Robert Hall

Who knows...I could see the Insignia possibly as a G6, but wasn't it supposed to be an Aura? Hopefully, they will keep a G6 coupe...since it's the only Epsilon coupe GM has.

I think the current generation (W221) has improved a lot..the '00-06 (W220) generation had a LOT of problems, not as solid and vault like as the older W126 and W140 generations. Mercedes tried to cheapen their cars (I've read they started building to cost rather than no expenses spared engineering in the mid to late '90s, and it hurt them). A friend of mine's Dad had an '00 S class, lots of problems...replaced it with an '04 BMW 7-series--lots of problems (iDrive, etc). He drives an '07 STS now. Went to PetSmart last night for dog food, etc and parted nose-to-nose with a new (W221) S-class...my old W140 is so much taller in the front, the big square grille compared to sleek low nose of the new one..interesting how the design evolved over the generations.

Wow...dual quad 4drs, 4drs w/ 4 speeds. Cool.

Yeah, '59-60s are wild...over-the-top in fins and chrome. I can appreciate them for their audacity and detailing. I love the clean, restrained '61s..the Pontiacs, the Buicks, the Oldses and Cadillacs w/ their skegs, the Chevys...those goregous B-body bubbletop hardtops...the C-body 4dr hts w/ the wrap around rear windows. The '58s don't appeal to me at all, but the '61-72 GMs--esp. the bigger cars--B,C,E---are amongst my very favorite vintage cars.

There are so many '60s-70s GMs I'd love to have. (not to mention the Fords and Mopies). Top of my list would be a '71 Riviera, followed by a '71-72 Impala Sport Coupe. '66 Toronado. '67-68 Eldorado. '62-64 Grand Prix. '69-72 Grand Prix. '68-70 GTO. '66-67 Riviera. '63-65 Riviera. '66-66 Impala 2dr ht. '66-68 Caprice 2dr. 65-66 Coupe de Ville. '63-66 Wildcat. '62-65 Starfire. '71 Centurion convertible. etc etc etc. So many from that era that I love.

Saw a few interesting cars today. First was a bathtub Hudson--48-49 I think, black. What a radical design for it's time. Amazing to see a 60 yr old car out in traffic. Beautiful condition. Saw a primer black w/ red steel wheels '60 Caddy Coupe de Ville (or Series 62 ht) at a car wash. Massive. Saw a derelict '76-77 Cutlass Supreme coupe in a driveway, white w/ gray hood & rt ft fender, flat tires. Saw a blue w/ black top '74 Malibu 2dr parked behind a gas station, no plates. Lastly, a couple of '80s B-bodies--an '80 or so Caprice coupe, with a later composite headlight ('87-90) front end. It was a red-orange color I remember from '80. The other was an '86 Caprice Classic 4dr, very clean, two tone gray.

I'm partial to the '69 since I own one, like the 4 headlight front better than the '70 front. But the '70s are great--I'd love to have a '70 Mach 1. Never cared for the '71-73 Mustangs, in fastback form they looked huge. I like the '67-68 Mustangs also. I like the Camaros and Firebirds from '67-73 also, and '74-75 Firebirds..Pontiac handled the larger bumpers better than Chevy did, IMHO. About the only year of the Firebird I didn't really like was the '69, preferred the '67-68 grille I suppose.

I still watch NHL, following the Avalanche...I try and catch an NFL game occasionally, esp. the Broncos and Steelers. I don't really enjoy baseball on tv, but I enjoy going to games (Rockies or Diamondbacks). Went to a lot of Rockies games '02-07.

I did artificial trees back when I did decorate for xmas. Since I'm always away from home for the holiday now, I never decorate anymore.

I have to find the pic...somewhere I have one of my Mom (5'0", petite blond) with her massive '58 Mercury Monterey 4dr, back in '58. And one of her w/ me circa 1973 w/ the '69 Mustang.

IIRC, the Chevy color you are thinking of is Evening Orchid. Revell used that color on the box art for their '65 Impala kit back in the '90s.

Looks coldly beautiful. One thing I do like about the desert here, the sunsets are spectacular (no doubt partly due to the all the smog in the valley).

I love the '67-68s...grew up around 3 of 'em. My Mom has a '67 (289), '68 (302) and a '68 XR-7 (390) that she and my Dad bought back in the '60s-70s. 2 were restored back in the '80s, but the '68 302 (3spd manual, manual brakes, manual steering!) is all original w/ 65k miles.

A RWD sedan that competes w/ the Genesis could do well for Buick. With FWD sedans, they can target the MKZ and MKS...

I'd compare the C, IS, 3-series, CTS, and G35/37, but I'd probably go with the CTS or the 3 w/ a manual... those are my favorites. I love the midsize and larger Mercs, but the small ones don't really appeal to me.

Some lease, some buy. I know people that bought 3 series and later bought 5s. And the 3 is an excellent car any way you look at it.

I wouldn't say they are diluting..the sub-40k entry level models are how they acquire their first customers, who then often move up to the more pricey models over time as their budget allows...

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I was at Pearl Harbor the day after the 65th anniversary 2 years ago.. I saw a dozen or so veterans that were survivors of the day there, and a few former Japanese soldiers..a rather solemn event. Seeing the oil bubbling through the water from Arizona is sobering. Quite an interesting juxtaposition to the parking lot at the visitor's center full of Japanese cars..

The '61 Continental would get my vote...very clean, understated for it's time. It was a move away from the finny, over-trimmed '50s luxury cars. For GM of that era, I love the '63-65 Riviera and the early GPs and Starfires.

Yes...the black & gold. Thread answer--also F1: Tyrell (remember the P34 6-wheeled race car)?

Texas Flood- Stevie Ray Vaughan

They must be very scarce...I can't recall the last time I saw one, or the Fox Granada..

Those are pretty scarce... the Mercury version was the Cougar. Both were built only in'81-82, replaced by the similiar Fox-bodied LTD/Marquis in '83. The Cougar was available as a 2dr and 4dr (and a wagon in '82), and different from the also Fox-based Cougar XR-7, which was similar to the Thunderbird of the same years. Ford got a lot of use out of the Fox platform..

The World is Turned Upside Down--Billy Bragg and Stuff is Messed Up- Offspring. Two songs that are spot on thematically for these troubled times