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    The Reasons Buick Passed On the Avista


    • There is more to the decision of the Avista not going into production

    As we reported last month, Buick decided not to send the Avista into production. While the reason given at the time was due to not "enough enthusiasm for the concept," we had a sneaking suspicion there was more to that decision.

     

    Sure enough, Automotive News chatted with Buick global brand chief Duncan Aldred who explained the Avista wasn't "a massive opportunity in China." There is also the matter of priorities of which projects should go ahead or not.

     

    "Emotionally, you'd love to build it. I would buy one with my own money and put it in the garage," said Aldred.

     

    "The trouble is, I'm never looking at only one project. I'm always looking at several. I've got to weigh the pros and cons of each. There are some strong contenders in that consideration."

     

    Aldred also confirmed the rumor that the idea of Buick designers planning a four-door version of the Avista. This was first reported by Motor Trend in February

     

    "We looked at that. We've even visualized it. It would look wonderful as a four-door as well," said Aldred.

     

    Source: Automotive News (Subscription Required)

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    Totally understandable.

     

    Lovely auto?HELL YES 

     

    Sell in quantities that could make serious profits? Nope

     

    The days of 2 door coupes are coming to a close as people want 4 doors and the ability to haul family and friends.

     

    Once Buick makes massive profits and is even more stable then they can consider doing low volume break even auto's like what this would probably be.

     

    LOVE the look in that garnet red metallic. :D

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    It is sad but true that companies can not easily sell coupes. You can call GM what ever you like but they are in business to make money and coupes outside the Camaro are a hard sell. 

    When Duncan is presented with a case where he could sell 50,000  2 door Avista models or he could sell 150,000 Coupe styled 4 door versions globally it is a no brainier for someone with his ass on the line. 

    You can call it gutless but it will be profitable and do much better than a coupe. Just look at how many CTS coupes sold and how many had to be discounted that were not V trim. You call it gutless but most people in the real world call it logical. 

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    Agreed with all, and you pretty much knew they wouldn't build it when they showed it.  They make these coupes and convertibles to build excitement for the brand, but then when you never make on, it is a bit of a buzzkill.  I think Cadillac needs a concept looking car more than Buick though.

     

    Avista won't see production because it isn't a crossover.  That was pretty clear from the start.

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    I didn't particularly like the Avista.

     

    However, I am very satisfied with the Buick Lacrosse.

     

    Judging by how the Cascada will not be updated for quite a while, I think the Buick Avista concept was a decent design study.

     

    But they never made a promise or made it a point that it's the next meta. So they're off the hook.
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    exactly that

    it wasn't a priority for China

    Buick is being held together by China 

    If Buick made some nice LONG and WIDE coupes and sedans with V8 and rear wheel drive people would line up in droves and who cares about what China likes or doesn't like

    CAFE regulations? throw in some hybrid options and plug in hybrid options to sooth the balance

    in the mix, add a normally aspirated small block V8 such as a 6.0L or a 6.2L!

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    Well it was not all that long ago people understood the show cars were just that show cars. Few complained that 98% of what was shown at Motorama was never made. Sure bits and parts of many cars did make production in other forms but people played with more reality that these cars were not producible as shown. Today most people are not that smart.

    Second coupes are a hard sell globally anymore.

    Third China loves large and sporty sedans more than even SUV/CUV models so if it were to be built a 4 door version would fit the their market well. It would also lend a good hand for lower volume models here and down under too.

    May want to forget the big V8 engines as we will see more turbo engine along with Hybrid. China needs a smaller engine for taxes as do many other markets anymore.

    The reason this car would have not made production is very clear from the start because it was a coupe. It had no B pillar, it had no ground clearance. The brakes are larger than most tire and wheel packages, the interior was printed, Finally it was made clear it was a show car done buy the design staff not the engineering department. It had little else to do with anything else.

    As noted they are looking officially at a sedan version and that would fit globally and all the brands that are sharing. It also would be a high end car so making money would not be an issue at lower volumes.

    Is the sedan a lock no but it has a better chance.

    God Harley Earl would throw things at some of you because you just don't get what a show car really is. Some of you would complain that the X and Y Jobs of his were never put into production back in the old days.

