BrewSwillis

They must be counting all of the Tacomas replaced due to rusted out frame rails! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Heard a quote today on the radio from some exec from Chrysler, and he thinks it's comical to hear all of these stories about his company. He thinks the media is getting desperate because they don't get much official news out of Chrysler.

Seriously?? You think these cars share 0 design cues??

Where are the spinners?? :rotflmao: I keed, I keed

O.K., but why should they not receive a government loan if the other automakers are receiving one?

They (Carbon) are saying that they will be very close to retrofitted one .....I say, not a chance in hell!

So, this Carbon Motors (http://www.carbonmotors.com/) E7 police vehicle is supposed to be built from the "ground up" as a completely new vehicle. So, why doe it look so much like a Chrysler 300?? It almost looks like they got plans for the next, slightly more aerodynamic, 300? Source: http://www.autoblog.com/2008/10/09/carbon-...-e7-police-car/

I believe that is intended to show how it plans on getting small cars out quickly, and how it already has some future business planned:

This is what I find very perplexing. UAW workers will support Democrats till the end of time, but the "liberals" on the West and East coast HATE American cars, and the companies that make them. I believe it is a self/American loathing attitude mixed in with jealousy of these "high paid, high school dropout" UAW laborers with better health plans than 90% of the country. I don't understand why this country now thinks it's ridiculous to pay people a fair wage, with good health care, and a pension?? I understand that most employees nowadays can't even dream of getting a pension, and for that matter even decent health care, but at what had it become stupid, and irresponsible of an employer to offer such things? People are so jealous of others being successful (UAW workers over the years), that they will purposely not buy an American automobile just to smite a UAW worker. Yes, this is a reason that many foreign auto owners give as the only reason that they bought a foreign auto. Now, the other thing that is perplexing is that the Republican government can give two $h!s about the domestic auto industry....but people that tend to be Republicans, which are typically midwesterners and southerners, are the ones most likely to drive an American car, or even more likely a truck. This is the one reason why I love conservative "rednecks". Because they are usually patriotic, and tend to try and support American goods. Why do you think all of the Asian automakers set up shop in the south? It was a propaganda move to try and convince "rednecks" to buy foreign cars because they are giving them jobs. They didn't need to set up shops on the coasts, because the people there didn't even need the slightest budge to buy a foreign car....they were actively seeking them due to their hate of the US auto industry. Now, for the people that say lighten up, they only made fun of some CEO's and politicians......they sure as hell did not. If they just made fun of the CEO's flying private jets and getting millions in bonuses while their companies were failing, then I would have been laughing right along side of them. But that's not all they made fun of. They made fun of American car quality, safety, and the workers who make the cars.....all while being grossly untrue. With the exception of the current Chrysler (fresh off of getting $h!ted out by Daimler), GM and Ford are near the top in quality and safety. They are also pretty high in fuel economy considering all of the trucks and SUVs they have sold (to people who wanted them). And for the people talking about the NBC agenda. I believe that they have become an Ultra-Liberal network who's goal is to push their liberal agenda down America's throat. Whether it be getting "their" president into office, or destroying the US auto industry. I tend to lean a bit to the conservative side on most issues, but can't stand when either side tries to push it's beliefs down the public's collective throat. I can't watch FOX News or MSNBC.

I usually watch SNL (because there is nothing else on at the time), but didn't catch it this past weekend....and apparently missed a total undeserved thrashing of the American auto industry. It was full of all of the stupid misinformed opinions that have lead over half of the country to buy foreign cars. View this clip for yourself, and see if you think the portrayal of the Big 3 was "fair": http://www.autoblog.com/2008/11/25/snl-tak...roit-3-bailout/ Unfortunately, people seem to believe everything they see on SNL....I mean, just look at the election......and SNL is using it's time to promote it's Detroit-hating OPINIONS as "FACTS" on a national stage for millions of people. Please join me in emailing them hate-mail to: [email protected] , and boycotting them until they offer an apology for the spreading of misinformation about American car quality, and even safety. They just said in the skit that the Big 3 need to build safer cars (implying that they do not already, but that foreign automakers do), while the latest list of IIHS Top Safety Picks gives top honors to Ford and Volvo, with GM in 4th place tying Toyota. And Mods, if this is in the wrong forum, please move to the correct one. Thank you!

Why are all the Mazdas getting those goofy RX-8 front wheel arches, that barely look good enough on the RX-8?? RX-8 6 New 3

So, that also means dumping pensions and health care for all the retirees that were promised those things?? You think that is the right thing to do? Here's a good quote on Japan's national health care, and how it affects their domestic automakers profits: From this excellent article: http://chinamatters.blogspot.com/2008/11/g...nal-health.html

This is very true. Just watch a sporting event anywhere outside the area surrounding Detroit. The floors and walls are plastered with Toyota, KIA, Hyundai, etc. Halftime shows are always sponsored by an Asian auto company.....and guess what? Most people are fine with that. I was watching Conan last night, and the crowd literally booed loudly when Conan mentioned the Big 3 asking for a "bailout". This country is ing sick. Of course Conan also went on the make fun of Detroit's crappy cars with bad mileage. The Big 3 can't win. If they don't show up to the NAIAS in Detroit, the journalists will say they have given up and can't compete.....and if they do show up, and put on the same show, the journalists will say that Detroit is still oblivious and acting like there is not problem. Face it, the citizens of this great land have spoken....they do not want a domestic auto industry. If you can't tell, I'm fed up. :angry2:

Not saying it's right, but dealerships might not be getting all that many yet, and they are probably using them to draw customers in. If they can sell one for over sticker, they will.....but they are probably using them for "free" advertising right now.

Except for having been a production vehicle!

I think that was Extreme 4X4 on Spike TV. If not, they did something just like that on there too. Looked pretty fun! http://www.powerblocktv.com/sites/xtreme/e...amp;ep_sea=0802

....or even buy the Sahara, and get some black fender flares.....and then sell the white ones?? ....or tell your dealer that you would buy a new Jeep Sahara, but you don't want body color flares. They can probably special order one for you.

Sorry, didn't mean to break up your little love fest. I'm guessing this '67 2000GT thing had no B pillar or something?? If you have to dig back to 1967 to find originally in a Toyota, then I guess you would be right.

It's a Muscle car, not a Pony car. The original one was even closer to a Pony car (but not quite) than this one is.

Screw deez hybridz, I vant 425 horsepowerz!!

I'm sure this guy and his family don't agree : http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080709/ap_on_..._overwork_death

Watch a teaser video:

Probably the same way any other company sells a truck......to people that NEED them. Gone are the days of getting a large truck for a daily driver, when your daily drive doesn't involve pulling or hauling something.