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2010 Buick LaCrosse

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Thx for posting those. Looks like a very nice car, but I'd prefer Buick not to offer CX models. In fact, I'd offer only one loaded trim level, with very few options.

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I'd like to see Buick follow the Acura model too, but this is still GM we're talking about, they still need to supply Avis with rentals for blue-hairs in Reno.

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I'd like to see Buick follow the Acura model too, but this is still GM we're talking about, they still need to supply Avis with rentals for blue-hairs in Reno.

Well, and they have to overlap the Malibu now, since the G6 and Aura are on their way out...

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i have a sneaking suspicion that the taking of the impala badge off the impala and the g8 demise means the g8 becomes impala and the current impala gets renamed 'classic' and gets heavy fleet duty starting in about late 2010.

no facts, just a guess on my part.

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i have a sneaking suspicion that the taking of the impala badge off the impala and the g8 demise means the g8 becomes impala and the current impala gets renamed 'classic' and gets heavy fleet duty starting in about late 2010.

no facts, just a guess on my part.

Sending the current Impala to Avis&Co wouldn't be a bad idea, as long as it meant Buick would not sell CX-trim levels anymore.

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i have a sneaking suspicion that the taking of the impala badge off the impala and the g8 demise means the g8 becomes impala and the current impala gets renamed 'classic' and gets heavy fleet duty starting in about late 2010.

I don't think so, in fact I'd say that's next to impossible. The Impala gazelle came off, but so did the "LS" badge on LS models. It's aimed at cutting costs and saving money period. When/if a newer Impala comes out on EPII I would expect the gazelle to be back in all its glory.

Not sure I like this new Buick though. The more I look at it the less I like it. If I was to compare it to the CTS in style inside and out I'd say the CTS is a much more well executed design (and I really find it appealing). The LaCrosse has an attractive interior but the center stack puts me off of it somewhat, the exterior styling looks as if they're trying to be BMW. I'd still rather have a DTS or Lucerne or even a CTS4 over this car.

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Thanks for posting. I believe that this will be a marvelous car, and hopefully they advertise it and give it sensible options packaging. I also can't wait to see its cousin, the Saab 9-5.

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I don't think so, in fact I'd say that's next to impossible. The Impala gazelle came off, but so did the "LS" badge on LS models. It's aimed at cutting costs and saving money period. When/if a newer Impala comes out on EPII I would expect the gazelle to be back in all its glory.

Not sure I like this new Buick though. The more I look at it the less I like it. If I was to compare it to the CTS in style inside and out I'd say the CTS is a much more well executed design (and I really find it appealing). The LaCrosse has an attractive interior but the center stack puts me off of it somewhat, the exterior styling looks as if they're trying to be BMW. I'd still rather have a DTS or Lucerne or even a CTS4 over this car.

no i think the debadging is to take the impala identifier off the car so that in the time continuum there is further spacing of the current model from any impala badging so the next one can arrive sooner than thought possible.

http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/arti.../306089931/1197

Not too late for the G8? GM ponders rebranding.

Automotive News: June 8, 2009 - 12:01 am ET

Pontiac is toast at the end of the 2010 model year. But the Pontiac G8 sedan might survive with another GM badge, says Tom Stephens, General Motors' vice chairman of global product development.

"I know there's still discussions on it," says Stephens. "But Chevrolet already has several sedans. How many sedans do you need to cover the waterfront?"

The G8, engineered and assembled by GM subsidiary Holden in Australia, has been a bright spot for Pontiac. With little advertising support, the sporty, rear-drive sedan, which starts at $29,000 including freight, has sold well. Some versions have the same V-8 engine as the Chevrolet Corvette.

Some enthusiasts are lobbying GM to turn the G8 into a Chevrolet Impala SS. The current front-drive Impala SS is being phased out at the end of the 2009 model year.

The G8 also could morph into a performance sedan for Buick. Buick has not had a rear-drive performance car since the mid-1980s.

only glitches, i thought oshawa had the rights to the impala name.

