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This would require some fairly substantial engineering changes on the current car. I'm sure it could be done to the current one, but at what cost? There should be a next generation Continental on the new platform already in the works, my guess is that it shows up there. I'm starting to wonder if Ford isn't doing a big media fakeout on some of this doom and gloom news surrounding the car lines.

Ford made $8.4B in profit last year; Lincoln could sell 1000/mnth and FoMoCo would be just fine. Only American brands are held to this unyielding white hot spotlight on 'volume'. Put another way; guess how many cars Lincoln sold the first year of their iconic, oft-emulated, suicide-doored styling tour de'force (1961) : 25,164 units.

Doctors are useless when the patient is essentially terminal. Would be smart for Ford to build F series and Mustang...pretty much the only product they can keep interesting and relevant. ...and 1973 would have been a good time for them to have started facing relevancy issues.

What I would give to see a 75 Cutlass Supreme or Salon coupe in Persimmon metallic and in "cherry" condition .... I would dream about that at night Favorite color was the medium to dark metallic blue of 1998 and 1999. It was perfect on the Intrigue. I sometimes lament never having owned one.

'69 GTO, white with black Judge-esque stripes, been parked outside at repair garage a few miles from me for most of this past week. Brand new BMW sedan (3 or 5- hard to tell in profile), driver was easily 80 yrs old.

Lincoln was down 23% last month, to 6700 units/mnth. I still don't think that's bad. Mini sold 3000 units with only 1 less model (really; it's 6 variations of the same cheese sandwich). Ford's volume can easily cover Lincoln. The suicide doors is tremendously interesting- another major stepping stone to monetizing their heritage. Have to see what happens.

dfelt, Peugeot has been in the transportation business since 1830, and the car business since 1882. They don't need your permission to do a gotdamn thing.

Oldsmobile Intrigue in that popular bronze color. Beat, but still answering the call.

Really nice 75 Monte Carlo...brown. 64 Ford Galaxy 500 headed north on Interstate 71.

Who is to say that the CT5 is not being built on the same Platform already as the CT6. Common sense is to use one universal platform for the car line. They do it in China already.

63/64 are great track numbers- that's Wide Track Pontiac territory. WOuld like to see the width grow by 2 inches, tho 74 is in no way narrow. Escala would sit pretty at 77" wide, 215" long, 128" WB, 65/66 track.

I see both of U as correct.. but I also throw that same logic over at the 5 Series and 7 Series... They are even on the same platform.. as the CT6 and CT5 will most likely be soon. How much U wanna bet that the legroom between the CT5 and CT6 ends up similar as well.. with the exterior dimensions being the true differentiation? I can see the CT6 as a 6 Series type vehicle once 2020 hits.. and the intro of the Escala (CT8) which got the green-light CT3, ATS replacement with ATS-L dimensions.. CT5 current exterior dimensions of CTS but interior sized similar in the rear like the , CT6, and then CT8 in 2020 ATS no.. CTS U are smokin the same crack they are. The ironic part about the Chevy comment is that in truth.. many of Benz's interiors are pretty much on par with the mainstream brand, I'd say on the same level as the LaX and Enclave if U really want to shore it up. U are truly a fanboi if U can't see that. The new E-Class' interior is nothing great at all..

They should install suicide doors and then cancel the Continental the next year. Seems like a typical Ford product planning sort of thing to do. Maybe this can be the new Lincoln signature, and put suicide doors on every vehicle they make, then it will make their cars different than Fords.

I could see a small Jeep similar to the Fiat Panda Cross..it's 20+ inches shorter than the Renegade. So Jeep may be growing both ends of the range..with something small and something large (the long rumored Wagoneer/Grand Wagoneer)..covering all the bases.

They had the internet price, and then the price on the windshield which was higher. I got it for the internet price, which was pretty spot on for a CPO '14 Limited 4x4 V6 w/ 25k miles--based on comparisons w/ others listed in Az and So Cal.

DS would be interesting to see..