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    This should surprise no one. The Avista, as sexy as it is should in no way be a production vehicle until Buick and GMC shore up the rest of their line-ups in away that they go directly against their intended competition. Because they are in teh same sales channel.. their budgets are intertwined. The GMC brands needs to get behind the new Acadia and make sure that it is ready to go up against the GC.. while they are at it.. they need a Wrangler competitor.. Buick needs a hatch to compliment the Verano as the Cruze has with its hatch. 

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    The more I think about this and look at the two colored pictures, not sure why but I really like the more masculine Blue version over the Garnet Red.

     

    I think this would sell as a weekend cruiser if they made it with a more powerful VOLT or pure EV powertrain.

     

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    I can see this selling and competing well against Tesla as an EV.

     

    Imagine this as liquid cooled electric motor, 420HP, 560 LB-FT torque motivating this along.

     

    This AMR Racing motor would be perfect to motivate this along and weigthing only a fraction of a traditional petrol engine.

     

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    Agreed with all, and you pretty much knew they wouldn't build it when they showed it.  They make these coupes and convertibles to build excitement for the brand, but then when you never make on, it is a bit of a buzzkill.  I think Cadillac needs a concept looking car more than Buick though.

     

    Avista won't see production because it isn't a crossover.  That was pretty clear from the start.

    Yeah, it sucks when companies like GM and Benz do that.

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    The more I think about this and look at the two colored pictures, not sure why but I really like the more masculine Blue version over the Garnet Red.

     

    I think this would sell as a weekend cruiser if they made it with a more powerful VOLT or pure EV powertrain.

     

    attachicon.gifBuick-Avista-1.jpg

    attachicon.gifBuick-Avista-2.jpg

     

    I can see this selling and competing well against Tesla as an EV.

     

    Imagine this as liquid cooled electric motor, 420HP, 560 LB-FT torque motivating this along.

     

    This AMR Racing motor would be perfect to motivate this along and weigthing only a fraction of a traditional petrol engine.

     

    attachicon.gifam-racing-amr-dual-stack-250-90-ac-motor-liquid-cooled-permanent-magnet-remy-1.jpg

     

    But it will never sound as good as a LS engine. 

    Electric and even the Turbo 4 engines as good as they are will never live  up to the sound of a good old V8. Just watch the video of he Venom setting the convertible speed record as it passes by. No Tesla would ever sound that good. 

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    they could do this if they canceled the ATS coupe.  The ATS coupe is the 'second ever G6' in terms of looks.....ATS coupe won't sell....but then again neither would this, but the Avista is better looking than the ATS coupe.

     

    both tread on the Camaros property.

     

    Not hardly any market for coupes.  Can't make this a sedan either.....we already have a new Regal and Verano coming.

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    The more I think about this and look at the two colored pictures, not sure why but I really like the more masculine Blue version over the Garnet Red.

     

    I think this would sell as a weekend cruiser if they made it with a more powerful VOLT or pure EV powertrain.

     

    attachicon.gifBuick-Avista-1.jpg

    attachicon.gifBuick-Avista-2.jpg

     

    I can see this selling and competing well against Tesla as an EV.

     

    Imagine this as liquid cooled electric motor, 420HP, 560 LB-FT torque motivating this along.

     

    This AMR Racing motor would be perfect to motivate this along and weigthing only a fraction of a traditional petrol engine.

     

    attachicon.gifam-racing-amr-dual-stack-250-90-ac-motor-liquid-cooled-permanent-magnet-remy-1.jpg

     

    But it will never sound as good as a LS engine. 

    Electric and even the Turbo 4 engines as good as they are will never live  up to the sound of a good old V8. Just watch the video of he Venom setting the convertible speed record as it passes by. No Tesla would ever sound that good. 

     

    Hell....I just saw Smokey and the Bandit for the umpteenth and even a horsepower choking crappy 1970s catalytic converter V8 sounds better than all of those engines mentioned, including the modern Chevy LS engine. (but the LS engine DOES sound goooooood) In some scenes, where the Trans Am is idling, you could hear her V8 engine gurgle....what a sound....and no...that is not Industrial Light and Sound Star Wars sound effects, it really was the Trans Am's 400 cubic inch V8 making those wonderful sounds!

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    Oh wait....

