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    GM To Launch Two New EVs Within 18 Months, 20 Hydrogen and EVs By 2023

      A mix of electric and hydrogen vehicles


    General Motors is the latest automaker that is preparing for an emissions-free future. Today at GM's technical center in Warren, MI, the company announced plans to introduce 20 electric and hydrogen vehicles by 2023. The first two models of this plan will launch in the next 18 months and will be "based off learnings" from the Chevrolet Bolt.

    “General Motors believes in an all-electric future. Although that future won't happen overnight, GM is committed to driving increased usage and acceptance of electric vehicles through no-compromise solutions that meet our customers' needs,” said Mark Reuss, General Motors executive vice president of Product Development, Purchasing and Supply Chain in a statement.

    Those who were at the technical center got a preview of three clay models featuring the next-generation electric powertrain - a Buick crossover (Encore replacement?), Cadillac wagon, and a pod-looking vehicle.

    GM is also working on building out vehicles using hydrogen powertrains.

    "General Motors believes in an all-electric future... Our electric solution cannot be 'one size fits all.' We believe you need two different flavors of electrification — battery electric and fuel cell electric."

    GM showed off SURUS (Silent Utility Rover Universal Superstructure) which takes the idea of the skateboard hydrogen chassis from the Hy-Wire concept and makes it quite larger - about the size of a commercial truck chassis.

    Source: Automotive News (Subscription Required), Green Car Reports , Roadshow, GM
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    GM Outlines All-Electric Path to Zero Emissions

    DETROIT — General Motors announced today how it is executing on a major element of its vision of a world with zero crashes, zero emissions and zero congestion, recently announced by GM Chairman and CEO Mary Barra.

    “General Motors believes in an all-electric future,” said Mark Reuss, General Motors executive vice president of Product Development, Purchasing and Supply Chain. “Although that future won't happen overnight, GM is committed to driving increased usage and acceptance of electric vehicles through no-compromise solutions that meet our customers' needs.”

    In the next 18 months, GM will introduce two new all-electric vehicles based off learnings from the Chevrolet Bolt EV. They will be the first of at least 20 new all-electric vehicles that will launch by 2023.

    Given customers' various needs, getting to a zero emissions future will require more than just battery electric technology. It will require a two-pronged approach to electrification — battery electric and hydrogen fuel cell electric depending on the unique requirements.

    GM also introduced SURUS — the Silent Utility Rover Universal Superstructure — a fuel cell powered, four-wheel steer concept vehicle on a heavy-duty truck frame that’s driven by two electric motors. With its capability and flexible architecture, SURUS could be used as a delivery vehicle, truck or even an ambulance — all emissions free.

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    Interesting, I get hedging your bet with some Hydrogen ideas, but I really doubt they will be the big win. EV is the future I see.

    Just wish GM was more aggressive here than they currently are.

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    I don't think Fuel Cells are going to catch on, car companies have tried it for 10 years now, no one wants it.  Good to see them planning a lot of EV's, I don't think the Bolt's shape or a Cadillac wagon is the way to go, but if they build sedans and crossovers those will sell.

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    I suspect that GM will build whatever form of electric vehicle that will sell.  The platforms are more important since they can theoretically switch from sedan to crossover to minivan with just a body switch at relatively low cost.

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    3 hours ago, smk4565 said:

    I don't think Fuel Cells are going to catch on, car companies have tried it for 10 years now, no one wants it.  Good to see them planning a lot of EV's, I don't think the Bolt's shape or a Cadillac wagon is the way to go, but if they build sedans and crossovers those will sell.

    fuel cells, "HCCI"... we'll see about the 2nd from Mazda, hopefully "soon" in production(2019 model)

    Riv, yeah, if the "powertrain" can be modular, just pull it out if it's a flop and and change it to the other version...

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    Pretty sure this was new Tesla did not want to hear...

    That said- While I love the idea- I'm not sure we as a country are ready for the demand (power) just yet.

    Now, if we can get more solar into folks homes to power their cars/trucks, it would really help....

    If I were to get a Bolt, I would want to charge off solar power.......

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    10 hours ago, daves87rs said:

    Pretty sure this was new Tesla did not want to hear...

    That said- While I love the idea- I'm not sure we as a country are ready for the demand (power) just yet.

    Now, if we can get more solar into folks homes to power their cars/trucks, it would really help....

    If I were to get a Bolt, I would want to charge off solar power.......

    West coast is ready and the rest will catch up.

