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    Dodge Challenger To Get AWD Option, Widebody Hellcat for 2017

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      Challenger to get AWD and other items to look forward at Dodge

    Last year at the SEMA Show in Las Vegas, FCA introduced the Challenger GT concept that featured AWD. The premise was you could have a four-seasons muscle car. It seems this idea got enough traction that FCA is going forward with it.

    Automotive News reports that Dodge will introduce Challenger GT AWD this fall. Unlike the concept that featured a 5.7L HEMI V8, the production model will only be available with the base V6. In 2017, a widebody Challenger with the supercharged Hellcat V8 will be introduced. It will be called the Challenger ADR.

    Other interesting tidbits from Automotive News concerning Dodge,

    • The Charger and Challenger will finally be redesigned in 2018. The models will swap the LX platform for the new Giorgio platform. This will cut a fair amount of weight out of both models - 400 lbs for Charger, 500 lbs for Challenger
    • Durango will get a SRT version with a 6.4L HEMI V8 for 2017
    • A convertible known as the Barracuda will debut in 2021. It will use the Giorgio platform that will underpin the new Charger and Challenger

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    I dunno about the Mustang.. but technically the Camaro's platform certainly has AWD in its repertoire with currently top rated 335HP. But if the Camaro gets something with more HP.. say coupled its V8.. the ATS-V and CTS VSport best get it too. Of course there is the Camaro getting a Vert before either

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    "Unlike the concept that featured a 5.7L HEMI V8, the production model will only be available with the base V6"

    'nuff said.

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    I think all automakers need to look at offering AWD on all products. No reason to not engineer the platforms to handle this as an option.

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    A fitting farewell for the LX platform, which is long past the point of needing a replacement. A little weird that it will only be for the V6 and Hellcat but it is what it is.

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    6 hours ago, smk4565 said:

    They are making Dodges in 2017?  

    We'll see what next weeks 5yrs plan says. 

    With so many revisions, it should just be " Plan "

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    16 hours ago, Frisky Dingo said:

    I thought they were making a widebody AWD Hellcat.

     

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    A lot of outlets were reporting that at the time because the story Automotive News published wasn't clear on which models would get AWD. I had to wait a few hours before someone at AN reworded that part of the story. Turned out to be right decision.

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    An AWD widebody Hellcat would have been $&^ing ridiculous in the best way possible. They should do it. They could charge whatever they wanted for it. Just throw everything at- ceramic brakes, lightweight forged wheels, active suspension, high grade leather, real premium audio system, the works. Charge 80-90K for it. They'd sell every one they built.

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    They really need to get the new platform in production and up to Challenge the others in the segment in all levels. These special cars are cool but the money is made on the volume models. 

    My worry is the Alfa platform has had it's issues when it became an Alfa. I hope they let Chrysler take it and do it right. My other worry has been the rumblings that the Hemi may die and they will only be going with the TTV6. While I am sure it will be a great engine the buyers of the Hemi will be disappointed. If this happens it will be FCA failing not Chrysler's. 

    I want them to make a better car because it make GM work that much harder. A strong three car segment will drive them harder to do better than if it is only a two horse race. 

    Coupes will continue to be a difficult sale moving forward as they will continue to get more expensive. and lower volume. 

    I expect the CUV and small SUV segment to get bit by the performance bug and we will see more options here. While it will not sit well with some it will add much more income to the company's that do go this path. Give a CUV a Raptor/BMW M  like treatment and you can slap on a hefty increase in price and people will buy them. Not saying I like it but just have that feeling it is over due now and they will be moving this way in the future. Chrysler has done it with the larger SUV models now the smaller ones may see similar upgrades. 
     

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    allpar says the LX lasts until the 2021 model year, when Charger and Challenger move to the Giorgio platform. It looks more and more like the 300 will be gone after the 2020 model year. allpar also says the Cherokee will probably eventually move to the Giorgio platform, and the CUSW platform will be history. 

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    On 9/6/2016 at 9:19 PM, Drew Dowdell said:

    Sad to see the LX platform go.  I really like the Chrysler 300 in Hemi form. 

    Agreed, but let's give them a chance and see what they can do.  I really love the Camaro on its new platform...maybe we can get the same kind of love out of Fiat/Chrysler.

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    13 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

    Agreed, but let's give them a chance and see what they can do.  I really love the Camaro on its new platform...maybe we can get the same kind of love out of Fiat/Chrysler.

    Sorry, I just don't trust Serg at this point.

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    1 hour ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    Sorry, I just don't trust Serg at this point.

    I can appreciate that.  Went in to look at a Renegade at a local dealer, asked the sales person what they were going to do if the price of fuel went back up.  Sales person basically said the current thin king is that people would buy Ram and jeep products regardless of the fuel price and that passenger cars were not necessary.  I think this thinking may kind of bite them in the end....

