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*grabs chest* ELIZABETH, IT'S THE BIG ONE... GONE is the column shift lever, replaced by a row of buttons!

Cars -as design- are no different than art, architecture, or music.

Good grief, they're still waiting for it to fully charge?

Completely new platform, and no the console and engines do not carry over. The engines are just the same displacement, they have been updated.

No, but the Duramax 3.0 is there.

These are nice. Im on my way in liking full sized pick-up trucks from Detroit...but I never really hated on these. Whether the Chevy or GMC or Caddy versions. I always kinda liked them. This new one seems to be refined more than ever before. And this is just the Chevy... The Denali and Caddy must really be awesome inside. The Cadillac really has to show up the Navigator because the Lincoln really really upped its game. And if the Caddy does that, it dont matter what Rolls and Bentley do...the Caddy will remain king of the big SUVs. On the exterior, just your basic Tahoe and 'Burban...and that is how it should be.

What? It's December 10th? Ain't no one seen any cars? Tonight, I saw a metallic charcoal '06 or '07 Monte Carlo in damn near perfect shape. It had the more vertical spoiler as opposed to the overlaid flatter spoiler, meaning it was most likely an LT and definitely not an LS. And, in December, it's especially heartwarming to see that some people still treasure the large American coupe, something that used to be a staple of our automotive culture.

I like...cars. I like 1920s and 1930s cars. Some of them. I like some 1940s cars. I LOVE 1950s cars. I LOVE 1960s cars. I LOVE some 1970s cars. Others from the 1970s, not so much. I like some 1980s cars. Cars from my teenaged to adulthood years will always have a special place in my heart just because that is how it is. I like some 1990s cars and 2000s all the way to today. But the art of designing beautiful lines is all but gone. Different times. From how we as a people and society view the automobile all the way to how engineers and designers have to comply with aerodynamics for fuel efficiency and for safety. Design could still be beautiful, but we as a society appreciate that aspect a lot less as we as a society now view the automobile as a nuisance but necessary appliance. We dont value it more than we have to. We use to see it as freedom, now we see it as a burden. I love older cars because one could see and correlate the sign of the times in those older cars. As I LOVE rock-n-roll, I could see rock-n-roll in those 1950s fins. As I love airplanes, one could see the rise of the jet age in those 1950s and 1960s cars. The streamlining in the 1960s cars just gives those cars such beautiful, sleek lines. When designers got away from the fins and the bulky fenders, the cars got so low and wide and lean and long. Its the opposite of what is happening today. Cars are becoming massive, and tall and high. Ive said in the past that our SUVs and CUVs are starting to resemble late 1930s to 1940s cars. Only that they are not as long therefore this current crop of cars look frumpy as compared to the 1930s and 1940s cars. @Robert Hall said that the 1940s cars look like a bar of used soap. Well, he aint wrong, but that trend started in the 1990s all in the name of aerodynamic fuel efficiency's sake. And its gotten to where our current crop of cars resemble one another because computer calculated aerodynamic efficiency anywhere in the world will always come to the same conclusion as to which shape is the most efficient whether it be at GM in Detroit or GM in Korea or Tesla in California or Mercedes in Stuttgart or Nissan in California or Nissan in Japan... The artist designing cars gave way to a generic computer program. Not that there arent any interesting designed cars nowadays, but you got to admit, there were far more intersting designs back in the day... Kinda like music. Over the radio waves nowadays, its all formulaic sounds that rule...gone is the musician. Enter human psychology sound engineers with marketing executives with a computer background deciphering what set of musical notes will please the general population the most and voila...superstars with no ability to play any musical instrument, nor sing, but they look good, and sell "music" to folk, but also peddle their faces and bodies to other useless commodities that are marketed and produced in the same vein as their "music"... and those "celebrities" last a little over 6-7 years until the newest, freshest, cutest face comes along... So yeah...we could move forward...as fast as we could. @dfelt But that does NOT mean that moving forward actually means we as a species are actually moving forward, if you know what I mean...

I appreciate all things but like @Robert Hall stated, much belongs in the books or museums and I like moving forward into the future. Prefer things to change much faster than they are. As I would love to be in space moving between planets and seeing our Universe.

Wrong. It just got revised.

174 ft/lbs torque at 1500 RPM in the 1.3t, that's pretty darn good, imo

A 'spunky 3-cylinder'??? Might as well have an electric motor.

A couple great looking late 60s formal roof coupes...the roofline of the '68 Cadillac Coupe de Ville and the '68 Impala Custom Coupe are very similar...look at the length of those quarter panels and rear decks...

LOVE that Z71, and I applaud the vertical frontal aspect, reminds me of circa 2002, those were some sweet looking Chevy trucks back then. I am happy the trucks and utilities are re-converging, looks-wise.

Definitely some Silverado influence w/ the front end...

I thought you were tho

It's the Z71

I think the pricing is good.

That's due to leasing.

Very RAV4 with the roof colour change for off-road or sport trim levels. I don't think I would buy a subcompact CUV, especially a 3 cylinder, when compacts are only ~2-3K more.

