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    Spying: 2020 Cadillac Escalade Makes An Appearance

      Yep, that's an Escalade

    Late last week, the first spy shots of the next-generation Cadillac Escalade made their way onto the web. Much like the spy shots of the Chevrolet Suburban that came out back in May, we can't tell much about the exterior due to the heavy camouflage. There are certain details that can be made out such as Escala-like grille and the headlights moving horizontally.

    Like the new Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra, the Escalade and sister SUV models will utilize the T1XX platform. One of the key changes this platform brings is an independent rear suspension, something we first saw in the Suburban spy shots. The 6.2L V8 with 420 horsepower is expected to continue into the next-generation model, teamed with a new 10-speed automatic. There is also the possibility of the twin-turbo 4.2L V8, detuned to 500 horsepower or so.

    Expect to see the 2020 Escalade sometime next year.

    Source: Car and Driver, Motor Authority

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    17 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

    Hot...but the new Navigator is still better looking IMHO.

    Haven't seen any pics of the new Escalade undisguised yet, so I'll withhold judgement.  I do like the new Navigator. 

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    They have had the 6.2 V8 for about 12 years now, time for something new.   Independent rear suspension will help with 3rd row room, which currently lags behind its competitors that do have IRS.

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    2 hours ago, ccap41 said:

    What doesn't the 6.2 do that it needs to do? 

    Fuel economy, NVH, out power a German V8, etc.  That engine is as old as Toyota's V8.  I'd actually like to see the 3.0 twin turbo V6 with an e-assist as the standard Escalade engine, that opens the door to China sales to skirt some displacement taxes and the 4.2 DOHC V8 optional.  

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    27 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    Fuel economy, NVH, out power a German V8, etc.  That engine is as old as Toyota's V8.  I'd actually like to see the 3.0 twin turbo V6 with an e-assist as the standard Escalade engine, that opens the door to China sales to skirt some displacement taxes and the 4.2 DOHC V8 optional.  

    Holy sht, you're right. The much $h!tier, larger vehicle, heavier vehicle does need an engine upgrade because the 6.2 gets worse fuel economy doesn't it? 

    Seems more like Mercedes needs to upgrade. 

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    18 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    Holy sht, you're right. The much $h!tier, larger vehicle, heavier vehicle does need an engine upgrade because the 6.2 gets worse fuel economy doesn't it? 

    Seems more like Mercedes needs to upgrade. 

    6.2.PNG

    The GLS with the V6 gets better mpg than the Escalade, and that new inline 6 with the EQ boost is better than the V6.  And that 4.7 liter V8 is in it's last year, the 2020 GLS will have the 4.0 liter.  Mercedes is replacing all the GLS engines.  They also trademarked GLS73 which makes one wonder if something above the GLS63 is coming as they do have a plug-in hybrid V8 with over 800 hp in the works.

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    29 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    Holy sht, you're right. The much $h!tier, larger vehicle, heavier vehicle does need an engine upgrade because the 6.2 gets worse fuel economy doesn't it? 

    Seems more like Mercedes needs to upgrade. 

    6.2.PNG

    My sister Heather drives a Navigator. She did not buy it for Fuel economy. People dropping eighty grand on a rig like this are not persuaded by a half a mile per gallon.

    18 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    The GLS with the V6 gets better mpg than the Escalade, and that new inline 6 with the EQ boost is better than the V6.  And that 4.7 liter V8 is in it's last year, the 2020 GLS will have the 4.0 liter.  Mercedes is replacing all the GLS engines.  They also trademarked GLS73 which makes one wonder if something above the GLS63 is coming as they do have a plug-in hybrid V8 with over 800 hp in the works.

    This is the answer to Dwight in the other thread about Tarriffs. Without some level of free economic competition things never get better. 

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    2 hours ago, smk4565 said:

    Fuel economy, NVH, out power a German V8, etc.  That engine is as old as Toyota's V8.  I'd actually like to see the 3.0 twin turbo V6 with an e-assist as the standard Escalade engine, that opens the door to China sales to skirt some displacement taxes and the 4.2 DOHC V8 optional.  

    The 2018 Escalade's 6.2 liter is the truck engine of the 2014 release of the LT1 in the Corvette Stingray.

