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Car and Driver - 10Best

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I'm surprised the A3 made it, and I'm also a little surprised the TSX made it since it seems to be getting a little old.
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I'm surprised the A3 made it, and I'm also a little surprised the TSX made it since it seems to be getting a little old.

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Same here. I'm surprised that the new Civic Si or IS350 didn't make it either.
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In the past, each vehicle represented a market segment. I don't know if they still break it down like that. Missing this year are the Acura RL, Dodge Magnum, and Mercedes SLK350, replaced by the A3, Miata, and Boxster. The 300C got upgraded to the SRT-8 model.
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From all accounts, the RX-8 is an oil and gas burning pig. Sounds like they were desperate to come up with ten this year.
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[quote name='giantshark18' date='Nov 17 2005, 08:46 PM']
Wow, no Toyota products. Could the world be coming to an end?? :o

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When the vette or 3er don't make the top 10, then the world might be coming to an end...
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Or the Accord, its been on almost every C&D Top 10 since they started doing it.
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All those car can't match the Cadillac Deville nor the Lincoln Town Car .

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What in the living hell are you talking about? :blink:

Two domestic luxo-barges, based on old mechanicals, are NEVER going to win any kind of best award, unless compared against one another only. Nice cars, but not even REMOTELY worthy of this kind of award.

Some other notes:
-The TSX is still somewhat of an "oddball", but based on everything I've ever seen and read, it just seems like one of the most refined, high quality small sedans available ANYWHERE for under $30k, which is why it always wins. I remember, once, they said it "defined the term precision" in every move and feel.
-300C....I think that one pretty much explains itself :AH-HA_wink:
-Corvette and Mustang....again :AH-HA_wink:

All in all, just as expected, and all are very worthy of the award.

Second Thought: Wouldn't it be interesting if GM had a sedan that could even remotely excel at almost everything like the Accord does, year after year? Like, for instance, if the G6 was similar in size to the current car, but had top-shelf interior materials and design, clean, crisp outside lines, and the 2.4L with 5-spd manual or auto and the 3.6L with 6-spd manual or auto ONLY? Hell, ditching the growly OHV engines alone would probably push it up several notches in the rankings. Oh well, just thought that'd be an interesting suggestion.... B) Edited by caddycruiser
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Seriously, when a Golf is so similar. Pointless.
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What make the mustang worth being top 10??

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Took the words right out of my mouth.
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Gotta-have factor apparantly makes the Mustang 10 Best. There's no other reason because Gotta-have factor is the only reason the Mustang beat the GTO in a head to head comparison in C&D. Someone needs to point out to them that just because a car is more "gotta-have" doesn't make it the better car. If the GTO is better (which they basically said it was) then it should be on the 10 Best list.
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No car should make a 10Best list based on something as subjective as a "gotta-have" factor.
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No car should make a 10Best list based on something as subjective as a "gotta-have" factor.

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exactly. if it did, where's the solstice?
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No car should make a 10Best list based on something as subjective as a "gotta-have" factor.

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Yet the Mustang and RX-8 are here...
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Gotta-have factor apparantly makes the Mustang 10 Best. There's no other reason because Gotta-have factor is the only reason the Mustang beat the GTO in a head to head comparison in C&D. Someone needs to point out to them that just because a car is more "gotta-have" doesn't make it the better car. If the GTO is better (which they basically said it was) then it should be on the 10 Best list.

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But the GTO is also more expensive and less stylistically appealing to the masses, is it not?
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But the GTO is also more expensive and less stylistically appealing to the masses, is it not?

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You get what you pay for in terms of equipment level and refinement, IMO.
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Wow, no Toyota products. Could the world be coming to an end?? :o

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since the prius wan't hod rod enough for them, :rolleyes: they extended that bias to all the other toyotas..... :rolleyes:
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You get what you pay for in terms of equipment level and refinement, IMO.

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I totally agree, and I'm not bashing on the GTO or anything, I love the GTO, but price and style (especially style) are major contributing factors when it comes to cars. If the GTO had mroe style, people may be able to justify its price more. Style means a lot...take my mom for example, now, she is partial to bugs ever since owning them as a kid and being in VW clubs. She knew back then they were pieces of junk and she knows today that they still aren't that great of cars, yet she loves the beetle convertible and was trying to justify the near 30 grand price tag to get one...why? based on styling alone of course...yea, sure, they may be cute, but they are way overpriced pieces of junk.

I can understand the argument of the GTO not being on the 10Best list, but obviously style plays a big role. While the GTO may be a superior car to the Mustang in most ways, it lacks in style and depending on the mustang, affordability as well. And taking into consideration every day people who dont know a whole lot about cars, people may look at the mustang, think its a great looking car and they won't see far past that. On the other hand, people will see the GTO and no matter how great the car may be, they'll see right through it because it doesn't have that style. It doesn't have that initial impact which woo's buyers and turns heads. It seems to be (in the case of these 2 cars anyways) like judging a book by it's cover.
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From my view, it boils down to whether you like to go fast or go fast and have everyone stare at you. If you like the attention, Mustang is the way to go. If you want more of a sleeper, the GTO is where its at. No doubt a sharp-colored Mustang GT 'vert turns more heads, but a GTO probably wouldn't get the cops on you quite as fast - after all, that was just another Grand Prix coupe shooting past, right? I do like the Mustang, though, my biggest gripe being those godawful headrests, especially how they look in the convertibles. Just diff' strokes.
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