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    I wonder how this is going to work with the continued weakness in public interest for electrics?  It's clearly "cart before the horse" and a bit suicidal.  Government regulation is not the same thing as consumer demand.

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    3 hours ago, ocnblu said:

    I wonder how this is going to work with the continued weakness in public interest for electrics?  It's clearly "cart before the horse" and a bit suicidal.  Government regulation is not the same thing as consumer demand.

    First public interest is not weak, as has been stated here by many, the chicken or egg issue in regards to charging and auto options has always been the problem. Many are sitting on the side lines waiting to see what new options they get and many options are coming.

    With this, I see Autoblog did a comparison of sales between the Bolt and Volt and find that many customers prefer the CUV Bolt over the Volt.

    Autoblog story

    Bolt-Volt Sales Comparison.jpg

    Nissan Leaf is also showing the same sales increase for EV's over Hybrids. 

    Like everything and just like ICE in the Early 1900's, those that are willing to adjust their habits are willing to take the ease and savings of owning an EV and charging at their own house or work place and as the Gas Stations become Charging stations with XFC or Xtreme Fast Chargers (Level 4) that gives 300 miles of charge in less than 15 min, we will see habits change on those that are more set in their ways about changing.

    Cart before the Horse maybe, maybe not, clearly I expect you to be one of the last to change over if ever to EV's, yet the bulk of the public will change over in the next 15-20 years as the country changes with the rest of the world regardless of if you believe in Climate change or not. 

    Many are wanting a healthier place to live for themselves, their children and the future of the planet.

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    8 hours ago, ocnblu said:

    I wonder how this is going to work with the continued weakness in public interest for electrics?  It's clearly "cart before the horse" and a bit suicidal.  Government regulation is not the same thing as consumer demand.

    I really am starting to think that at the moment it is lack of selection rather than lack of interest.

    If Honda / Toyota / Chevrolet build a completely EV Accord / Camry / Malibu or RAV4 / CR-V / Equinox with range over 200 miles, I really do believe interest in EVs would increase dramatically.

    Right now, consumers have few choices for plug-ins:

    1. Good range, odd Looking / Ugly, but relatively inexpensive - Bolt, Leaf 2.0

    2. usable range, normal looking, relatively expensive compared to platform mates - Pacifica Hybrid, Volt, Fusion Energie, CMax

    3. "why bother?", normal looking, relatively expensive compared to platform mates - Plug-in Pruis, Honda Accord PHEV

    4. "why bother?" range, normal looking, expensive options - All of the BMW and Mercedes plug-ins.  Volvo has a bit more range, but not much.

    5. Good range, normal looking, expensive - Tesla

    6. usable range, normal looking, expensive - CT6 PHEV

     

    With the exception of the Fusion Energi, there is nothing here in the meat of the market.  No crossovers except for the expensive Model X and the Euros. Nothing AWD except for the Teslas and Euros. No trucks. 

    If there is a lack of interest by consumers in making purchases, I'd argue it is because there is a lack of anything interesting to buy.

     

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    27 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    I really am starting to think that at the moment it is lack of selection rather than lack of interest.

    If Honda / Toyota / Chevrolet build a completely EV Accord / Camry / Malibu or RAV4 / CR-V / Equinox with range over 200 miles, I really do believe interest in EVs would increase dramatically.

    Right now, consumers have few choices for plug-ins:

    1. Good range, odd Looking / Ugly, but relatively inexpensive - Bolt, Leaf 2.0

    2. usable range, normal looking, relatively expensive compared to platform mates - Pacifica Hybrid, Volt, Fusion Energie, CMax

    3. "why bother?", normal looking, relatively expensive compared to platform mates - Plug-in Pruis, Honda Accord PHEV

    4. "why bother?" range, normal looking, expensive options - All of the BMW and Mercedes plug-ins.  Volvo has a bit more range, but not much.

    5. Good range, normal looking, expensive - Tesla

    6. usable range, normal looking, expensive - CT6 PHEV

     

    With the exception of the Fusion Energi, there is nothing here in the meat of the market.  No crossovers except for the expensive Model X and the Euros. Nothing AWD except for the Teslas and Euros. No trucks. 

    If there is a lack of interest by consumers in making purchases, I'd argue it is because there is a lack of anything interesting to buy.

     

    It for sure is due to lack of choices.  I think the shape of the Bolt and Leaf hurt sales.  If they were conventional sedans or crossovers they would sell better.  I think that is why there is huge demand for the Model 3, it is a normal sedan, plus Tesla is gotta have brand.

