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GM disbands unit that creates high-performance vehicles

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Jamie LaReau

Automotive News

February 18, 2009 - 5:05 pm ET

DETROIT -- General Motors, focusing on mainstream products in a battle to survive, has scrapped a unit that produced high-performance vehicles.

GM today disbanded High Performance Vehicle Operations, which is based at the company's suburban Detroit technical center, and redeployed its engineers, said spokesman Vince Muniga.

"All high-performance projects are on indefinite hold," Muniga said. "The engineers are moving into different areas of the organization, and they will work on Cadillacs, Buicks, Chevrolets and Pontiacs."

The unit created low-volume vehicles for GM's divisions designed to appeal to enthusiasts and bolster the company's image. Products included V-series Cadillacs and the Chevrolet Cobalt SS, HHR SS and a V-8 version of the Colorado.

Muniga said there are no plans for high-performance versions of upcoming cars.The move is in the spirit of GM's viability plan delivered to the U.S. Treasury Department on Tuesday. In the plan, GM said its future-product focus is on fuel- efficient cars and crossovers. It also pledged to increase its current offering of six hybrids to 14 by 2012 and to 26 by 2014. GM also boosted its request for federal aid by as much as $16.6 billion.

The High Performance Vehicle Operations unit could be reinstated once GM regains its financial health, GM's Muniga said.

"These guys are pretty good at what they do," Muniga said, "They are moving into different areas to work on core products."

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This means no Z28 Camaro, oh well if me or my son got one it would only be an SS anyways.

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I agree Camino but it will look good to all the dead beats in DC that GM is working on "green cars" and not performance ones. Stupid f*ckers.

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Yeah sure - heard that before...

Maybe I should drive to your place and buy you a drink.

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Sounds good... performance division engineers moving in to engineer normal cars. If that means John Heinricy is going to Nurburgring the next Malibu, how bad could that be?

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While I do not like it, mothballing the dept for the time being to secure the $ for the survival of GM is the right thing to do since they do already have various performance models. So do this to get your survival and then turn it back on and kick ass there again. All Good in the long range plan of things. :D

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Heinricy retired. No big loss, its not like they're canning the engineers, they're keeping them in the company, so they can come back if GM becomes financially viable.

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I would think most of us here are informed enough and understand well enough what is at play here.

First off it is not a forever thing GM hints at that right in its statment wink wink.

Second when youre asking for $16 Billion on top of 14 Billion from DC it is best to appear PC while your asking.

Third these cars are great cars but they were not going to save GM. GM needs to get it's house in order before they play.

Fourth. We still have some performance vehicles to carry till GM is in a better way to bring the fun cars back.

Five GM pulled out performance and racing in the late 50's and in the 70's only to return a few years later. Both front door and back door performance was avaiable.

Sixth This should not have been a suprise when John Heinrency retired last month and unce Bob made his anouncment.

Seven How many times when Ford was hurting for money did SHO and SVT nearly vanish only to return with even better cars.

Eight Having the folks from GMPD building the volume cars may not be a bad thing. Who better? They have been building some of the best sorted GM cars in years if ever. A little of that on the high volume cars may just give up regular cars we don't hate.

Nine If you want to worry about performance you had better worry about what you're elected officals are doing. A lot of Evro Zelots are in line for pay back for getting many elected this year. In Oregon right now they want to pass laws that will prevent you from putting on larger, sticker tires and wheels on your car. They also want to prevent any upgrades that they deem could effect mileage and CO levels. This is more a danger to your performance needs and your own personel freedom.

Ten We will still see performance in the next few years not just in the Camaro but other well placed option boxes that will provide suspensions and engine combo's that may lack a SS emblem but will provide the fun you look for in driving.

I know this new sucks but we know what this game is and it has to be playes out. GM needs to get its house righted and then they can play again. Lets just hope those elected just don't make us all out laws with their eviro legislation as that is the true danger.

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Unfortunately the way the fools at Disney on the Potomac are running things and passing laws that continue to infringe more and more on our personal freedoms, I can only see the overall picture for all US citizens getting worse, not better. And I don't think there will be any significant change in that direction unless and until the US population at large gets fed up enough to finally say enough is enough. And it is a terrible thing that the country would ever have to reach that point, but I certainly have not seen anything in my almost 6 decades of life in this country but less freedom year after year.

Clyde

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<sarcasm>

Well, Toyota doesn't do performance cars..and the public loves Toyota, and GM wants to emulate them...

</sarcasm>

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This means no Z28 Camaro, oh well if me or my son got one it would only be an SS anyways.

The z28 is done... GM just needs to produce it. (Not that I think they will) But there is no engineering work left.

Re: GM disbanding high performance.

I appreciate that the engineers will be used other places.

But.

Not surprising... It's just one more reason for me not to care anymore. GM now is what GM was in the 90s... half-assed mainstream crap that will fall flat on it's face.

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GM is going in to Toyota mode. :wink:

But seriously, the little money they have has to be spent on more important, mainstream stuff so they can actually make money. Perhaps teh normal cars will be more sporty now. They can always regroup...as said, teh engineers aren't leaving.

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Sounds good... performance division engineers moving in to engineer normal cars. If that means John Heinricy is going to Nurburgring the next Malibu, how bad could that be?

Thought he was retiring...

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While I do not like it, mothballing the dept for the time being to secure the $ for the survival of GM is the right thing to do since they do already have various performance models. So do this to get your survival and then turn it back on and kick ass there again. All Good in the long range plan of things. :D

Ford mothballed SVT and it never returned (despite the cute badging trick on the new Shelby)

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So does this mean there will be no V8 Camaro?

Other than the Z28 that is on done but on hold the Camaro program is a go and will be around till 2016. V6 and V8 intact.

And before it is also asked yea there is going to be a Vette and G8, A HHR SS, Cobalt SS and V series CTS next year. They are just not developing a new Chevy Cruze SS, Volt SS or Orland SS.

Give it time and this will pass as long as Washington does not take your rights to own such car away.

Too many people today freak out at the smoke and completly miss the fire!

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I think this is OK. The high performance cars were kinda hit or miss, IMO. For example, the Trailblazer SS had great performance for an SUV, but who really cared? I think their efforts would be better spent improving the driving response of the more humdrum products. How many people buy the HHR SS?

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I'd rather see performance "baked" into all of GM vehicles - not just the specialty, low volume cars.

They could sink into Toyota mode, or look at Honda (and Ford Europe) - regardless of power, all their vehicles are quite sporty and handle well.

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And so it begins.....sad, really. :(

I'm going with Camino on this one......

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