    I was  supposed to defend electric motors and agree with Mr DFELT  that a more powerful Bolt powertrain in the Avista coupe or sedan would be the bomb....

     

    OH well....V8s RULE!!!!

     

    Id go as far and say screw the Chevy LS motor in the Avista.

    Bring back that Pontiac 400 motor, add direct injection to it somehow and shoehorn it in the Avista.

    Shyte, shoehorn that in a Camaro, add an Endura nose to it and call it a Trans Am!

     

    THAT is the ONLY way Ill like the Camaro!

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    The more I think about this and look at the two colored pictures, not sure why but I really like the more masculine Blue version over the Garnet Red.

     

    I think this would sell as a weekend cruiser if they made it with a more powerful VOLT or pure EV powertrain.

     

    attachicon.gifBuick-Avista-1.jpg

    attachicon.gifBuick-Avista-2.jpg

     

    I can see this selling and competing well against Tesla as an EV.

     

    Imagine this as liquid cooled electric motor, 420HP, 560 LB-FT torque motivating this along.

     

    This AMR Racing motor would be perfect to motivate this along and weigthing only a fraction of a traditional petrol engine.

     

    attachicon.gifam-racing-amr-dual-stack-250-90-ac-motor-liquid-cooled-permanent-magnet-remy-1.jpg

     

    But it will never sound as good as a LS engine. 

    Electric and even the Turbo 4 engines as good as they are will never live  up to the sound of a good old V8. Just watch the video of he Venom setting the convertible speed record as it passes by. No Tesla would ever sound that good. 

     

    Not so sure about that, but this Worlds Fastest Electric Corvette has that lovely Jet sound as it sets a new world record.

     

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    The more I think about this and look at the two colored pictures, not sure why but I really like the more masculine Blue version over the Garnet Red.

     

    I think this would sell as a weekend cruiser if they made it with a more powerful VOLT or pure EV powertrain.

     

    attachicon.gifBuick-Avista-1.jpg

    attachicon.gifBuick-Avista-2.jpg

     

    I can see this selling and competing well against Tesla as an EV.

     

    Imagine this as liquid cooled electric motor, 420HP, 560 LB-FT torque motivating this along.

     

    This AMR Racing motor would be perfect to motivate this along and weigthing only a fraction of a traditional petrol engine.

     

    attachicon.gifam-racing-amr-dual-stack-250-90-ac-motor-liquid-cooled-permanent-magnet-remy-1.jpg

     

    But it will never sound as good as a LS engine. 

    Electric and even the Turbo 4 engines as good as they are will never live  up to the sound of a good old V8. Just watch the video of he Venom setting the convertible speed record as it passes by. No Tesla would ever sound that good. 

     

    Not so sure about that, but this Worlds Fastest Electric Corvette has that lovely Jet sound as it sets a new world record.

     

     

    Sorry electric drills and my Dyson V6 vac are just are not sexy sounding either. 

     

    Go to 2:57 and just feel it. 

     

    http://gmauthority.com/blog/2016/04/hennessey-venom-gt-spyder-sets-record-for-fastest-convertible-ever-at-256-6-mph-video/

     

    Hmmm 186? So they modified this car to go slower than stock?

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    The more I think about this and look at the two colored pictures, not sure why but I really like the more masculine Blue version over the Garnet Red.

     

    I think this would sell as a weekend cruiser if they made it with a more powerful VOLT or pure EV powertrain.

     

    attachicon.gifBuick-Avista-1.jpg

    attachicon.gifBuick-Avista-2.jpg

     

    I can see this selling and competing well against Tesla as an EV.

     

    Imagine this as liquid cooled electric motor, 420HP, 560 LB-FT torque motivating this along.

     

    This AMR Racing motor would be perfect to motivate this along and weigthing only a fraction of a traditional petrol engine.

     

    attachicon.gifam-racing-amr-dual-stack-250-90-ac-motor-liquid-cooled-permanent-magnet-remy-1.jpg

     

    But it will never sound as good as a LS engine. 

    Electric and even the Turbo 4 engines as good as they are will never live  up to the sound of a good old V8. Just watch the video of he Venom setting the convertible speed record as it passes by. No Tesla would ever sound that good. 

     

    Not so sure about that, but this Worlds Fastest Electric Corvette has that lovely Jet sound as it sets a new world record.