    Its also called a Gen V of Chevy small blocks

    Gen IV were the LS engines.

    Gen III were the LT engines again. 

    No...the Gen V small block LT is NOT a Gen III LT small block.

    No...the Gen III LT small blocks have nothing in common with Chevrolet's original 1950s small block V8s...

    Yes...the Gen IVs are different from the Gen IIIs.

    Yes...the Gen Vs have some similarities to the LS based Gen IVs, but...

     All Gen V engines are aluminum blocks with aluminum cylinder heads and include features such as direct injection, piston cooling jets...something that the Gen IV LS engines do not have...

    The Gen Vs are...brand new and employ state of the art technology keeping them on par in technology and sophistication with exotic V8s from exotic V8 makers such as Ferrari...

    Mercedes V8s are good.

    AMG V8s are awesome. 

    The Chevrolet Small Block V8...is legendary. You may not agree with this.  But its OK.  

    I, would love to see the new TT 4.2 liter in a new Cadillac product, in the Escalade though, I am more than happy to see a detuned LT5 under the hood. 

    Why?

    Its a truck. Its the Escalade.

    4.2 liter versus 6.2 liter. 

    Twin turbo sure.  Its good.  

    2.65 liter supercharger....think about that for a moment...

    Cadillac should always be about arrogance...

    Unless Cadillac puts 2 supersized turbos the size of 1 gallon paint,  on the possible Escalade 4.2 liter to produce that 700 or so horsepower, I would prefer the 2.65 liter supercharger under the hood of my 'Slade.

    But that is just me. Trying to retain some American Muscle, Cadillac arrogance in my American automobiles...something that the dudes that run Cadillac  should be thinking about as well...

     

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    Engine is not a big deal at this point....if i’m Going to pony the money, it better move!

    We’ll see if it gets some flash....

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    I beg to differ.

    The Escalade is not one of those wannabe nimble track handling SUVs like a Porsche Cayenne or Lamborghini Urus or BMW X6...

    The Escalade is  the original (Lincoln Naivigator is truly the original) large land yacht SUV...

    Kinda like how  1960s Lincoln Continentals or 1970s Cadillac Fleetwoods used to be...

    That is why the Escalade sells...

    People want and love their big land yacht Cadillacs. 

    The Bentley and Rolls Royce made their Bentayga and Cullinan in the Escalades image...

    Because Bentley and Rolls Royce never abandoned their floaty land yacht images...unlike Cadillac.

    But you see, the Bentayga has got a (as its top engine) a 6.0 liter and the Rolls Royce has a 6.75 liter under their hoods. Both V12s. But it dont matter. 

    Both are 6.0 liters and above...and for a reason...

    Even Mercedes Benz with their GL class SUV has got a 5.5 liter as its biggest V8 offering in theirs.

    For Cadillac to go with a 4.2 liter in their Escalade would be a mistake in my eyes...

    The irony (and hypocrisy) of today's world is this:  At a time when electrics are gaining status more and more in the market place, at a time when everybody has gone "save the planet" and view the internal combustion engine as the Devil, the world seems to not want to let go of V12s and V8s....especially in high displacements...

    The Challenger rides on a 20 year old platform, yet the world has gone bonkers over its 2.7  and 2.4  (Demon and Hellcat respectively) liter supercharger on top of a 6.2 liter V8 and continues to sell at a voracious rate...

    The Scatpack at 6.4 liters is also revered...

    Let us not forget the Jeep version of the Hellcat...

    Ferrari...Ferrari has dropped a 6.5 liter V12 in their latest GT sports car. UP from 6.3 liters...

    6.5 liters...in a Ferrari...

    Remember this logo?

    Image result for 6.5 liter GTO

     

    Yes...it belongs on a GTO...not a Ferrari GTO, but a muscle car Pontiac GTO...in 1967...

    A 6.2 liter V8 with a 2.65 liter blower attached to it in the Escalade  would be a very welcomed status symbol...

    A better status symbol than that: EV Escalade. 

     

     

     

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    15 hours ago, smk4565 said:

    The GLS with the V6 gets better mpg than the Escalade, and that new inline 6 with the EQ boost is better than the V6.  And that 4.7 liter V8 is in it's last year, the 2020 GLS will have the 4.0 liter.  Mercedes is replacing all the GLS engines.  They also trademarked GLS73 which makes one wonder if something above the GLS63 is coming as they do have a plug-in hybrid V8 with over 800 hp in the works.