About lead. He prefers lead sleds over EVs. We all know that. I prefer what came after those lead sleads...factory hot rods...aka Muscle Cars. And BEFORE those lead sleds. T-Buckets, '32 high boys (or low) and '33 roadster (or even 3 window coupe ) Ford Hot Rods. But...the new Mustang Mach-E seems quite the perplexing decision for a possible future purchase....for me that is... Well...first and foremost, its a CUV. A yuuuuuuge negative. Gargantuan I might even say. But its a "Mustang". Ive always (maybe not always) wanted a Mustang, but I dont really yearn for a high, 4 door Mustang. I yearn for a low, 2 door Mustang fastback coupe. The Mach-E is sorta a fastback though. But I want a V8. But...I could settle for an ecoboosted 4. But hey...the Mach-E has very fast electric motors in it embarrassing an ecoboosted 4....and that ecoboosted 4 toots along with more horses than Vanilla's five point oh... Electricity is quite a motivating energy source Id like to mention. Like I said....perplexing. Ah.....the joys of living in the 1st world when life altering decisions are about consumerism...wants versus needs... I think Blu is quite deAD sEt in his own little world to continue buying dino juice. Which is OK. Change might not be heading his way where he lives. At least not in the near future. I dont mind dino juice. It works quite well. I dont mind Zeus juice either. That too, works quite well. It is what it is.

Unusual... Fun fact: one list of cloudiest cities in the US has Seattle at #1, Portland, Or at #2 and Cleveland at #5...woo hoo, made the top 5!

60s less so than 70s-80s, certainly..but there were still a lot of '60s cars around when I was growing up and a bunch of them in my family. Having two Baby Boomer siblings helped also, I'm sure...I like a lot of 60s music as well. I can certainly appreciate things from before my time--my house is from the late 60s, I love art deco/streamline moderne/MCM architecture, love classical music and going to the symphony, going to classic rock concerts, going to museums.....I can enjoy looking at older cars at museums or car shows, but would probably find them disappointing to drive.

Isn’t ‘your era’ 70s-80s tho, and not the 60s? We’re the same age bracket; I’m not 75-85 and I can appreciate design from the 50s & 40s. Good design, commonly done by one artist rather than a committee. No one in my family or friends or neighbors had 40s-50s vehicles when I was ‘coming of automotive age’. Always good to look outside one’s own bubble. Art transcends time.

The 2.0 Turbo troubles are not surprising. Power delivery has been a common complaint no matter the car by Hyundai. It’s just garbage.

Hah well if we are on an 80's vibe.. Listened to some this morning on the way to work but my fave from today was definitely this song/version.

They have a new 2.5L turbo 4 in the works, it will be on the Sonata N-line, around 290hp and a little more than 300lb ft torque. Maybe a version of that will replace the underwhelming 2.0L in a few years, might get better fuel economy as well.

Like the looks of this version of the Santa Fe, shame they cannot get a properly powerful engine that has smooth linear delivery of power.

I wish I was more aware of cars as I would have told my Grandma to give me her 71 or 72 2-door Orange Buick Skylark hard top with fake white roof and big block V8. She drove that car like hell on wheels and it was a blast. Would love to have it now.

In a 500 mile circle of where I live, I can only find 3 Tesla 3 for sale and none are under $45K Yet I have 69 Cadillac CT6 available for sale in my 500 mile area. Of which 4 of those lovely CT6 are Blackwing Vs

One would have thought "What If" GM had actually realized they could have one engine development team for all of GM in the 60's or 70's where GM would be today and if the Bankruptcy could have been avoided. Course one could then say, where would Chevrolet be now if GM had not Wasted money on Saturn but invested that money / tech into Chevrolet. Always can say "What if!"

It's definitely individual, depends on one's own reality context.. 50s and before seem like they are from an ancient world before my time. If I were 75-85, maybe I'd like them more...I can appreciate seeing them in museums or at a car show, but nothing from before the 60s really connects to me--it's from someone else's era. On the other hand, cars from the 60s through the 80s, are recent enough that I remember seeing them on the road in quantity growing up and rode in/drove some of them...I like the longer, lower wider styling of the mid 60s to the late 70s, with around 1965 and 1971 being sweet spots, IMO. There is a lot from the 80s I like also...

And several divisions had unrelated 400s during the late 60s-70s. Looking back from today, it's hard to comprehend one corporation having 5 brands with their own engine development and manufacturing...seems like it would be very costly and inefficient to have that much duplication across brands.

The $35k Model 3 is a unicorn, I believe. Of the 114 used Model 3s that come up on Auto Trader locally, only 1 is under $36k, and only 1/2 dozen under $40k.

Way to go comparing RWD platform to FWD, comparing coupe to sedan. How about comparing apples to apples?

Well I can't understand a word he's saying, but here it is, an exclusive preview of the 2021 Dodge Neon! ?

Seems the Lincoln Aviator Hybrid Details came out today. Lincoln Aviator Grand Touring plug-in hybrid gets the following: 21 miles of Pure electric driving Gas only is 23 mpg Combined Electric/Gas of 56 MPG-e 494 Horsepower 630 lb-ft of Torque Base price of $69,895 This makes it the most fuel efficient 3 row CUV in it's class and the closest competitor is the Porsche Cayenne E-Hybrid which only has 13 miles of pure electric, 22 MPG gas only, 455HP / 516 lb-ft of torque with base price of $82,450. https://www.autoblog.com/2019/12/09/2020-lincoln-aviator-grand-touring-phev-fuel-economy/

Check the date :: No; it doesn't look better. The problem is; it doesn't look worse.

That sounds like a First World Problem.