    On 9/9/2016 at 10:35 PM, ehaase said:

    allpar says the LX lasts until the 2021 model year, when Charger and Challenger move to the Giorgio platform. It looks more and more like the 300 will be gone after the 2020 model year. allpar also says the Cherokee will probably eventually move to the Giorgio platform, and the CUSW platform will be history. 

    The 300 is a popular car round here, wonder what they will fill its shoes with...probably nothing, sadly.

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    On 9/12/2016 at 0:59 PM, A Horse With No Name said:

    The 300 is a popular car round here, wonder what they will fill its shoes with...probably nothing, sadly.

    Possibly a large crossover on the minivan platform. 

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    3 hours ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

    Those timelines don't sound right..an AWD Challenger for '17 then a redesign in '18?   

    It's not like they have to redesign anything. The parts are already on the shelf.

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    2 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    It's not like they have to redesign anything. The parts are already on the shelf.

    Just seems like the AWD version would be pretty short lived, at least as far as the current generation...like a final year or two send off.   Though given FCA's current situation, 2018 seems optimistic for anything new..

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    6 hours ago, ehaase said:

    Allpar seems to say the next Charger and Challenger will debut in 2021 not 2018. 

    I'm skeptical that FCA and Dodge will still exist by 2021.  I can see Jeep and Ram continuing under new ownership, though. 

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    51 minutes ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

    I'm skeptical that FCA and Dodge will still exist by 2021.  I can see Jeep and Ram continuing under new ownership, though. 

    I feel your pain...

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    6 hours ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

    I'm skeptical that FCA and Dodge will still exist by 2021.  I can see Jeep and Ram continuing under new ownership, though. 

    ^^^^^ bing.  winner.

     