    Yeah and the V6 is down 60hp and 100tq to the old-ass pushrod 6.2. Why would I compare that? It's a huge vehicle. 

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    53 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    Yeah and the V6 is down 60hp and 100tq to the old-ass pushrod 6.2. Why would I compare that? It's a huge vehicle. 

    I love you like a brother, but please refrain from making enlightened levelheaded arguments that make prudent sense. They don't seem to resonate here at C and G for some reason.

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    3 hours ago, ccap41 said:

    Yeah and the V6 is down 60hp and 100tq to the old-ass pushrod 6.2. Why would I compare that? It's a huge vehicle. 

    The GLS450 and the Escalade have the same 0-60 time, and the Navigator beats the Escalade in acceleration and fuel economy.  And the GLS offers 2 V8’s that out power either.  And Cadillac has a V8 better than the 6.2, so that 6.2 should be no where to be found.

    I think there should be a 3 liter V6 Escalade (preferably with e-assist or hybrid) because of two reasons: China displacement taxes and livery/fleet sales that shop mpg over performance.

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    2 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    The GLS450 and the Escalade have the same 0-60 time, and the Navigator beats the Escalade in acceleration and fuel economy.  And the GLS offers 2 V8’s that out power either.  And Cadillac has a V8 better than the 6.2, so that 6.2 should be no where to be found.

    I think there should be a 3 liter V6 Escalade (preferably with e-assist or hybrid) because of two reasons: China displacement taxes and livery/fleet sales that shop mpg over performance.

    Interesting thought....would add substantially to the production cost to add these options though.

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    1 hour ago, A Horse With No Name said:

    Interesting thought....would add substantially to the production cost to add these options though.

    The CTS has 4 different engine choices, the CT6 has 3, even the Cruze had 3 engine choices at one point.  How can the Escalde only have 1 engine choice?  It doesn’t cost much more to throw a couple more options in there.

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    5 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    The CTS has 4 different engine choices, the CT6 has 3, even the Cruze had 3 engine choices at one point.  How can the Escalde only have 1 engine choice?  It doesn’t cost much more to throw a couple more options in there.

    I am still not sure the marketing case exists for it.

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    45 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    Well that is a 2015 GL450, the resfreshed model has a 9-speed transmission and is tested at 5.7 seconds 0-60.  But if you drove them both side by side I bet people couldn’t tell a difference in speed between an Escalde and GLS450.  And Mercedes is dropping that engine after this year they will have all new stuff in 2020, if the Escalde plans to soldier on with the same power train as today’s model that is good news for Mercedes.

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    The current 'Slade also has a new transmission, 10spd. WAAAAY superior to the POS 9spd. What, did they forget a gear??? 

    I don't think the 2:1 sales of the Escalade to GLS is worrying anybody over at GM. They have a new gen out testing on the streets as well. 

    *knock knock*

    Mercedes, did ya forget a gear? 

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    36 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    The current 'Slade also has a new transmission, 10spd. WAAAAY superior to the POS 9spd. What, did they forget a gear??? 

    I don't think the 2:1 sales of the Escalade to GLS is worrying anybody over at GM. They have a new gen out testing on the streets as well. 

    *knock knock*

    Mercedes, did ya forget a gear? 

    They didn’t, they considered 10 gears and ran 81 billion computer simulations to find the ideal gear count and 9 speed was better than 10.  More gears add weight and complexity and there was no fuel economy gain from 9 to 10.  Thus they went with 9. 

    The 9-speed transmission also only has 1 reverse gear where as the old 7G-tronic transmissions had 2 reverse gears.  I thought 2 reverse gears was cool but I guess they found it not necessary.

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    Oh sweet baby Jesus you're dense... I thought it was extremely obvious but I guess I'll dumb it down for you.. I WAS BEING A SMART@SS. 

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    1 minute ago, ccap41 said:

    Oh sweet baby Jesus you're dense... I thought it was extremely obvious but I guess I'll dumb it down for you.. I WAS BEING A SMART@SS. 