    Plug in hybrids are a stop gap product, in 10 years the batteries will have 300 mile range and recharge in 10 minutes and weigh less than they do now, and at that point why bother with a plug in.  

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    34 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    It for sure is due to lack of choices.  I think the shape of the Bolt and Leaf hurt sales.  If they were conventional sedans or crossovers they would sell better.  I think that is why there is huge demand for the Model 3, it is a normal sedan, plus Tesla is gotta have brand.

    Plug in hybrids are a stop gap product, in 10 years the batteries will have 300 mile range and recharge in 10 minutes and weigh less than they do now, and at that point why bother with a plug in.  

    Not just a stop-gap. They are the stepping stone.  They help create demand for the plug-in infrastructure that is currently lacking. 

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    Had to reread the press release and realized that GM is going to invest in the charging network it sounds like here in the US after stating they would be helping with investing in the XFC system in Europe.

    Fletcher said GM is planning to introduce the new vehicles in key, emerging segments. She also added that GM will help with "accelerating" the deployment of rapid-charging stations for its customers. There are currently more than 1,100 available publicly to GM customers in the United States. She declined to provide further details, citing more details "to come soon."

    So I take this as a positive sign that GM will help with the build out of the charging network and I hope in the details to come that it is all based on XFC systems.

    XFC = Xtreme Fast Charging has two levels, first one is a 350 Volt system. Second level is the one Porsche is pushing the 800 Volt system. Both can charge on par with gas dispensing.

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    5 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    I really am starting to think that at the moment it is lack of selection rather than lack of interest.

    If Honda / Toyota / Chevrolet build a completely EV Accord / Camry / Malibu or RAV4 / CR-V / Equinox with range over 200 miles, I really do believe interest in EVs would increase dramatically.

    Right now, consumers have few choices for plug-ins:

    1. Good range, odd Looking / Ugly, but relatively inexpensive - Bolt, Leaf 2.0

    2. usable range, normal looking, relatively expensive compared to platform mates - Pacifica Hybrid, Volt, Fusion Energie, CMax

    3. "why bother?", normal looking, relatively expensive compared to platform mates - Plug-in Pruis, Honda Accord PHEV

    4. "why bother?" range, normal looking, expensive options - All of the BMW and Mercedes plug-ins.  Volvo has a bit more range, but not much.

    5. Good range, normal looking, expensive - Tesla

    6. usable range, normal looking, expensive - CT6 PHEV

     

    With the exception of the Fusion Energi, there is nothing here in the meat of the market.  No crossovers except for the expensive Model X and the Euros. Nothing AWD except for the Teslas and Euros. No trucks. 

    If there is a lack of interest by consumers in making purchases, I'd argue it is because there is a lack of anything interesting to buy.

     

    VW E-Golf, Focus Electric and 500E all look largely identical to their normal counterparts, yet they sell abysmally.  Mercedes has reduced the number of Smart dealerships to coincide with Smart's dumb move to all-electric... to adjust for demand.  Your argument is silly.

    7 hours ago, FAPTurbo said:

    who'd be the bigger horse's ass in that situation?

    I believe that would be your mother.

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    7 hours ago, smk4565 said:

    It for sure is due to lack of choices.  I think the shape of the Bolt and Leaf hurt sales.  If they were conventional sedans or crossovers they would sell better.

    This theory doesn't come CLOSE to being borne out by the sales numbers.

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    2 hours ago, ocnblu said:

    VW E-Golf, Focus Electric and 500E all look largely identical to their normal counterparts, yet they sell abysmally.  Mercedes has reduced the number of Smart dealerships to coincide with Smart's dumb move to all-electric... to adjust for demand.  Your argument is silly.

    I believe that would be your mother.

    All all three of those cars you mention also have very short ranges compared to cars like the Bolt. It’s not hard to figure out the problem there and it has jack squat to do with looks, in this case. 

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    6 hours ago, surreal1272 said:

    All all three of those cars you mention also have very short ranges compared to cars like the Bolt. It’s not hard to figure out the problem there and it has jack squat to do with looks, in this case. 

    One of Drew's apologies for weak electric sales penetration was odd appearance of the big players.  So I met him at that juncture.

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    13 hours ago, ocnblu said:

    VW E-Golf, Focus Electric and 500E all look largely identical to their normal counterparts, yet they sell abysmally.  Mercedes has reduced the number of Smart dealerships to coincide with Smart's dumb move to all-electric... to adjust for demand.  Your argument is silly.