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i thought oshawa had the rights to the impala name.
Maybe that limitation goes away with the bankruptcy process?
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only glitches, i thought oshawa had the rights to the impala name.

Oshwa builds a Zeta now don't they?

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they were supposed to build the new one too. partly why they had it in the contract that the impala name is only built in oshawa.

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I don't think so, in fact I'd say that's next to impossible. The Impala gazelle came off, but so did the "LS" badge on LS models. It's aimed at cutting costs and saving money period. When/if a newer Impala comes out on EPII I would expect the gazelle to be back in all its glory.

Not sure I like this new Buick though. The more I look at it the less I like it. If I was to compare it to the CTS in style inside and out I'd say the CTS is a much more well executed design (and I really find it appealing). The LaCrosse has an attractive interior but the center stack puts me off of it somewhat, the exterior styling looks as if they're trying to be BMW. I'd still rather have a DTS or Lucerne or even a CTS4 over this car.

I agree 100%. There is something just not right about the new LaCrosse. the sweepspear looks odd, the Lexus copy rear end and mislocated chrome strip at the bottom of the door, the bloated plain side look and the hidden from side view mini port holes are all a turn off to me. The 4000 lb curb weight is crazy, the 13.3 cu. ft. trunk is a joke, the CX model follows the current cars mistake of offering light tan cloth or light gray cloth seats with no other colors available, the 3.0 liter has less torque than the old 3800 and gets one less MPG and teh dash and center stack just look strange and outlandish. The DTS, Lucerne or CTS are far more appealing looking to my eyes also.

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I agree 100%. There is something just not right about the new LaCrosse. the sweepspear looks odd, the Lexus copy rear end and mislocated chrome strip at the bottom of the door, the bloated plain side look and the hidden from side view mini port holes are all a turn off to me. The 4000 lb curb weight is crazy, the 13.3 cu. ft. trunk is a joke, the CX model follows the current cars mistake of offering light tan cloth or light gray cloth seats with no other colors available, the 3.0 liter has less torque than the old 3800 and gets one less MPG and teh dash and center stack just look strange and outlandish. The DTS, Lucerne or CTS are far more appealing looking to my eyes also.

I agree on all points but FYI the new LaX has a 17-18 cu ft trunk.

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The only thing I don't like about the new LaCrosse is the fact that the fuel door is on the wrong side. Picked up my LaCrosse brochure, which is very classy BTW, and decided to make some comparisons in style and quality. Just took a stroll through the Lincoln site and seriously, Buick is simply blowing the doors off of them now. The LaCrosse is light years ahead of the MKS in styling, inside and out. Want bloated, take a look at the MKT. Sheesh, what were they thinking. It is a disproportionate nightmare of a CUV. The Enclave is without a doubt the better option. And if the 2012 Enclave clay floating around is any indication, it is only going to move further ahead.

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The only thing I don't like about the new LaCrosse is the fact that the fuel door is on the wrong side. Picked up my LaCrosse brochure, which is very classy BTW, and decided to make some comparisons in style and quality. Just took a stroll through the Lincoln site and seriously, Buick is simply blowing the doors off of them now. The LaCrosse is light years ahead of the MKS in styling, inside and out. Want bloated, take a look at the MKT. Sheesh, what were they thinking. It is a disproportionate nightmare of a CUV. The Enclave is without a doubt the better option. And if the 2012 Enclave clay floating around is any indication, it is only going to move further ahead.

What is wrong side?

If my fuel door was on the passenger side, i would get in and out at Costco gas hella quick.

Even still, i go thru that lane and just pull the hose over to the other side.

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What is wrong side?

If my fuel door was on the passenger side, i would get in and out at Costco gas hella quick.

Even still, i go thru that lane and just pull the hose over to the other side.

Looks like it's on the passenger side (right side). I've had cars with it on the right (a lot of Fords back to the late '70s have had it there) and on the left. On the left is slightly more convenient to pull up and fuel up. But either side works, and with gas stations with 8-10 or more pumps, it's easy enough to pull up on the correct side.