    Please for future posts hashtag them #SARCASM#THIS IS MINDFU@#INGLY OBVIOUS#HEYDUDE#THISCAN'TBEHAPPENING#PULLYORHEADOUTOFSTUTTGARTSARSE#THISONLYWORKSINTHEINSANEALTERNATIVEUNIVERSEOFC&G#MINDBLOWN so we know that you are being sarcastic.

    This may make things clearer in the future with your posts.

    Sincerely,

    The #NONADMINSISTRATIONTEAMATC&G

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    Ah, hashtaging for the Millenials and their Instagramming.     Personally, I prefer the sarcasm html tags--- <sarcasm> </sarcasm> around the text that is intended to be sarcastic. 

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      Hyundai Sonata Hybrid’s solar-panel roof directly charges the 12-volt and hybrid batteries and outputs 205 watts of electricity. This system has several benefits:
      Mileage increases by about 2 miles per day Helps prevent battery discharge from infotainment or HVAC systems when the car is off Unique design cue Active Shift Control Technology
      ASC technology optimizes transmission efficiency by monitoring gear shifts 500 times per second and precisely adjusting the transmission rotation speed for faster shift times. ASC applies new control logic software to the Hybrid Control Unit (HCU), which aligns the electric motor with the rotational speeds of the engine and transmission to reduce gear shifts by 30%. The technology also delivers smoother gear changes and quicker shift times.
      “The development of the world’s first ASC technology is a remarkable innovation that incorporates precise motor control to an automatic transmission,” said KyoungJoon Chang, Vice President and Head of Powertrain Control System Group of Hyundai Motor Group. “It will not only save fuel but also provide a more fun driving experience for our customers.”
      Independently Developed Control Logic Software Applied to the Electric Motor
      Conventional hybrid vehicles do not have torque converters to improve fuel economy because torque converters lose energy while transferring power to the drive wheels. Although fuel efficient, such a system also requires longer shift times to ensure smoother gear changes.
      ASC technology allows the hybrid’s electric motor to also take control of gear shifts by applying new software logic to the Hybrid Control Unit (HCU) to mitigate issues with slower shift time. The HCU monitors the rotational speed of transmission with a sensor installed inside the electric motor at 500 times per second to synchronize the rotational speed with that of the gasoline engine.
      The synchronization reduces shift time by 30% from 500 ms to 350 ms. This improves not only the hybrid vehicles’ acceleration performance and fuel economy but also the durability of the transmission, by minimizing friction during gear shifts.
      Aerodynamics
      The Sonata Hybrid slips through air with 0.24 drag coefficient. The low drag coefficient is accomplished by managing airflow over and under the body. Up front, the Sonata Hybrid has active air flaps behind the grille, which close when less engine cooling is needed. A redesigned rear spoiler further improves airflow. To reduce drag under the body Hyundai engineers added several elements:
      Bumper lip Front- and rear-wheel deflectors Undercovers in the front and back of the engine bay Center floor undercover Rear undercover Digital Key
      Continuing to promote the latest advances in technology, the new Sonata Hybrid offers an optional smartphone-based Hyundai Digital Key. Digital Key uses a dedicated mobile app, Near Field Communication (NFC), and Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE) technology to allow a new Sonata to be unlocked, started and driven without a physical key, via a smartphone. Sonata’s Digital Key also allows secure sharing of virtual keys with family and friends.  
      Sonata owners can tailor the different vehicle functions available to each shared virtual key, and can make the key available for only a defined amount of time. The vehicle owner can preset the duration of vehicle use or limit the use to only certain features when loaning the vehicle, and can also revoke keys remotely. For additional convenience, such as using a valet service or visiting a Hyundai dealer, Hyundai Digital Key also works with an NFC card, which will be provided with each vehicle. Each Sonata still comes with traditional keys. Hyundai Digital Key is compatible only with phones using the Android operating system. 
      Hyundai Digital Key utilizes NFC technology, which exhibits a high level of security. The NFC wireless data communication takes place only when the device and the reader are placed several centimeters apart.
      Optimized Hybrid Battery Placement
      By optimizing the placement of the high-voltage hybrid battery, Hyundai engineers were able to increase trunk capacity by 2.5 cubic feet, compared with the 2019 Sonata Hybrid. This placement also helps create best-in-class front headroom and legroom.
