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My HHR and a honda got into it last night

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I love how parents pick hondas because they think they are so reliable and safe.

Last night a young girl couldn't stop in time on wet pavement due to not having ABS. Her brakes locked up and she ended up rear ending the HHR. Had she had the same year Cavalier she would have avoided hitting me because of having ABS. At any rate, she was going about 20 mph and did some decent damage to the honda but very little to the HHR. One of her friends pulled over to see if she was ok and upon inspecting the cars told her that if she had bought a Chevy the damage would not be so bad and with the ABS she would have stopped in time. Funny, I didn't even need to say anything.

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Its not the car, its the driver whenever someone gets rear-ended. I dont have ABS and I have never rear-ended someone. And anyone in their right mind would take that generation Civic over a similar vintage Cavalier, because frankly those Cavvys sucked hard and those Civics are comfortable and (despite what you may think) run forever and are safe.

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Yeah, I don't buy it. I would still put up the extra money for a car with ABS.

For an experienced "good" driver, ABS isn't necessary. For a young girl, it is.

BTW: The estimate for the HHR came to $475. I'm sure it's in the thousands for the honda.

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My brother and I were driving the 2000 Civic my dad had when it was totaled, the car crumpled like a tin can. After seeing that I refuse to drive a small car, or at least one that doesn't have normal stuff like working bumpers lol. Glad everyones ok, and hopefully this accident created another Honda trade in at the local Chevy dealer.

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I'm sure it's in the thousands for the honda.

An old car like that I wouldn't even bother spending money on to fix...take a rubber mallet and beat the hood out so it latches, duct tape the bumper in place..

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As much as I hate to rain on the anti-import parade, I was unlucky enough to be rear-ended by an `84 Town Car while in the Prizm (you know, a Corolla). Pissed me off to no end that he wasn't paying attention but there was no damage to the car beyond a few scratches.

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I would think the rears of cars are typically better than the fronts, as far as wreck damage.

As much as I hate to rain on the anti-import parade, I was unlucky enough to be rear-ended by an `84 Town Car while in the Prizm (you know, a Corolla). Pissed me off to no end that he wasn't paying attention but there was no damage to the car beyond a few scratches.

so was it totaled? lol

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once a 99 civic rearended my moms 00 Intrigue back in 2002. Civic Totalled, frame crumpled and engine dropped to the pavment, air bag deployment the whole shebang. Intrigue needed paint and the bumper to be realigned. The bumper didn't even need to be replaced! Just pulled it off painted it and popped it back on. That intrigue also caused $5k worth of damage for a ford explorer once. It was an emergency stop situation on the highway. Explorer was following me too close and when I had to haul to a stop to avoid a disabled car it rearended. The explorer was nose diving so much that it made solid contact with the intrigues bumper rather than riding up over it and FUBARing the car. Intrigued needed a new bumper and shock mounts for about 600. The explorer wasnt so fortunate.

The car also killed a full grown buck by sideswiping it once. Minor scractch front fender. We alwasy joked that the car was invincible.

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I love how parents pick hondas because they think they are so reliable and safe.

Last night a young girl couldn't stop in time on wet pavement due to not having ABS. Her brakes locked up and she ended up rear ending the HHR. Had she had the same year Cavalier she would have avoided hitting me because of having ABS. At any rate, she was going about 20 mph and did some decent damage to the honda but very little to the HHR. One of her friends pulled over to see if she was ok and upon inspecting the cars told her that if she had bought a Chevy the damage would not be so bad and with the ABS she would have stopped in time. Funny, I didn't even need to say anything.

The only way she could have rear ended you in a Cavalier is if you drove to the Chevrolet Dealer service department, and backed up into her car.

:AH-HA_wink:

Looks like a conflict of vehicle heights. Your rear bumper collided with her grille and head lights. Most small cars would likely suffer similar bumper and head light damage. I rear ended a Mazda 3 in my Integra, and knocked his bumper off. Zero damage to my car, not even a scratch. ;] Just my pride... :banghead:

once a 99 civic rearended my moms 00 Intrigue back in 2002. Civic Totalled, frame crumpled and engine dropped to the pavment, air bag deployment the whole shebang. Intrigue needed paint and the bumper to be realigned. The bumper didn't even need to be replaced! Just pulled it off painted it and popped it back on. That intrigue also caused $5k worth of damage for a ford explorer once. It was an emergency stop situation on the highway. Explorer was following me too close and when I had to haul to a stop to avoid a disabled car it rearended. The explorer was nose diving so much that it made solid contact with the intrigues bumper rather than riding up over it and FUBARing the car. Intrigued needed a new bumper and shock mounts for about 600. The explorer wasnt so fortunate.

The car also killed a full grown buck by sideswiping it once. Minor scractch front fender. We alwasy joked that the car was invincible.

Sounds like the Intrigue has a pretty hefty rear end if an Explorer lost to it ;]

My brother and I were driving the 2000 Civic my dad had when it was totaled, the car crumpled like a tin can. After seeing that I refuse to drive a small car, or at least one that doesn't have normal stuff like working bumpers lol. Glad everyones ok, and hopefully this accident created another Honda trade in at the local Chevy dealer.

