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Tilt Steering AFAIK

I'm pretty sure it's a Chevrolet with the trunk popped

For my family... Buick Saturn Saab Hummer Opel Holden Vauxhall LaSalle Viking Oakland GEO

That's Really Subjective.... IMO DTS for the Win, I don't care for even the facelifted styling of the STS, inside or out (the interior on the STS looks kinda 'naked' in comparison). You truly have to drive one of these cars to appreciate them.

f@#k those people. Our 3.5L V6 Chevy Impala gets 40MPG Hwy and our 2.2L Cobalt gets 45MPG hwy and, news flash, They're NOT LOUSY.

Along with the new LWB Epsilon Impala and the Camaro Coupe/Convertible there is a SWB Epsilon that GM has allocated to Oshawa, that will eventually have a hybrid version too. This is where the Regal will be made. Besides the fact that they're calling it the Regal should be a dead giveaway, doesn't Oshawa have the rights to that name as part of some kooky union deal?

Holy dead thread, batman!

You're certainly not alone, our salesman lost 85% of his portfolio in the last six months and now works in the service dept.

I recall him saying that they were both L-Series Before...

The Cutlibu, Silhouette and the stagnation of the Ciera were the beginning of the end... Their early-mid nineties cars like the 98 and 88 were actually quite good.

The guy who sells us our cars once cut open the side of a 1999 Olds LSS as if it was a soup can, the car was serving as a dealer demo car when he scraped it against a jagged metal post in reverse at 10kph.

+1

It's certainly not a perception of junk...

Better than mine in a way (-15C)

It's kinda funny how things work out, I suppose it's hit and miss sometimes... an elderly friend has a 2003 Malibu and she loves it, wouldn't dare trade it for the new one; go figure.

Saturn's death was started by the ION. The L-Series had its problems but it wasn't as bad as the ION.

Well I rather like the Impala as it is but that new Taurus is going to beat it and the Taurus Stigma.... I hope.

The Impala is just fine... If CR has a problem they can see me about it.

Used GM: Malibu, DTS Ford: Taurus, Taurus X, Edge, Town Car

As a Cobalt owner I can tell you the Mini and the Cobalt aren't in the same class- that being said the Cobalt is a good honest car.

Well $h!, that sucks for your friend I really feel for him. Maybe he'll get lucky and it'll get "Lemon Lawed"- keep us posted.

QUOTE (capriceman @ Oct 25 2005, 07:42 PM) I talked to Bob Lutz in person ( I think he is famous to me) I almost got ran over by MI Govener Jhon Engler or what ever at Mackinack Island. How do you get run down on an Island that doesn't have cars on it? Horse and buggy moving to fast for ya?

It doesn't look like anything to me...

Here in Canada G8 V6s are going for 23900, Uplanders and Montana SV6s for 15995, Cobalts and Aveos for 14995.... It's going to get worse too.