     

     

    Sorry electric drills and my Dyson V6 vac are just are not sexy sounding either. 

     

    Go to 2:57 and just feel it. 

     

    http://gmauthority.com/blog/2016/04/hennessey-venom-gt-spyder-sets-record-for-fastest-convertible-ever-at-256-6-mph-video/

     

    Hmmm 186? So they modified this car to go slower than stock?

     

    Ive posted this before....

     

    Drills, absolutely have a great sound to them...

    Especially if you are the handyman type.

     

    Very masculine.

     

    Car garage smell with oil and gasoline mixed in  with rubber tire smell and pneumatic tools with V8 engine sounds in the background are akin to hardware store smell with lumber smells mixed in with paint smells and glues with electric tool sounds such as electric saws and drills....

     

    But that is just me, I guess....

    A relic of the past that enjoys being a smelly, hairy, sweaty macho male...

    No, I aint metro sexual...nor am I a slob..

    But...Im well groomed, very well groomed when the occasion calls for it but I still cling on to the old neanderthal stereotypes that require males to be males...

     

    (I aint accusing you of anything....Im just trying to be entertaining...kinda like Tim the Tool-man Taylor for this post)

     

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    :roflmao:

     

    No offense taken guys, I consider myself a manly man and love my V8 Powered AWD Trailblazer SS.

     

    With that said and those that know me know I have all SUVs with V8's. Just the future is cool and I do see us eventually going to EVs. They are cool and in time with tuning and engineers pushing the limits we will see EVs surpass the petrol motor I believe.

     

    Here is my baby all cleaned up for Spring!

     

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    they could do this if they canceled the ATS coupe.  The ATS coupe is the 'second ever G6' in terms of looks.....ATS coupe won't sell....but then again neither would this, but the Avista is better looking than the ATS coupe.

     

    both tread on the Camaros property.

     

    Not hardly any market for coupes.  Can't make this a sedan either.....we already have a new Regal and Verano coming.

     

    It could be a larger premium rwd awd sedan with coupe like styling., 

     

    Lets face it at a higher price and RWD it would appeal to a different segment and could be sold in lower volumes. This is no different than the Impala going to an Alpha and the Malibu covering the volume in the mid size FWD.  The Lacrosse is the major problem but even there two different segments. Lose the FWD impala and keep the Lacrosse and it would gain sales there. 

     

    Also make the Alvita sedan a Opel, Vauxhaull and Holden using the same platform as the Impala and TT V6.

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    The more I think about this and look at the two colored pictures, not sure why but I really like the more masculine Blue version over the Garnet Red.

     

    I think this would sell as a weekend cruiser if they made it with a more powerful VOLT or pure EV powertrain.

     

    attachicon.gifBuick-Avista-1.jpg

    attachicon.gifBuick-Avista-2.jpg

     

    I can see this selling and competing well against Tesla as an EV.

     

    Imagine this as liquid cooled electric motor, 420HP, 560 LB-FT torque motivating this along.

     

    This AMR Racing motor would be perfect to motivate this along and weigthing only a fraction of a traditional petrol engine.

     

    attachicon.gifam-racing-amr-dual-stack-250-90-ac-motor-liquid-cooled-permanent-magnet-remy-1.jpg

     

    But it will never sound as good as a LS engine. 

    Electric and even the Turbo 4 engines as good as they are will never live  up to the sound of a good old V8. Just watch the video of he Venom setting the convertible speed record as it passes by. No Tesla would ever sound that good. 

     

    Hell....I just saw Smokey and the Bandit for the umpteenth and even a horsepower choking crappy 1970s catalytic converter V8 sounds better than all of those engines mentioned, including the modern Chevy LS engine. (but the LS engine DOES sound goooooood) In some scenes, where the Trans Am is idling, you could hear her V8 engine gurgle....what a sound....and no...that is not Industrial Light and Sound Star Wars sound effects, it really was the Trans Am's 400 cubic inch V8 making those wonderful sounds!

     

    Sorry to burst your bubble but generally in many scenes the sound were dubbed and in many others the engine in the car was not as you would call a Catalytic choked 70's engine. 

    You may want to note too that the close up car had a auto but in many shots you can see them shifting gears with a standard. 