    You just mentioned 3 compliance auto's that are only sold in select states and not available nation wide. On top of that the 500e was killed off. So the argument is not silly it is valid that Drew posted. There is little choice at this time other than Leaf or Bolt.

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    4 hours ago, ocnblu said:

    One of Drew's apologies for weak electric sales penetration was odd appearance of the big players.  So I met him at that juncture.

    Except at that juncture, it is not an apples to apples comparison. 

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    13 hours ago, ocnblu said:

    VW E-Golf, Focus Electric and 500E all look largely identical to their normal counterparts, yet they sell abysmally.  Mercedes has reduced the number of Smart dealerships to coincide with Smart's dumb move to all-electric... to adjust for demand.  Your argument is silly.

    I believe that would be your mother.

    E-Golf - Range 112 miles, starting price $30k, $11k more than a base Golf

    Focus Electric - Range 118 miles city / 96 miles highway, starting price $29k, however, Ford is giving them away with $10k worth of incentives right now

    Fiat 500E - Range 87 miles, starting price $32,600 and only sold in California

    All of those fit in classification #2 of "usable range", "Normal looking", "substantially more expensive than platform mates". 

    Range is still a factor. Anything between 40 miles and 100 miles I consider usable, but not great. Anything over 200 will be able to suit most typical drivers, even if they don't realize it yet.   The Volt gets around the range issue by having the regenerator, it looks like a fancy Cruze, but it is still rather pricey compared to a Cruze.  The three you mentioned still have range anxiety issues being lower than the 200 mile mark. 

    The Bolt is the first in this price class to get over 200 miles to a charge.... my argument is that it would sell even better if it looked more like a normal car instead of an egg.  I personally don't think it looks bad, but I don't think it has visual appeal to the mass market. Bolt powertrain in a Malibu at only a slight premium over an LT model (say something around like the price premium of buying a diesel), and you'd start to see some real movement in sales.   In my own case, I'd like a plug-in, but there are none yet that meet the requirements within our budget.  The closest I can get right now is the new XC60 PHEV. 

    SMART is just dumb anyway, the sales there have been tanking for years and dealers who saw the opportunity to exit, did so.  If I were a Benz dealer, I wouldn't have kept SMART around absent any announcement that they were going to expand the brand into a family car brand.

    11 hours ago, balthazar said:

    This theory doesn't come CLOSE to being borne out by the sales numbers.

    There are no statistics to back up either claim since the vehicles I am referring to do not exist on the market. 

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      Future models will utilize a new modular electric platform, known as the Electric Modular Architecture (EMA). The planned XJ replacement, rumored to go electric has been canceled. Likely reason for the cancelation is the platform that was going to be used for this model likely didn't scale to other models. Jaguar did say the XJ name could appear again on a future model. Automotive News (Subscription Required) reports that Jaguar will also move away from SUV-styled vehicles, likely meaning the end of the E and F-Pace. Land Rover