You fail to see the point of crumple zones. The front of the car crumples like a can to lessen the impact to the occupants.

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OUCH! Sorry to hear about the HHR.

Reminds me of what I said to my friend Lisa when she wrecked her Honda. I had my 55 Chevy in the driveway at the time and I said "Lisa, my Chevy has been on the road for over 50 years without a scratch and your Honda is only two weeks old and it's already beat up."

For some reason she wasn't real impressed.

Chris

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my cousin had a 2002 civic, she backed into my 69 impala corner of her rear bumper to corner of my rear bumper... total anialation. rubber was no match for my steel hehe i just scraped off the green paint and she just... well got a new rear bumper. she got rearended later on in the car and the frame broke, insurance company wanted to weld it back together instead of totaling it but my aunt wouldnt have anything to do with that plan.

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Its not the car, its the driver whenever someone gets rear-ended. I dont have ABS and I have never rear-ended someone. And anyone in their right mind would take that generation Civic over a similar vintage Cavalier, because frankly those Cavvys sucked hard and those Civics are comfortable and (despite what you may think) run forever and are safe.

QFT.

Never once has the lack of ABS given me trouble. I even disconnected it in my Millenia. And anyone who buys a Cavalier over a Civic lacks intelligence.

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And anyone who buys a Cavalier over a Civic lacks intelligence.

Again, quoted for truth.

Chris

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And anyone who buys a Cavalier over a Civic lacks intelligence.

QTF

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Yikes, Dsuupr ... sorry about the rear-ending of your HHR.

Glad nobody was seriously hurt.

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QFT.

Never once has the lack of ABS given me trouble. I even disconnected it in my Millenia. And anyone who buys a Cavalier over a Civic lacks intelligence.

What if you bought a cavalier because it was cheap and wasn't compared to other cars? :P

Agreed about the ABS though. None of my cars have them, nor need them. It's not that hard to drive.

My next car will have ABS, only because it will be the "family" car.

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Poor car. (the HHR)

:yes:

make sure it gets a good hot wax after that.... :)

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The HHR estimate came to less than $500 and the civic has over $4000 in damage.

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Pssh, You could put the Civic back together for a few hundred and some elbow grease.

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QFT.

Never once has the lack of ABS given me trouble. I even disconnected it in my Millenia. And anyone who buys a Cavalier over a Civic lacks intelligence.

Gee. My sisters 1995 Cavalier has 200,000 on it. Does that mean we lack intelligence? After seeing what sheetmetal on a Civic is made of No way!! I too am able to drive without ABS. Never rear ended a car with any of the old cars I have had. ABS does make it EASIER to make a panic stop if the surface is slippery but it can be done without it if you know what you are doing.

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Gee. My sisters 1995 Cavalier has 200,000 on it. Does that mean we lack intelligence? After seeing what sheetmetal on a Civic is made of No way!! I too am able to drive without ABS. Never rear ended a car with any of the old cars I have had. ABS does make it EASIER to make a panic stop if the surface is slippery but it can be done without it if you know what you are doing.

It's ok, I don't think BV was calling people who own cavaliers stupid....

My guess is they are talking about people who are shopping many different brands of compacts...and bought a Cav over say a Civic and a Focus. Toward the end, the Cavalier looked super outdated compared to pretty much compact out there...

Used, on the other hand, is a different story.....

I had ABS in my old Cav wagon, and I think I used it a few times...to me, it is ok to have, but I don't really need it....I've done just fine without it....

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Here is what it comes to. How much money do you have to spend for a car. It doesn't matter what size, or what brand, it comes down to what is available in your pocket book.

In my local area (50 mile radius via autotrader.com) you cannot find a honda (even without ABS) with less than 100k for less than $6000. There are multiple GM products available under $6000 that have less than 90,000 miles with ABS, including; Buick Century, Regal, Chevrolet Malibu, Chevrolet Cavalier . . .

I don't care what anyone tells me, a used Century with 90k and babied by an old man will last ALOT more miles than a 120k mile honda that has been abused by some young kid. Infact, given the same situation, I would still put my money on the Century before the honda. Add in the cost of timing belts, new water pump and the other crap hondas need that GM products don't, and I've saved more moeny than I will ever save on gas by owning the honda.

hondas AND toyotas are a waste of money.

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Here is what it comes to. How much money do you have to spend for a car. It doesn't matter what size, or what brand, it comes down to what is available in your pocket book.

In my local area (50 mile radius via autotrader.com) you cannot find a honda (even without ABS) with less than 100k for less than $6000. There are multiple GM products available under $6000 that have less than 90,000 miles with ABS, including; Buick Century, Regal, Chevrolet Malibu, Chevrolet Cavalier . . .

I don't care what anyone tells me, a used Century with 90k and babied by an old man will last ALOT more miles than a 120k mile honda that has been abused by some young kid. Infact, given the same situation, I would still put my money on the Century before the honda. Add in the cost of timing belts, new water pump and the other crap hondas need that GM products don't, and I've saved more moeny than I will ever save on gas by owning the honda.

:yes:

And the early 00s Kia's are not holding up well either....I counted 4 02-05 kia Rios in the junkyard with teriminal issues...

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