     

    I am a disciple of the movie and know well many of the things they did. Hal spoke at many Pontiac meets telling things about the cars from the movie. 

    Might note the last shot of the car coming down the hill at the race to deliver the beer. That was the last car they had left and the engine was blown. They coasted down the hill to get into the shot. 

    I even keep a copy of the movie on my Phone you sumbitch! 

     

    Sorry I had to use that some where. At least I did not use Moose Prick. LOL! 

     

    At one point they installed an engine from  NASCAR. Hal had some friends there and ended up owning a team there after this movie. I think the car that made the bridge jump has a NASCAR Chevy engine in it at the time. 

    :roflmao:

     

    No offense taken guys, I consider myself a manly man and love my V8 Powered AWD Trailblazer SS.

     

    With that said and those that know me know I have all SUVs with V8's. Just the future is cool and I do see us eventually going to EVs. They are cool and in time with tuning and engineers pushing the limits we will see EVs surpass the petrol motor I believe.

     

    Here is my baby all cleaned up for Spring!

     

    attachicon.gif20160402_141728.jpg

     

    Well you can hold onto you man card for now.....>>But we are watching you!!!! LOL! 

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    I for one am disappointed with the news that the Buick Avista is not being seriously considered for production. It is s beautiful design and really drew a lot of attention to the Buick display at the NYIAS. Additionally, it breathes new life into Buick. It shows that Buick isn't your father's (or grandfather's) car anymore. The new 2017 LaCrosse and Encore are great looking Buicks, the Envision has potential, and we're waiting to see the next generation Verano, Enclave, and Regal. I think a halo coupe like the Avista would add a vehicle in that white space we hear so much about. The Cascada is a nice car, but not everyone will want a convertible and I'd rather have an Avista Coupe instead.

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      “Stretching the Buick brand’s international appeal and potential has been a major focus of exploration in our design studios,” said Helen Emsley, executive director of Buick Global Design. “Concept cars stretch the boundaries of what is possible and every new Buick is benefitting from this vision work. As the Avenir concept expressed the prestige vision for the portfolio, the addition of an Avenir sub-brand illustrates an important piece of future direction.”
      Additional Avenir details and product specifics will be announced later.
    • By William Maley
      The diesel emission scandal has left Volkswagen battered and bruised. In an effort to try and salvage their image and business, the company is going all in on electric vehicles. Before the start of the Paris Motor Show, Volkswagen revealed the I.D. concept. Volkswagen says this concept when it goes into production in 2020 will be as groundbreaking as the Beetle.
      We don't know much about the I.D. except for some details,
      About the size of a Golf Uses Volkswagen's new Modular Electric Drive Kit (MEB) Electric motor produces 125kW Total range between 400 to 600 Kilometers (about 249 to 373 Miles) Not sure if this means the vehicle will feature different battery options Fully autonomous mode for the model coming in 2025 We'll have more details when the I.D. makes its auto show debut tomorrow. 
      Source: Volkswagen
      Press Release is on Page 2


      I.D. – THE WORLD PREMIERE
      Sep 28, 2016
      Paris Motor Show - Mondial de l'Automobile 2016
      World premiere of the I.D. starts the countdown to a new era for Volkswagen Volkswagen plans for the visionary I.D. to hit the road in 2020 An ambassador: the I.D. is the first Volkswagen of a new fleet of electric cars It runs and runs: the I.D. has a range of 400 to 600 kilometres Ready for the future: the I.D. concept car demonstrates a fully automated mode for the year 2025 Key facts – the I.D. in keywords
      1. I.D. is the first Volkswagen in a completely new fleet of highly innovative electric vehicles.
      2. I.D. is immediately recognisable as a zero-emission vehicle thanks to a newly developed design DNA for electric cars.
      3. I.D. is driven by an electric motor with an output of 125 kW and has a range of between 400 and 600 kilometres on a single battery charge.
      4. I.D. has an interior that offers an entirely new spatial experience with the Open Space.
      5. I.D. will be launched as a compact electric car in 2020 parallel to the Golf.
      6. As a concept car, I.D. gives us a first tangible glimpse of fully automated driving – this mode will be offered from 2025 onwards.
      7. I.D. retracts its multifunction steering wheel into the dashpad when in fully automated mode ("I.D. Pilot").
      8. I.D. can receive parcels using a new delivery service, if its owner isn't at home.
      9. I.D. is the first compact Volkswagen based on the Modular Electric Drive Kit (MEB).
      10. Volkswagen has set itself the goal of selling a million electric cars a year by 2025.