      Land Rover isn't going to dive in quickly as Jaguar into EVs. The plan is to continue offering a mix of powertrains, but with a heavy focus on electrification. Six all-electric models are planned to be launched by 2030, with the first model coming out in 2024. No word on what that model would be, but our guess is possibly a Range Rover EV. Land Rover will use Electric Modular Architecture for EVs, alongside the Modular Longitudinal Architecture (MLA) for hybrids. The goal is to have 60 percent of Land Rover sales be for electrics by 2030.
      Other Details
      Jaguar Land Rover said that it would keep all three of its U.K. plans open, but the Castle Bromwich plant(home to Jaguar XE, XF, and F-Type production) has a unclear future.
      “First we will continue production of our existing nameplates built there to the end of their lifecycle. Then we will explore opportunities to refurbish the plant, which could benefit from the consolidation of businesses scattered across the Midlands,” said Bolloré.
      Jaguar Land Rover is also planning on moving their executive team and other major management positions to a centralized location in Gaydon, and work more closely with their parent company, Tata Group.
      Source: Jaguar Land Rover
      Jaguar Land Rover reimagines the future of modern luxury by design
      New global strategy – Reimagine – announced for the British company under the leadership of Chief Executive Officer, Thierry Bolloré A sustainability-rich reimagination of modern luxury, unique customer experiences, and positive societal impact Start of journey to become a net zero carbon business by 2039 Reimagination of Jaguar as an all-electric luxury brand from 2025 to ‘realise its unique potential’ In the next five years, Land Rover will welcome six pure electric variants as it continues to be the world leader of luxury SUVs All Jaguar and Land Rover nameplates to be available in pure electric form by end of the decade; first all-electric Land Rover model in 2024 Clean-hydrogen fuel-cell power being developed in preparation for future demand Streamlined structure to deliver greater agility and promote an efficiency of focus Global manufacturing and assembly footprint to be retained, rightsized, repurposed and reorganised Collaborations and knowledge-sharing with industry leaders, in particular from within the wider Tata Group will allow the company to explore potential synergies on clean energy, connected services, data and software development leadership On a path towards double-digit EBIT margin and positive cash flow, with an ambition to achieve positive cash net-of-debt by 2025 with a value creation approach delivering quality and profit-over-volume Gaydon, UK - Monday 15th February 2021:
      A vision of modern luxury by design
      Jaguar Land Rover will reimagine the future of modern luxury by design through its two distinct, British brands.
      Set against a canvas of true sustainability, Jaguar Land Rover will become a more agile creator of the world’s most desirable luxury vehicles and services for the most discerning of customers. A strategy that is designed to create a new benchmark in environmental, societal and community impact for a luxury business.
      “Jaguar Land Rover is unique in the global automotive industry. Designers of peerless models, an unrivalled understanding of the future luxury needs of its customers, emotionally rich brand equity, a spirit of Britishness and unrivalled access to leading global players in technology and sustainability within the wider Tata Group.
      “We are harnessing those ingredients today to reimagine the business, the two brands and the customer experience of tomorrow. The Reimagine strategy allows us to enhance and celebrate that uniqueness like never before. Together, we can design an even more sustainable and positive impact on the world around us,” said Mr Bolloré.
      Two distinct modern luxury brands with sustainability at the centre
      At the heart of its Reimagine plan will be the electrification of both Land Rover and Jaguar brands on separate architectures with two clear, unique personalities.
      In a Land Rover, vehicle and driver are united by adventure. By breaking new ground, confronting new challenges and not being content with the expected, Land Rover truly helps people to go ‘Above and Beyond’. In the next five years, Land Rover will welcome six pure electric variants as it continues to be the world leader of luxury SUVs through its three families of Range Rover, Discovery and Defender. The first all-electric variant will arrive in 2024.
      By the middle of the decade, Jaguar will have undergone a renaissance to emerge as a pure electric luxury brand with a dramatically beautiful new portfolio of emotionally engaging designs and pioneering next-generation technologies. Jaguar will exist to make life extraordinary by creating dramatically beautiful automotive experiences that leave its customers feeling unique and rewarded. Although the nameplate may be retained, the planned Jaguar XJ replacement will not form part of the line-up, as the brand looks to realise its unique potential.
      Jaguar and Land Rover will offer pure electric power, nameplate by nameplate, by 2030. By this time, in addition to 100% of Jaguar sales, it is anticipated that around 60% of Land Rovers sold will be equipped with zero tailpipe powertrains.
      Jaguar Land Rover’s aim is to achieve net zero carbon emissions across its supply chain, products and operations by 2039. As part of this ambition, the company is also preparing for the expected adoption of clean fuel-cell power in line with a maturing of the hydrogen economy. Development is already underway with prototypes arriving on UK roads within the next 12 months as part of the long-term investment programme.
      Sustainability that delivers a new benchmark in environmental and societal impact for the luxury sector is fundamental to the success of Reimagine. A new centralised team will be empowered to build on and accelerate pioneering innovations in materiality, engineering, manufacturing, services and circular economy investments. 
      Annual commitments of circa £2.5bn will include investments in electrification technologies and the development of connected services to enhance the journey and experiences of customers, alongside data-centric technologies that will further improve their ownership ecosystem.