Went over to Dunkin Donuts this morning, and saw a couple out of the ordinary rides in the less-than-2-mile round trip--a very clean silver blue w/ dark blue top '83-84 ish Buick Electra Park Avenue sedan. Always liked the taillight treatment on those. A couple probably north of 75 were in it. And saw the red '04-06 GTO from a couple streets over out and about, first time I've seen it out since October.

'cut 10 inches off' - nonononoNO! Everyone wants Cadillac to 'stop trying to be a BMW'... then here it is: fuck matching exact dimensions. Cadillacs should be larger, this one is larger. Lock-stepping is why the German trio are so interchangeable. Cadillac should stand apart. The size is perfect for the segment. And Cadillac here is providing multiple options for someone considering a 5-series; a slightly smaller lighter CTS or a slightly larger CT6 (which is also a viable option to the 7 in many consumer's books).

Hadn't heard the term 'turnover' before in this context...when one salesman foists you off on another? My last car buying experience (last year w/ my Jeep) was very easy and smooth. I searched the Phoenix area online for CPO GCs for a week after i decided I wanted to buy, found a couple specific ones at my closest dealer that were the price/mileage/color combo/equipment mix I wanted, went in on a Friday afternoon, pointed out the one I wanted to test drive, looked it over, test drove it, then bought it. The 31st makes a year.

Other than a 9" length advantage of the CT6, they run the same dimensions, 5-series goes from 248-335HP (M5: 600), CT6 goes from 265-404HP (V-Sport: 550), start at same price tier, pushing performance & tech, luxury brands... my God, how could they be any LESS of competitors???

Cadillac ISN'T trying to outdo MB, and they absolutely HAVE targeted younger buyers (obviously the analyst crossed-up those 2 & how they are accomplished). Also unfortunately glossed over by the anaylist is the fact that MB & Cadillac are within a few years of average buyer age. Sounds like a poorly researched article. The other fallacy is that Cadillac (or any other brand) does not have to pull buyers away from other brands, only to capture those moving into the luxury segment from outside it. Since most luxury brands are above the ABA, that's where the younger buyers are coming from- its a lateral move from other luxury brands.

I agree 100% with ALL that you said... Except that quote which I quoted you on... I agree with the fact that the salesperson is doing his job. I also agree that the dealership is there solely to sell cars, and that they need to sell cars any which way they see fit... But...a dealership IS a store. A dealership IS open DURING BUSINESS hours to ACCEPT POTENTIAL customers. A POTENTIAL customer SHOULD be ABLE to VISIT a dealership DURING business hours...NOT before or AFTER business hours. Yes...the salesman NEEDS to sell cars to live and he needs to do his job the way his boss tells him to. We discussed that. As a potential customer though... I NEED TO VISIT A DEALERSHIP WITHOUT THE CONSTANT HARASSING IF I WANT TO BUY THE CAR TODAY. I NEED THE BREATHING ROOM TO SEE FOR MYSELF. A SIMPLE NO THANX SHOULD BE ENOUGH... If a dealership thinks that if a potential client leaves the dealership and that dealership equates THAT as a loss of a sale to another dealership...MAYBE THAT dealership should CHANGE the way they do business and leave the 1950s/1960s/1970s/1980s/1990s where they belong. IN THE PAST!!! Yes. Yes. Yes. I understand that there is a plethora of undetermined, uninformed morons out there that NEED this type of sales tactic even though they say they dont... But...the salespeople and the managers NEED to IDENTIFY the differences between the many types of buyers... The dealerships...should invest in TEACHING their salespeople HOW to sell to people in the 21st century. The DEALERSHIPS need to get together ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY and CHANGE the INDUSTRY around... INSTEAD OF FIGHTING with the PHOQUING customer...the PHOQUING INDUSTRY NEEDS TO CHANGE THIS! NO! Not the CUSTOMER...HE JUST WANTS TO BUY A PHOQUING CAR. ITS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PHOQUING INDUSTRY TO CHANGE... STOP BLAMING THE CUSTOMER AND PUTTING THE ONUS ON HIM!!!