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Looks like it's on the passenger side (right side). I've had cars with it on the right (a lot of Fords back to the late '70s have had it there) and on the left. On the left is slightly more convenient to pull up and fuel up. But either side works, and with gas stations with 8-10 or more pumps, it's easy enough to pull up on the correct side.

Since we live in an era where we need 9 cupholders for 4 passengers, why not put a gas door on both sides of the car?

I miss the old license plate hidden rear gas filler... yeah, yeah, I understand the safety issue, but that's why I had 6 foot of trunk.

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I miss the old license plate hidden rear gas filler... yeah, yeah, I understand the safety issue, but that's why I had 6 foot of trunk.

Meh..those suck because you have to bend over so far to reach them, and easy to spill. :)

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On the left is slightly more convenient to pull up and fuel up.

Hey, I'm lazy. And I enjoy nothing more than a good laugh at watching people drive in for gas, realize they put the pump on the wrong side and have to reorient the car to pump gas. Guess I have just driven Japanese cars (Hondas) for so long that I could see myself being one of those who pulled in wrong. Do they have right side drive in China, if so, this must have been a cost saver. All the other Buicks my family has had were driver (left) side fillers, or the tag filler, which I must say I liked back in the day as well.

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Hey, I'm lazy. And I enjoy nothing more than a good laugh at watching people drive in for gas, realize they put the pump on the wrong side and have to reorient the car to pump gas.

I've pulled in the wrong way when I'm in a rental I'm unfamiliar with (and don't check the gauges for an arrow) or I drive my '87 Mustang (which is on the right, while my Jeep is on the left).

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Anyone see the 2.0 turbo is headed to this car. I wonder how it will be with the 6 Speed auto. I wonder if they will bring in a 6 speed man?

It should make for some smooth power.

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I checked on my GM info site and there is no mention of Fritz's 2.0 turbo yet but here is a some of the info GM has posted. The 3.6 is 280 Hp and the 3.0 is 255 HP

Buick LaCrosse

Highlights

All new available models include; CX 4GE69, CXL FWD 4GM69, CXL AWD 4GG69 and CXS 4GT69 models

(GAN) Quicksilver Metallic exterior color

(GAO) Gold Mist Metallic exterior color

(GAP) Midnight Blue Metallic exterior color

(GAQ) Red Jewel Tintcoat exterior color

(GAR) Carbon Black Metallic exterior color

(GAZ) Summit White exterior color

(GBN) White Diamond Tricoat exterior color

(GHA) Mocha Steel Metallic exterior color

(AFA) Cocoa/Light Cashmere cloth seats

(AFB) Dark Titanium/Light Titanium cloth seats

(AFC) Cocoa/Light Cashmere leather-appointed seats

(AFE) Dark Titanium/Light Titanium leather-appointed seats

(AFG) Ebony leather-appointed seats

(AFD) Cocoa/Light Cashmere perforated leather-appointed seats

(AFF) Dark Titanium/Light Titanium perforated leather-appointed seats

(AFH) Ebony perforated leather-appointed seats

(PYX) 17" high vent steel wheels with flush cover (standard on CX)

(Q04) 17" machined alloy wheels (available on CX)

(PW2) 18" machine-faced alloy, painted wheels (standard on CXL)

(Q52) 18" chrome-plated wheels (available on CXL, standard on CXS)

(Q70) 19" 9-spoke painted, machined alloy wheels (included and only available on CXS with (PCZ) Touring Package)

(PDD) Comfort and Convenience Package #1, includes (CJ2) dual-zone automatic climate control, (DD8) inside rearview auto-dimming mirror, (UPF) Bluetooth for phone, (APG) driver 4-way power lumbar, (BTV) remote vehicle starter system, (AG2) front passenger 6-way power seat adjuster and (UG1) Universal Home Remote (standard on CXL and CXS, available on CX)

(PCM) Comfort and Convenience Package #2, includes (UD7) Ultrasonic Rear Parking Assist, (A45) memory settings and (DLG) outside heated power-adjustable, manual-folding mirrors with integrated turn signal indicators, ground illumination and driver-side memory and auto-dimming feature (standard on CXS, available on CXL)