      Proven services like the flexible PIVOTAL subscription model (which has grown 750% during the fiscal year), born out of Jaguar Land Rover’s incubator and investor arm, InMotion, will now be rolled out to other markets following a successful launch in the UK.
      Quality and efficiency
      Reimagine will see Jaguar Land Rover establish new benchmark standards in quality and efficiency for the luxury sector by rightsizing, repurposing and reorganising.
      Central to that journey, and in order to establish different personalities for the two brands, is the new architecture strategy. 
      Land Rover will use the forthcoming flex Modular Longitudinal Architecture (MLA). It will deliver electrified internal combustion engines (ICE) and full electric variants as the company evolves its product line-up in the future. In addition, Land Rover will also use pure electric biased Electric Modular Architecture (EMA) which will also support advanced electrified ICE.
      Future Jaguar models will be built exclusively on a pure electric architecture.
      Reimagine is designed to deliver simplification too. By consolidating the number of platforms and models being produced per plant, the company will be able to establish new benchmark standards in efficient scale and quality for the luxury sector. Such an approach will help rationalise sourcing and accelerate investments in local circular economy supply chains.
      From a core manufacturing perspective that means Jaguar Land Rover will retain its plant and assembly facilities in the home UK market and around the world. As well as being the manufacturer of the MLA architecture, Solihull, West Midlands will also be the home to the future advanced Jaguar pure electric platform. 
      Key partners including Trade Unions, retailers and those in the supply chain will continue to play a vital part of the extended new Jaguar Land Rover ecosystem and its journey towards reimagining the future of modern luxury.
      ReFocus to a more agile operation
      As evidenced with the latest financial results, Jaguar Land Rover has a strong foundation on which to build a sustainable and resilient business for its customers and their communities, partners, employees, shareholders and the environment.
      Driving this transformation is the recently launched Refocus programme, by consolidating existing initiatives like Charge+ with new cross-functional activities.
      Reimagine will see Jaguar Land Rover right-size, repurpose and reorganise into a more agile operation. The creation of a flatter structure is designed to empower employees to create and deliver at speed and with clear purpose.
      To accelerate this efficiency of focus, the company will substantially reduce and rationalise its non-manufacturing infrastructure in the UK. Gaydon will become the symbol of this effort – the ‘reactor’ of the business - with the Executive Team and other management functions moving into the one location to aid frictionless cooperation and agile decision-making.  
      Leapfrog to leadership with Tata Group
      In order to realise its vision of modern luxury mobility with confidence, the company will curate closer collaboration and knowledge-sharing with Tata Group companies to enhance sustainability and reduce emissions as well as sharing best practice in next-generation technology, data and software development leadership. Jaguar Land Rover has been a wholly-owned subsidiary of Tata Motors, in which Tata Sons is the largest shareholder, since 2008.
      “We have so many ingredients from within. It is a unique opportunity,” said Mr Bolloré. “Others have to rely solely on external partnerships and compromise, but we have frictionless access that will allow us to lean forward with confidence and at speed.”
      Bringing all these ingredients together, Jaguar Land Rover is on a path towards double-digit EBIT margins and positive cash flow, with an ambition to achieve positive cash net-of-debt by 2025. 
      Ultimately, Jaguar Land Rover aims to be one of the most profitable luxury manufacturers in the world.
      Mr N Chandrasekaran, Chairman of Tata Sons, Tata Motors and Jaguar Land Rover Automotive plc commented: “The Reimagine strategy takes Jaguar Land Rover on a significant path of acceleration in harmony with the vision and sustainability priorities of the wider Tata Group. Together, we will help Jaguar realise its potential, reinforce Land Rover’s timeless appeal and collectively become a symbol of a truly responsible business for its customers, society and the planet.”
      Mr Bolloré concluded: “As a human-centred company, we can, and will, move much faster and with clear purpose of not just reimagining modern luxury but defining it for two distinct brands. Brands that present emotionally unique designs, pieces of art if you like, but all with connected technologies and responsible materials that collectively set new standards in ownership. We are reimagining a new modern luxury by design.”
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      This is a polar opposite to comments made last year by Larry Dominique, CEO of PSA North America.
      Imparto's focus for Peugeot in the near future is concentrating on its core markets - Europe, the Middle East, Africa, and Latin America. There are also plans to get the brand back on track in China. As for the U.S., Imparto said it was "still on the table" down the road.
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    • By William Maley
      Yesterday, Fiat Chrysler Automobiles and Groupe PSA officially merged to become Stellantis, the fourth-largest automaker in the world. But this merge has produced some consequences that need to be addressed. One of those being Peugeot's re-entry back in to the U.S.
      “We were last speaking about [Peugeot’s U.S. re-entry] a year and a half ago, before Stellantis. We can’t not take into account that in the coming days Peugeot will be part of this new world. I imagine in the coming months due to the new strategy we will have to adapt and reconsider all elements, including this one,” said Peugeot CEO Jean-Philippe Imparato to Automotive News.
      A key reason for this reconsideration not wanting overlap brands in the U.S.
      This is a polar opposite to comments made last year by Larry Dominique, CEO of PSA North America.
      Imparto's focus for Peugeot in the near future is concentrating on its core markets - Europe, the Middle East, Africa, and Latin America. There are also plans to get the brand back on track in China. As for the U.S., Imparto said it was "still on the table" down the road.
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