OK : we wrapped this up today, thank God. '16 Sonic LTZ hatch, 1.6T, 6-speed auto, 35K miles. Got some minor dings outside (I don't care), interior is excellent. Pretty loaded up as a LTZ, drives better than I expected. It was $9700.

First, you need to understand the salesman was just doing his job. You don't dictate his job, his Manager does. His Mgr is the one with the authority to discount prices, and he is the one who sets the sales process in place. Nearly every dealership has rules in place for the salesman to check in with management before letting a customer leave. Sometimes they involve the Mgr coming over to talk to you, sometimes they don't. Either way, the salesman has to follow the rules, just like you do at your work. If he doesn't, the Mgr may prevent him from taking any more ups, not give him leads, etc. My only advice I can give is to tell them up front you are still in the early stages of your process, and that you don't plan on buying anything today. If the salesman needs to get the Mgr before you go, let him do his job. Politely reiterate what you told the salesman to the Mgr. At that point, you should not encounter any resistance in leaving. If you do, that dealer is not a place you want to do business. If you don't like my suggestion, or the notion that you may have to speak to someone with more seniority than the salesman, than I suggest not going during business hours.

Yeah...well... My car company is known for PROSPERITY, FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY!!! Dont forget Rock-N-Roll!!! YOUR car company is know for HOMICIDE, GENOCIDE and...and...SUICIDE...

Correct. If this was a CT6- Cadillac super cruise is better than Benz. Benz only put 4 wheel steering on the GT AMG, they did it 2 years behind Cadillac, and they didn't put it on the E class because they're cheap. 4 wheel steering is more important on a big sedan than a GT size car. Oh sure Benz "is coming out" with a 48 volts Eassist. You can go buy a 48+ volt Cadillac today.

I don't think the M5 and CT6 Vsport are really direct competitors. Yeah sure nuff both sedans, both sporty, both V8s... but they share not much else really.

@smk4565 a troll who can't even get basic facts right even when he has been reminded of them many many many multiple times. More than 12 volt power? Welcome to a 2008 Malibu Hybrid. 48 volts is not some magic number... The Prius uses more than 48 volts as does...the Volt. OMG wHY iS mERcedES so F@r bEhinD gm!!!n??!?

Where is Mercedes' super cruise? What's the matter? Are they too cheap? Where is their plug-in with 40 miles ev range? Still too cheap? Why do Mercede's power trains consistently lag Cadillac's in output for a given configuration? Why does it take a V8 from Benz to exceed a Turbo 6 from Cadillac? Why can't Benz build a Turbo 6 to beat Cadillac without throwing electric motors on it to help out? Too cheap? Why can't Benz build a suspension that has faster reaction time than Cadillac? I guess they're just too cheap Or you're just a troll.

You're just a troll. The German brands did a lot of hand wringing over adding AWD and a lot of purists bashed them for it. Where is BMW's or Mercedes' four wheel steering? I guess they're just too cheap to do it.

I've seen Vseries numbers lower than that at other publications and so have U. But cherry picking to fit your hate seems to be your natural trait. Either way.. AWD is the reason for the advantage that the M5 has in out accelerating the V. The CT6 addresses this.. I can attest that launching my 640hp beast on the fly is a chore unless launch control is perfectly engaged. Furthermore I will tell U that U are crazy if U think the CTS-V is gonna hit the market without AWD and a nice Milford beat down of the M5 and E63Amg before hitting the market. I wouldn't be surprised if the CT6 out accelerates both the new M5 and CTS-V with this system coupled with the 10speed

Just like everyone else, they're trying to come up with a sweet enough mask to cover the bitter aftertaste.

You missed a word

Wonder if this delay is due to their new Battery plant co-creation deal they signed in China. Will take the next 24 months to build the site and get production started?

Let me get this straight: you calling SMK a fat lady?

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