(PCK) Luxury Package, includes (NR5) leather and wood grain heated steering wheel, (KU1) driver ventilated seat, (KU3) front passenger ventilated seat, perforated leather-appointed seating, (DB3) power rear sunshade, (ATH) E-Z Key Passive Entry System and (BTM) keyless start (standard on CXS, available on CXL)

(PCI) Driver Confidence Package, includes (UFT) Side Blind Zone Alert, (TT2) Xenon, articulating High-intensity Discharge (HID) headlamps and (UV6) Head-Up Display (available late summer '09 on CXL and CXS)

(PCZ) Touring Package, includes (Q70) 19" (48.3 cm) 9-spoke painted, machined alloy wheels, (RP2) P245/40R19 all-season, blackwall tires, (GNE) Rear H-arm suspension, (F45) Chassis continuously variable real time damping and Sport Mode Selectivity (available on CXS)

(PDB) Entertainment Package, includes (UQA) harman/kardon 280-watt 9-speaker system, (USR) USB port and (KI6) 120V power outlet (standard on CXS, available on CX and CXL)

(AW7) Rear seat mounted thorax air bags (available on all models)

(UYE) AM/FM/XM audio system with single disc CD and MP3 player, auxiliary jack input, seek-and-scan, digital clock, auto-tone control, speed-compensated volume and TheftLock (standard on all models)

(UYS) Audio system with navigation, single CD/DVD player, 40GB Hard Drive Device, MP3 playback, HDD-based navigation and (UVC) rearview camera system (available on CXL and CXS)

(UWG) Rear seat dual-display DVD entertainment system, includes (UYZ) AM/FM/XM CD/DVD player stereo and rear seat dual-display DVD in the headrests (available on CXL and CXS)

(UDC) Single color and (UDD) Multi-color Enhanced driver instrument information (single color standard on CX and CXL, multi-color standard on CXS)

(TSP) Custom Lighting, interior front and rear reading, front and rear door and console ambient lighting, front foot well, puddle lights and instrument panel light pipe (standard on all models)

(VY7) Leather-wrapped shift knob (standard on all models)

(C3U) Oversized, power sunroof (available on CXL and CXS)

LED rear stop tail lamps (standard on all models)

(G96) Electronic limited slip differential (standard on CXL AWD)

(F46) All-wheel drive (standard on CXL AWD)

(LF1) 3.0L DOHC, V6 Variable Valve Timing, Spark Ignition Direct Injection engine (standard on CX and CXL)

(LLT) 3.6L DOHC, V6 Variable Valve Timing, Spark Ignition Direct Injection engine (standard on CXS)

(GNA) front MacPherson strut suspension (standard on all models)

(GNC) rear 4-link suspension (standard on CX and CXS)

(GNE) rear H-arm suspension (standard on CXL, available on CXS with (PCZ) Touring Package)

(MH2/MH4) 6-speed electronically controlled automatic transmissions with overdrive and Driver Shift Control, tap up/tap down ((MH2) standard on CX, CXL (FWD) and CXS, (MH4) standard on CXL (AWD))

Curb weight, lbs. (kg) 3948 to 4199

Cargo volume, cu. ft. (liters) 13.3 (376.7) to 12.8 (362.5)

Fuel capacity, approximate, gallon (liters) 18 (68) Seating capacity, max. (front/rear) 2/3 2/3 2/3 2/3

Engine, 3.0L DOHC, V6 VVT Spark Ignition Direct Injection (SIDI) (FWD - 255 hp [193.9 kW] @ 6900 rpm, 217 lb-ft of torque [293.0 N-m] @ 5100 rpm) (AWD - 252 hp [187.9 kW] @ 6900 rpm, 215 lb-ft of torque [290.3 N-m] @ 5100 rpm

Engine, 3.6L Variable Valve Timing V6 with SIDI (Spark Ignition Direct Injection), DOHC (280 hp [215.5 kW] @ 6300 rpm, 259 lb-ft of torque [349.7 N-m] @ 4800 rpm)

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