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    Cadillac CT4 Debuts May 30th

      ...plus a few V-series...

    Cadillac will be unveiling the Cadillac CT4 along with a V-series version on May 30th according to Motor1.

    Both the CT4 and CT5 ride on a second generation Alpha platform called Alpha 2.  The CT5 is offered in rear-wheel drive with all-wheel drive being an option. It is highly likely that the CT4 will get this same offering. 

    There is word that the V-series version of the Cadillac CT5 will also debut.  It is likely to pack the same 4.2-liter Blackwing V8 that is available in the CT6. The CT4 V-series is likely to get an uprated version of the 3.0TT.

    While the CT5 is more of a fastback style, the spyshots of the CT4 shows a more conventional sedan profile and an Escala style grille similar to the CT5's.

    The CT5 is likely to start in the high mid-$30k range while the CT4 will be aimed more at entry-level luxury buyers. 

    Source: Motor1

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    I like that they are showing the V-series right away.  The last go around the V-series cars came about 2 years after the standard model and I complained about that.  Much better to get them on out there sooner rather than miss 2 years of sales opportunity on a high margin product.

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    Interesting side profile comparison of the CT4 top to the CT5 below.

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    3 minutes ago, dfelt said:

    Interesting side profile comparison of the CT4 top to the CT5 below.

     

    Looks like more front overhang, similar slope to back window.  Will be interesting to see what the C-pillar trim looks like...;)

    46 minutes ago, Paolino said:

    So, what is this considered, an ATS replacement?

    Yep.

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    So what will GM say about where the CT5 fits in? They claim it’s a 3 Series/C Class competitor while being larger than both when I think most people knew that there was a CT4 for the smaller size. Just weird for them to market it that way when this was clearly in the works and seems like the more natural competitor to the Germans. 

     

    And I realize that some pics can play tricks on the eyes but why does the CT4 appear to be longer than the CT5? (Note the difference in length from the front wheels to the nose)

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    ^ Just looked over the complete CT5 introduction press release, didn't mention any competitive models.  And there's no advertising out for it yet...

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    Let’s just complain about the CT4’s trunk space now to get it over with.

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    Interesting to see both in person someday. Still not impressed the the names at all. At least ATS and CTS were different. I do not like the CT and XT names at all. 

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    1 hour ago, balthazar said:

    ^ Just looked over the complete CT5 introduction press release, didn't mention any competitive models.  And there's no advertising out for it yet...

    From the C&G article a few weeks back (and why I asked). 

     

    “Rumors have it that the CT5 will start in the mid-30s and Cadillac is insisting that, despite its size, the CT5 is aligned against the 3-series and C-Class. But in doing so, where does that leave the car?”

     

    Basically I’m asking if this rumor has been confirmed because it has not been answered all this time. The introduction of the CT4 seems to squash the rumor but I was just asking for a little official clarification here. 

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    I heard a rumour, that you have a broken heart.  Now it seems they're telling me you've changed your wicked ways. 

    Rumour has it.  That she is half your age.  But Im guessing that's the reason that you stayed.  Ive heard, that youve been missing me....

    Heard it from a friend, who heard it from a friend, who heard it from another, you've been messin around...

    I dont believe it. Not for a minute.  

    I know you know we've had some good times. Now they have their own hiding place.  Well, I can promise you tomorrow, but I cant buy back yesterday.  

    Ill be there for you, these 5 words I swear to you. When you breathe, I want to be the air for you. Ill be there for you! 

     

    This post was brought to you by Bananarama, Adele, REO Speedwagon and Bon Jovi.

    And if you frown upon it because it has nothing to do with the topic at hand, I tied it all up with the "rumour" connection and at least there is a very weak automotive connection to it...so...there! 

     

     

     

     

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    Per the profile spy shot, I do prefer the CT4's 14 inch wheel size, will be cheaper to replace the tires.  Info states CT4 will have a more conventional sedan profile v. the fastback CT5.  Maybe we can look forward to a cavernous 12.5 cu ft trunk, despite its smaller size.  This would mean Cadillac is serious about fighting the CUV onslaught, by making their sedans uber-practical.

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    50 minutes ago, balthazar said:

    OK, but ‘rumor’ is not ‘Cadillac marketing’. Have to wait & see.

    Technically you are correct. I should have led with "potentially marketing" the CT5 but I figured most here got the reference since it was just discussed a few weeks ago in another article. Didn't know semantics were going to be used against me lol.

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    I hope it's the camo, because that front overhang could give a Buick Century a run for its money.

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    2 minutes ago, Paolino said:

    I hope it's the camo, because that front overhang could give a Buick Century a run for its money.

    Or a 3rd gen Trans Am

    Image result for 3rd gen Trans Am side profile

     

    Come to think of it...a 2nd gen Trans Am too

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    Those are not all nice and tucked in ...

    The CT5's area right in front of that front tire forward, now that Im looking at it more and more...looks kinda squished...with no personality to boot....

    Image result for 2020 Cadillac CT5 side profile

    Yeah...I like me some front overhang....

     

     

     

     

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    Why 3 sedans? Why waste the money?????

    Save the money, give us a proper Caddy sedan that is affordable but badass, and maybe throw a wagon in for those who still like those.....

    This is still OLD GM think.........

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    11 minutes ago, daves87rs said:

    Why 3 sedans? Why waste the money?????

    Save the money, give us a proper Caddy sedan that is affordable but badass, and maybe throw a wagon in for those who still like those..... 

    This is still OLD GM think.........

    Just because they shut down plants saying no one is buying sedans and the majority want crossovers and SUVs and got rid of two cars I would love to own doesn't mean this is a mis... oh... I see what you mean.

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    I don't think 3 sedans is too much, but in today's market you could make a good argument that 2 sedans is enough for Cadillac.  The question is how many more crossovers are they making?  It isn't uncommon now to see 6 or 7 SUVs in a brand now.

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    22 minutes ago, daves87rs said:

    Why 3 sedans? Why waste the money?????

    Save the money, give us a proper Caddy sedan that is affordable but badass, and maybe throw a wagon in for those who still like those.....

    This is still OLD GM think.........

    I like your thinking all but for one thing.

    Im for a proper Caddy.

    Im for a badass Caddy.

    Im for a wagon Caddy. Maybe. (its that CUV/SUV thing that is going on in the market place that puts a damper on that idea)

    But I definitely DO NOT want an affordable Caddy...

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    1 hour ago, oldshurst442 said:

    I like your thinking all but for one thing.

    Im for a proper Caddy.

    Im for a badass Caddy.

    Im for a wagon Caddy. Maybe. (its that CUV/SUV thing that is going on in the market place that puts a damper on that idea)

    But I definitely DO NOT want an affordable Caddy...

    Well, with the Craze of the CUV/SUV, the sedan needs to offer something to the buying public- Value! It also makes a nice step up into the “family” trucklets that people will feel better paying a few bucks more for.

    It’s time to dump the benchmark, and just change the game.......

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    4 hours ago, oldshurst442 said:

    Image result for 2020 Cadillac CT5 side profile

    Yeah...I like me some front overhang....

    Totally agree, those wheels out to the corner like that is gonna be expensive to fix when damage happens as nothing on the front to absorb the impact. OUCH.

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    8 hours ago, dfelt said:

    Totally agree, those wheels out to the corner like that is gonna be expensive to fix when damage happens as nothing on the front to absorb the impact. OUCH.

    3 inches of air or plastic won't have any effect on repairing an impact. 

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    OK Why does Cadillac need near-luxury buyers when GM just shut down an entire plant that made a near-luxury sedan?

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