Robert Hall

How about this one: http://www.themel-costore.com/servlet/Deta...DRYERS&no=2

The Grand Villes were awfully nice also...of the '75-76 GMs, I esp. like the Buick Electras...really like the front end w/ the rectangular lights, and the cool taillight design...like the '76 Caprice also. I generally prefer the '71-72s of the B and Cs, because the bumpers were smaller and better integrated, and the sides were more sculpted on some (Buick and Cadillac in particular lost some of their sculpting by '74-75).

Utah does have some great scenery, though..the national parks, the Salt Flats..and Moab and Park City are fun towns.. Nevada, on the other hand, is just a lot of ugly wasteland, IMHO.. (I've driven I-80 from Reno to SLC---empty and ugly). Thread answer: nausea

Manufacturing has been dying in the US for 30+ years.... of course, they still build cars in the UK, but most are plants owned by multinational companies.

Good point--these are GM-Shanghai products, not Geely or other 3rd rate products..nothing wrong that I see, as long as the quality and reliability are up to snuff. I've had plenty of consumer electronics made in China w/ no problems (like my 3+ yr old iPod).

That is a sweet land yacht... though my favorite years of the C-bodies like that are '71-72 when the bumpers were smaller. My favorites of the '70s GM land yachts are the '71-73 Impala sport coupe, '71-73 Buick Riviera, any '71-72 B- or C- coupe, 4dr ht, or convertible.

Instead of something nice like the Park Avenue or Regal, it will probably just be cheap generics...Chevy Spark or other.

Utah (the inverse of Nevada) Speaking of Nevada and um their 'special' businesses, a buddy of mine from Silicon Valley told me about a tiny startup that back in the '99 dot.com boom, when they had their IPO, their CEO took the whole staff to a Reno-area 'bunny ranch' to celebrate..

A manual has to be pretty rare in a '92.. that was the first year of the '88 style pickup platform for the Blazer, wasn't it? Those were neat wagons.

Interesting...on the Chevy website, they only mention the 2.4, 3.6, and Hybrid powertrains...I didn't even realize the 3.5 was available in this generation of Malbu, thought only the old one used it, and the Impala, etc.

More likely to meet the CAFE ratings, fewer V8 models will be built. And if gas goes back to $4 a gallon or more and stays there, demand will drop.

Yeah, I haven't been in Detroit proper since March '97, and the last time I was in the state (Ann Arbor) was Sept. 99. I need to go back to A2 and see some old friends and see how my old grad school haunts look today.

Maybe the city itself will eventually be fenced off, become something like from 'Escape from New York'. J/K, but I'm amazed that the city population is still over 900k.

The people I know in Colorado that call themselves Independents seem to also consider themselves Libertarians, which isn't quite the same as what I usually think of as conservatives.. don't know about AZ..

That drivetrain (and the seats) would be nice to upgrade an '86 El Camino SS (those were neat looking cars, had a Monte Carlo SS style nose).

Hmmm...hack off the bodywork behind the doors and weld/duct tape on the rear frame, bed and rear cab from a Silverado or Avalanche...

compost

I have no idea.. I've wondered if why the cost of CF hasn't come down is maybe it is very expensive to manufacture, even in volume? Or why don't we see more titanium or magnesium, like in mountain bikes? Too expensive to manufacture--even in volume-- relative to steel or aluminum?

freedom fries

Nothing wrong with that... the DTS does look awfully good in White Diamond. I'm more of a sports sedan fan, but I like the old school luxo boats, like the Town Car and the late Fleetwood Brougham..

Since I haven't sat in either, I can't really say they are competitive or not.

The CTS, G8 GT/GXP, and Camaro SS are the only GMs I'd seriously consider buying in the near future..they are all so appealing. The Solstice and Sky are neat, but too impractical for me.

It is a frustrating time, but I don't think I could ever vote Republican..I'd have to have a lobotomy first. I'm think had the other side won, things for the auto industry would be worse now...

Alas, in these troubled times, GM is probably only looking a week or two ahead. As far as diesels, I'd love to be able to get a 2011 Grand Cherokee TDI or a 2011 Challenger TDI, w/ 6speed manual...drool. Or a CTS or Camaro w/ diesels.

Alas, as long as gas prices stay cheap, I don't see the domestics seriously considering diesels for the NA market... I'd much rather have a diesel w/ a manual than a hybrid. And in bigger vehicles--esp. trucks and SUVs, diesels would be a natural..a great way to bring up the CAFE.