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    • By William Maley
      The diesel emission scandal has left Volkswagen battered and bruised. In an effort to try and salvage their image and business, the company is going all in on electric vehicles. Before the start of the Paris Motor Show, Volkswagen revealed the I.D. concept. Volkswagen says this concept when it goes into production in 2020 will be as groundbreaking as the Beetle.
      We don't know much about the I.D. except for some details,
      About the size of a Golf Uses Volkswagen's new Modular Electric Drive Kit (MEB) Electric motor produces 125kW Total range between 400 to 600 Kilometers (about 249 to 373 Miles) Not sure if this means the vehicle will feature different battery options Fully autonomous mode for the model coming in 2025 We'll have more details when the I.D. makes its auto show debut tomorrow. 
      Source: Volkswagen
      Press Release is on Page 2


      I.D. – THE WORLD PREMIERE
      Sep 28, 2016
      Paris Motor Show - Mondial de l'Automobile 2016
      World premiere of the I.D. starts the countdown to a new era for Volkswagen Volkswagen plans for the visionary I.D. to hit the road in 2020 An ambassador: the I.D. is the first Volkswagen of a new fleet of electric cars It runs and runs: the I.D. has a range of 400 to 600 kilometres Ready for the future: the I.D. concept car demonstrates a fully automated mode for the year 2025 Key facts – the I.D. in keywords
      1. I.D. is the first Volkswagen in a completely new fleet of highly innovative electric vehicles.
      2. I.D. is immediately recognisable as a zero-emission vehicle thanks to a newly developed design DNA for electric cars.
      3. I.D. is driven by an electric motor with an output of 125 kW and has a range of between 400 and 600 kilometres on a single battery charge.
      4. I.D. has an interior that offers an entirely new spatial experience with the Open Space.
      5. I.D. will be launched as a compact electric car in 2020 parallel to the Golf.
      6. As a concept car, I.D. gives us a first tangible glimpse of fully automated driving – this mode will be offered from 2025 onwards.
      7. I.D. retracts its multifunction steering wheel into the dashpad when in fully automated mode ("I.D. Pilot").
      8. I.D. can receive parcels using a new delivery service, if its owner isn't at home.
      9. I.D. is the first compact Volkswagen based on the Modular Electric Drive Kit (MEB).
      10. Volkswagen has set itself the goal of selling a million electric cars a year by 2025.
    • By William Maley
      Summertime means something different for everyone. For some, it’s time to enjoy the sunshine and warm weather. For others, it is the time to take that trip you have been thinking about for awhile. If you’re an automotive writer like myself, summertime means convertible season. The feeling of having the roof down and enjoying the expanded view of the sky is something quite special. This summer saw two of GM’s latest convertibles roll into the Cheers & Gears’ Detroit garage, the new Buick Cascada and recently redesigned Chevrolet Camaro SS convertible. How did these two droptops fare in the summer heat?
      Exterior:
      There is no denying the Opel/Vauxhall roots of the Buick Cascada as it is just basically the Cascada sold in Europe with Buick basing. But that isn’t a bad thing since the Cascada is handsome for the most part. The front features a new grille design and headlights with LED accents. The side profile reveals short overhangs for the front and rear. These overhangs make the side look somewhat oddly proportioned. A set 20-inch wheels come standard. Around back, a long chrome bar runs along the trunk lid into the taillights. 
      On the opposite end is the Chevrolet Camaro. If you’re looking for something quiet and doesn’t bring attention, then maybe you should pass on it. Redesigned last year, Chevrolet retained the Camaro’s basic profile with its sharp lines and rounded corners. But major work was done on the front and rear ends. The front features a narrow top grille and slim headlights. A massive grille sits underneath between a set of deep cuts into the front bumper. The back has been cleaned up with a new trunk lid design, rectangular headlights, and quad-exhaust tips. 
      One item both the Cascada and Camaro share is a fabric top. Putting the top down or up takes under 20 seconds for both vehicles. With the tops down, both vehicles look quite good. But put the tops up and the Cascada is the better looking of the two. I can’t put my finger as to why, but I think it deals with how the Cascada has a little bit more glass than the Camaro. 
      Interior:
      Unfortunately, both the Cascada and Camaro fall on their face when it comes to the interior for different reasons.
      In the case of the Cascada, it features the dash from the outgoing Verano and Encore. This reveals that the Cascada is older despite what Buick may have you think. For example, the center stack is laden with buttons and it will take you a few moments to find the specific one you’re looking for. Not helping is the Cascada using GM’s last-generation infotainment system. While the system is easy to use, the interface is looking very dated. It would have been nice if Buick could have slipped in the dash from the updated Encore into the Cascade, but that would have likely introduced more problems than solutions.
      On the upside, the Cascada’s interior is well-built and features decent quality materials. A fair amount of dash and door panels feature some soft touch material. The front seats are comfortable for short and long distance trips. Power adjustments for the driver’s seat make it easy to find a position that works. One touch Buick deserves applause for is the seat belt presenter. The front seat belts are nestled away when the Cascada is turned off to make it easier to get in and out of the back seat. But when you start it up, the presenter extends for both the driver and passenger to buckle in. The back seat provides enough space for kids or small adults. Taller folks like myself will find minimal legroom. With the top up, anyone sitting back here will feel very confined. With the top down, this feeling goes away. 
      Step into the 2016 Camaro Convertible’s interior and you’ll find the same retro ideas from the previous model such as the shape of the dash and circular vents. But Chevrolet improved the overall usability of the Camaro’s interior. For example, the retro-inspired engine information gauges that were placed ahead of the shifter in the previous generation are gone. In its place are a set of air vents that also control the temperature of the climate control system. 
      Our tester featured the optional Chevrolet MyLink system with navigation. We know we’re beating a dead horse with our complaints with MyLink such as a slow response when going from various screens and recognizing devices plugged into the USB ports. But you would think that GM would maybe issue an update or something by now to fix some of these issues? Like other Chevrolet models we have driven this year, the Camaro’s MyLink system comes with Android Auto and Apple CarPlay compatibility. We tried CarPlay and found it to be easier to use than most automaker’s infotainment systems. But, we had issues with apps crashing and the system not always recognizing our phone.
      The front bucket seats are quite comfortable and will hold you in if you decide to tackle that special road aggressively. A set of power adjustments makes it easy for anyone to find a comfortable position. The back seat is best reserved for small kids or extra storage as legroom is nonexistent. You would think that the Camaro Convertible wouldn’t feel as claustrophobic as the coupe since you can put the top down, but it isn’t. Sitting in the Camaro convertible with the top down, I felt like I was being contained in a small box. Blame the high belt line for this.
      Powertrain:
      Power for the Buick Cascada comes from a turbocharged 1.6L four-cylinder with 200 horsepower and 207 pound-feet of torque. This is paired with a six-speed automatic. The figures are impressive for this engine. But drop it into the Cascada and it is quite disappointing. Performance is very lethargic as the engine has to overcome the nearly two tons of Cascada. It feels like an eternity getting up to speed and you’ll find yourself putting the pedal to the floor to get the vehicle moving at a sufficient rate. EPA figures for the Cascada stand at 20 City/27 Highway/23 Combined. My average for the week landed at 21 mpg. 
      The Camaro’s engine lineup includes a 3.6L V6, turbocharged 2.0L four, and our SS tester’s 6.2L V8. The V8 pumps out 455 horsepower and 455 pound-feet of torque. We had the optional eight-speed automatic, but you can get a six-speed manual. The V8 makes the Camaro Convertible stupidly fun. I found myself wanting to roll down the window at a stop light to tell the vehicle next to me “let me play you the song of my people” before stomping on the accelerator and having the V8 roar into life as the light turns green. The engine will pin you in your seat if you floor it and there is a never-ending stream of power throughout the rev range. A nice touch is the optional dual-mode exhaust system that only amplifies the noises of the V8. The eight-speed automatic is ofine around town and on the highway but stumbles somewhat in enthusiastic driving where it takes a moment to downshift when slowing down. Fuel economy for the Camaro SS Convertible stands at 17 City/28 Highway/20 Combined. I got about 19 mpg during my week-long test.