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      Summary of Honda CEO Speech on Automobile Business Direction
      Remarks by Takahiro Hachigo, President & CEO, Honda Motor Co., Ltd. May 8, 2019
      Honda has been working on two top-priority management challenges in the midst of abrupt changes in the global business environment surrounding the automobile industry: to strengthen the structure of our automobile business and to further increase the speed of business transformation for future generations.
      So, today, I would like to introduce some initiatives we are taking for our automobile business, especially how we are strengthening the structure of our automobile business, the direction we are taking with electrification, as well as some progress we have made to date.
      Strengthening automobile business structure 
      Ever since I became the president of the company, I have been conveying the message that we will make Honda strong by creating strong products and also by strengthening our inter-regional coordination and collaboration. We put special emphasis on the strengthening of our global models, which have been the source of Honda's core competence, and also the enhancement of our regional models.
      As a result, we currently have the five global models, namely Civic, Accord, CR-V, Fit/Jazz and Vezel/HR-V, and these five strong models now account for 60% of our global automobile sales. At the same time, our regional models such as the N Series for Japan, Pilot for North America and Crider for China are playing an important role as a source of growth for each respective region.
      However, as a result of accommodating regional needs somewhat excessively in each individual region, we recognize that the number of models and variations at the trim and option level have increased and our efficiency has declined. So, we will undertake initiatives to further strengthen our inter-regional coordination and collaboration and advance our art of making automobiles in order to simultaneously increase the attractiveness and efficiency of both global and regional models.
      Strengthening inter-regional coordination and collaboration
      As for inter-regional coordination and collaboration, under the new operational structure we adopted for our automobile operations starting from April, we began reviewing and sharing the product lineup by grouping some of our six regions outside Japan based on a similarity of key factors, such as market needs and environmental regulations. With this initiative, by 2025, we will reduce the total number of variations at the trim and option level for our global models to one-third of what we have now. In addition, we will increase efficiency by eliminating and consolidating some similar regional models into even more competent models shared across multiple regions.
      Advancement of our art of making automobiles (automobile development) 
      As for the advancement of automobile development, since I became the president, we have been increasing the efficiency and speed of our Monozukuri (the art of making things) by innovating the entire process, from planning and development all the way through production, by enabling the S-E-D-B (sales, manufacturing, R&D, purchasing*1) functions to collaborate beyond the boundaries of their divisions.
      Moreover, we have already introduced the Honda Architecture in our development.
      The Honda Architecture is a company-wide initiative which will increase the efficiency of development and expand parts-sharing for our mass-production models. The first model being developed with this new method will be the global model we are launching next year. And we will continue increasing the number of models to which we apply this new architecture.
      With the strengthening of global and regional models through inter-regional coordination and collaboration and with the introduction of the Honda Architecture, by 2025, we will reduce the number of manhours we use for the development of mass-production models by 30%, and we will repurpose those manhours to accelerate our research and development in advanced areas for the future. In this way, we can continue creating new technologies which will support the future of Honda.
      Strengthening our operational structure in the area of production 
      In addition to the area of development, we are further strengthening our operational structure in the area of production as well, so that we can create strong products with high efficiency.
      We are making steady progress in optimizing our production capacity in all regions. When this is complete, we are expecting to see that our global capacity utilization rate, excluding China, will increase from 90% recorded in 2018, and we will be producing at full capacity by 2022.
      In China, the third plant of Dongfeng Honda became newly operational, and this put us in a position where we can definitely accommodate market demand in China. We believe that this progress we made paved the way for the optimization of our global production capacity.
      From here onward, we think it is important to increase our competitiveness by increasing the efficiency of our production system in North America.
      For our business in North America, while keeping pace with sales expansion, we enhanced our model lineup and established a flexible production system where our plants sometimes produce various models in duplication to accommodate changes in market demand. However, as a result of the pursuit of high flexibility, an increase in the investment amount and a decline in production efficiency started to become an issue. Therefore, in North America as well, we will reduce the number of variations at the trim and option level, and at the same time, we will simplify the production model allocation at each plant. Through this initiative, we will re-establish a highly-efficient production system and realize the growth of North American business through the pursuit of quality.
      By implementing these initiatives to increase production efficiency in each region, we are expecting to reduce global cost in the area of production by 10% by 2025, compared to the cost recorded in 2018.
      Through all these initiatives I have mentioned, we will steadily strengthen the structure of our automobile business and realize the solidification of our existing automobile businesses by 2025, and, at the same time, we will accelerate our preparation for the future.
      Direction for the electrification of our automobile products
      Striving to realize a carbon-free society, Honda set a goal to electrify two-thirds of our global automobile unit sales by 2030.
      When we talk about the introduction of electrified vehicles, there are two perspectives. One is the improvement of fuel economy, and the other is zero emissions. Regulations for the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards are becoming increasingly stringent in every country around the world and complying with CAFE standards is one of the most important challenges for the automobile industry. At Honda, in light of the required infrastructure and how people use automobiles, we believe that hybrid technology is, at this moment, the most effective way for us to comply with CAFE standards. Therefore, we will electrify our products mainly with hybrid technologies. By increasing sales of our hybrid models all around the world, Honda will contribute to the global environment through the improvement of fuel economy.
      To this end, we will expand the application of our 2-motor hybrid system to the entire lineup of Honda vehicles. In addition to the 2-motor hybrid system which is compatible with mid-to-large-sized vehicles, we developed a new, more compact 2-motor hybrid system suitable for small-sized vehicles. This small-sized 2-motor hybrid system will be adopted first by the all-new Fit which we are planning to exhibit as a world premiere at the Tokyo Motor Show this fall.
      In addition to the expansion of the lineup of products equipped with the 2-motor hybrid system, we also will expand the application of the 2-motor hybrid system on a global basis. With that, by 2022, we are expecting to reduce the cost of the 2-motor hybrid system by 25% compared to the cost of this system in 2018.
      As for zero emission vehicles, with our battery EVs we will comply with the Zero Emission Vehicle (ZEV) program being adopted by California and other states in the U.S. and China's New Energy Vehicle (NEV) mandate. We will efficiently introduce our battery EVs to the market by selecting the most appropriate partners and resources to satisfy the different needs in each region.
      In North America, we will jointly develop battery components with General Motors and introduce highly-competitive battery EVs in the market.   
      In China, in order to keep up with the fast speed of electrification, we have already begun introducing battery EV models developed together with our local joint venture companies in China. While envisioning the introduction of battery EV models from the Honda brand, we will continue utilizing local resources in China and introduce more battery EV models in a timely manner to fulfill local market needs in China.
      In Europe and Japan, we will introduce the Honda e, a new battery EV model, which was recently introduced as a prototype at the Geneva Motor Show.
      To summarize, Honda will popularize and improve the business feasibility of electrified vehicles by focusing on hybrid vehicles and battery EVs.
      Changes in operational structure
      In order to ensure the solid implementation of these initiatives I just introduced for our automobile business, we renewed our operational structure as of April. The aims of this structural change are to establish an organization which brings all regional operations together to strongly facilitate inter-regional coordination and collaboration and to increase the speed of our business operations by enabling prompt decisions and prompt execution.
      Today, I introduced our initiatives to strengthen our automobile business structure and the direction of our electrification. Under the new organizational structure, we will realize our goals with a keen sense of speed. 
      Closing
      As we stated in our 2030 Vision, Honda is striving to grow through the pursuit of quality so that we can fulfill our vision to "Serve people worldwide with the joy of expanding their life's potential."
      Honda will continue taking on new challenges while being driven by strong passion, so that we can continue to be a company that society wants to exist even in 2050 after Honda becomes more than 100 years old. 
      *1 S-E-D-B: Sales, Engineering (Manufacturing), Development (R&D), Buying (Purchasing)
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