high as Life is sweet!

Just read this on the Cadillac Society site. GM bean counters are just making more bad decisions canceling a model that they spent hundreds of millions of dollars on R&D and never really even marketed it, Volt is another car that comes to mind. They could have kept the XT6 on the CT6's Omega platform to help with costs and just build CT6 in limited quantities like MB does with the S and BMW does with the 7, they've never really been big volume cars in the fullsize luxury sedan class. I'm going to go drive a CT6-V Blackwing that my go to Caddy dealer has. They had 6 sold 3, 2 black, 1 white left on this shipment.

It blows my mind they only gave this like two years before announcing it was canceled.

My father's father had a string of new Pontiacs from their peak years: '55, '57, '63, '66, '69, '72, '75 [then Olds; '82, '89 and Cadillac; '78, '97, '03]. Always new. He passed away in '16. My father got the '63 because he hated his '62 Biscayne, so his father traded it on the '66 instead of the '63. Then dad got a '70 and a '77 [then moved to Buicks; '89, '98, '06]. He & mom have a '12 Cruze now (sold the '06 last year), looking to replace it in the spring. Considering a small CUV. I should see if he likes the Tour-X. The ones from above that I personally knew were the '70 & '77, because dad always ran his cars a long time [the '70 until '80, the '77 until '95]. I can dimly remember grandpa's '72 & '75 [the '75 got totaled in '78], but it's the ones after that I knew well from his cars. The Pontiacs I've had were '64, '64, '65, '64, '65, '66, '65, '60. The first '64 is the only one I still own. But despite the above lists, I gravitated to Pontiacs on my own; my father has never been a 'car guy' and his 2 Pontiacs weren't particularly aspirational ('70 Catalina 4-dr sedan, '77 Catalina Safari wagon).

Yeah, my Dad pretty much only bought Ford-Lincoln-Mercury products for nearly 50 years. Exceptions included a Hino Contessa when they lived in Saipan in the 60s, a '79 Dodge Power Wagon pickup, and an '81 Chevette as a dinghy for the RV. Problem is leather is about all that is available anymore in anything remotely 'premium'. I used sheepskin seat covers in Arizona.

Plush Red Velvet!

i LOATHE velour upholstery (and tweed). I'd rather sit on a beach towel over bare springs.

A version w/ woodgrain side trim and white walls would be a nice 'Town & Country' wagon...

Some randomness on a cold evening...some vintage big Chevys I like...

Wouldn't shock me if GM's only car post 2025 is the Corvette. I could see them killing Cadillac's sedans and most of the Chevy's too.

With 1.3 twin turbo!

? Sad, but there is always hope. ? Maybe a Grand National CUV? ?‍♂️

Sad to see the demise of a long running brand name....so Buick is going to be the rounded generic CUVs and GMC the squared generic CUVs at the same dealer....yawn. Nothing remotely interesting left of the Buick brand in NA.

One of the best. Less road noise and better ride than the Pilot. Nicer interior than Enclave or Traverse. Bigger and more up to date than the Durango. Highlander is new and I haven't driven the new one yet. The one downside I've found to this one is fuel economy. In my mostly suburban driving I'm getting in the high teens and I'm pretty gentle on the throttle. It doesn't have the trick cylinder shutoff that the GM twins and Pilot have.