      Convenience Technology
      The 2020 Sonata Hybrid features a number of advanced comfort and convenience features including an electric parking brake, Hands-free Smart Trunk, Qi high-speed wireless smartphone charging pad with cooling fan, standard Apple CarPlay® and Android Auto®, Text-to-Speech via Bluetooth®, heated and ventilated front seats and split-folding rear seats.   
      The top-of-the-line audio and navigation display is a wide, high-definition, customizable, 10.25-inch touchscreen monitor with split screens and natural language, and cloud-based speech recognition powered by Blue Link, while the cluster supervision display is a full 12.3 inches. The navigation system includes a bird’s-eye view in navigation maps, and drivers get HD Radio traffic flow and incident data without ever paying for a subscription. Dual Bluetooth support is also available, so two devices can be paired at the same time—one for phone calls and one for streaming audio. The navigation system also comes with three years of Blue Link Multimedia/Map updates. Hyundai’s eight-inch display audio user interface, equipped with Android Auto and Apple CarPlay, is standard on the 2020 Sonata Hybrid. An optional Bose® audio system also delivers an exceptional experience to customers.
      SmartSense Safety Technologies
      Sonata features Hyundai’s latest SmartSense advanced driver assistance systems (ADAS). A series of sensors and systems, often restricted to luxury cars, combine to potentially warn the driver and may take action in the event of a safety incident. Meanwhile, other ADAS systems can help the driver perform certain tasks using the car’s 3 radar sensors, 12 ultrasonic sensors and 5 cameras. These features include:
      Forward Collision-Avoidance Assist (standard) Blind Spot Collision-Avoidance Assist (standard) Rear Cross-Traffic Collision-Avoidance Assist (standard) Lane Keeping Assist (standard) Advanced Smart Cruise Control with Stop and Go (standard) Highway Driving Assist (optional)
    • By William Maley
      Cadillac's Super Cruise system is getting a major upgrade just in time for the 2021 CT4 and CT5. The system will now be able to automatically change lanes whenever the driver taps or fully engages the turn signal stalk. The vehicle will signal and look for a safe gap before making the maneuver. Information as to which step the system is on is shown to driver in the instrument cluster.
      “This is our most extensive update we’ve made to Super Cruise since its debut. We have made a number of improvements to make Super Cruise more intuitive, better performing and more accessible for our customers. In addition to the automated lane change functionality, we’ve made improvements to the user interface and hands-free driving dynamics,”  said Mario Maiorana, Super Cruise chief engineer in a statement.
      This upgrade is due in part to GM's new digital vehicle platform that allows for more "electrical bandwidth and data processing power." Other improvements include better rear-facing sensors and updated software.
      Following the CT4 and CT5, the updated Super Cruise system will appear on the upcoming 2021 Escalade. That brings us to an interesting item caught by the folks at Roadshow. The picture Cadillac used in the press release has the rear end of the next-generation model expected to debut next month.

      Source: Cadillac, Roadshow
      Press Release is on Page 2

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    • By William Maley
      Cadillac's Super Cruise system is getting a major upgrade just in time for the 2021 CT4 and CT5. The system will now be able to automatically change lanes whenever the driver taps or fully engages the turn signal stalk. The vehicle will signal and look for a safe gap before making the maneuver. Information as to which step the system is on is shown to driver in the instrument cluster.
      “This is our most extensive update we’ve made to Super Cruise since its debut. We have made a number of improvements to make Super Cruise more intuitive, better performing and more accessible for our customers. In addition to the automated lane change functionality, we’ve made improvements to the user interface and hands-free driving dynamics,”  said Mario Maiorana, Super Cruise chief engineer in a statement.
      This upgrade is due in part to GM's new digital vehicle platform that allows for more "electrical bandwidth and data processing power." Other improvements include better rear-facing sensors and updated software.
      Following the CT4 and CT5, the updated Super Cruise system will appear on the upcoming 2021 Escalade. That brings us to an interesting item caught by the folks at Roadshow. The picture Cadillac used in the press release has the rear end of the next-generation model expected to debut next month.

      Source: Cadillac, Roadshow
      Press Release is on Page 2
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