Intrepidation

Yeah but the the GTO suffered from price gouging, and the fact that it didn't look like many people thought a GTO should look like. The ST looks like what a Pontiac El Camino should look like, and as long as they don't gouge the prices it shouldn't meet the same fate.

So Camino, are you gonna debadge and it rebadge it as an EL Camino?

Suddenly it's 1991!

Considering that's only 2 I'd rather keep both and kill, say the TrailBlazer, or Envoy, or both, or Colorado/Canyon. Let those die so Zeta can live.

eh?

Katana FTW!

Fixed

Funny and yet so true. See, at BMW, they are doing things like producing cars that can run on Hydrogen and you can buy them NOW (even if it's the 7-series at the moment), and they'll have Hybrids too I think. At Mercedes they're making a 4-bangers that debuts in the S-Class that makes 250+ hp and gets 40+mpg Yet they are all RWD

This thread inspired me to fix my dishwasher

Ok....?

You know what the one of car sold by GME the gets really good reviews from the auto rags on that side of the pond is?

Yikes, from the side the proportions really do look out of wack. It seems that the wheelbase is too short and/or the front overhang is too big. But from other angles it looks fine. While I know a lot of people don't like the Avenger period, IMO it suffers from this too. Taken from the side it looks stubby and out of proportion, but from other angles it looks a lot better. It's ashame they half assed so much of the car. I certainly hope they do a damn good job with the new interior and work on the suspension and powertrains.

That poor truck really took a beating it sounds like, but it did it's job and protected you.

I wonder where our GE fridge we bought last year was made.

I think you just insulted the golf cart Camino.

You might get more credit in your postings if you didn't pull figures out of your ass in every post you make. Anyone who knows about the El Camino can easily make the connection to the ST. The shape is right, the power is right, the RWD is right. Not to mention that the Ute (and Commodore) have already reviewed rave reviews from the press, so it's easy to recommend it. It might be different if the cars were middle-of-the-road but they are not, they are excellent. Once again, you should really think before you type, and for once gets some real facts.

Ah but Mechs have come a long way since Gigantor.

Saw that, stupid kids.

If you want to show compassion for your "brothers and sisters" you shouldn't be advocating trying to kill Holden, or at the very least you should keep advocate to Zeta alive. Your logic is well, retarded at best, stupid at worst. People won't cross shop a tiny roadster and a large pick-up car. They neither compete with it other nor do they compete in the same segment, or price bracket, or anything for that matter. If you'd pull your head out of your ass and stop using immature stereotypes to attempt to get your misguided points across, and maybe think before you type, you might realize this. The ST can easily carve out a niche for itself. Someone who is single, married but with no kids, or looking for a second car that can carry weekend project materials or what have you and larger objects that wouldn't fit in a sedan, but doesn't want a sluggish truck that handles like, a truck, would be interested in it. Plus all of the El Camino enthusiasts that are dying to get their hands on one.

So the interior is average, at least the design is nice. Plu, it's what the car can do that really matters...not how much love-makin' can be done on the dash.

You're an ignoramus who half the time pulls "facts" and "statistics" out of his ass without actually researching. The Baja looked like what it was, a plastic cladded, pudgy outback. The ST is an alternative, kind of like how the Ridgeline is expect unlike the Ridgeline, it doesn't look like ass. I wouldn't down teh V6 ST would get better mileage than a Tacoma, and naturally it'll handle better than and BOD truck...of course the Tacoma's chassis tuning is rubbish anyway. You should really go back to the hole in the ground from whence you came, until you have something meaningful to contribute.

So have you seen the Av or pictures of it since the wreck? That sounded like it was really bad. Good thing you were in a safe vehicle that got 5-stars (and not4 like some other trucks )

Get both