      Ride & Handling:
      Describing the ride and handling characteristics of the Cascada can be summed up in one word; smooth. Buick’s engineers tuned the Cascada’s suspension to deliver an almost magic carpet ride. Even with a set of twenty-inch wheels as standard equipment, the Cascada is able to deal with rough roads with no issues. Around corners, the Cascada feels planted and body roll is kept in check. But don’t plan on doing anything enthusiastic with it. The steering is a little bit too light for it. Drive it like a relaxed cruiser and you’ll enjoy it. Wind buffeting is minimal with either the windows rolled up or down.
      The Camaro Convertible is shocking as to how well it handles. Part of this comes down to optional Magnetic Ride Control (MRC) system which limits body roll. Chevrolet engineers also worked on improving the structural rigidity of the Camaro. The combination makes the convertible just as good as the coupe in corners. Direction change is fast and there is plenty of grip coming from the meaty tires. Where the Camaro Convertible falters is the ride quality. The SS comes with a set of twenty-inch wheels. While they do look sharp, it makes for a somewhat unbearable ride. Bumps of any size are clearly transmitted to those sitting inside. MRC does its best to provide a comfortable ride, but it might be worth considering going down to a smaller wheel to improve the ride. Wind buffeting is kept in check with the windows up or down.
      Price:
      The 2016 Buick Cascada starts at $33,065 for the base model. Our up-level Premium starts at $36,065 and comes to an as-tested price of $37,385 thanks to the vehicle being finished in an optional blue color. You really don’t get much in terms of additional features when compared to the base Cascada aside from some additional safety features - front and rear parking sensors, lane departure warning, and forward collision alert - and automatic wipers. Also for that amount of cash, you could with the Audi A3 cabriolet which offers a slightly more premium interior. But you would lose out on the larger back seat of the Cascada. You would be better off with the base Cascada.
      If you have your heart set on a Camaro Convertible, be ready to shell out the cash. The 2016 Camaro 2SS Convertible carries a base sticker of $48,300 - $6,005 more expensive than the coupe. Add on the list of options fitted to our tester such as the eight-speed automatic, magnetic ride control, and dual-mode exhaust system and you’ll end up with an as-tested price of $54,075. I’ll give you a moment to pick yourself up from the floor due to the price shock. The Camaro is nice car all-around, but is it really worth dropping $54,000?! We’re not so sure. 
      Verdict:
      Both of vehicles have issues that don’t make them as appealing. The Cascada’s engine either needs to be kicked to the curb or head off to the gym to get a bit more power. It would nice if Buick could also figure how to put in the dash from the updated Encore into the Cascada, although that might prove to be an engineering nightmare and something that would be better suited for the next-generation model. The Camaro Convertible’s price tag will make a number of people and their bank accounts cry. Also for being a convertible, the Camaro still feels as claustrophobic as the coupe.
      But when you drop the tops in both models, you forget all about the issues. Instead, you begin to take in the sky and rush of the wind. This makes you remember why you bought a convertible, to enjoy the feeling of openness. It is only when you put the top back up that makes you wonder if you can live with the issues. In the case of the Cascada, the answer is no. The Camaro is a maybe.
       
       
      Disclaimer: General Motors Provided the Cascada and Camaro; Insurance, and One Tank of Gas
      Year: 2016
      Make: Buick
      Model: Cascada
      Trim: Premium
      Engine: Turbocharged 1.6L SIDI DOHC with VVT
      Driveline: Front-Wheel Drive, Six-Speed Automatic
      Horsepower @ RPM: 200 @ 5,500
      Torque @ RPM: 207 @ 1,800 - 4,500, 221 @ 2,200 - 4,000 (with overboost)
      Fuel Economy: City/Highway/Combined - 20/27/23
      Curb Weight: 3,979 lbs
      Location of Manufacture: Gliwice, Poland
      Base Price: $36,065
      As Tested Price: $37,385 (Includes $925.00 Destination Charge)
      Options:
      Deep Sky Metallic - $395.00
      Year: 2016
      Make: Chevrolet
      Model: Camaro Convertible
      Trim: SS
      Engine: 6.2L VVT DI V8
      Driveline: Rear-Wheel Drive, Eight-Speed Automatic
      Horsepower @ RPM: 455 @ 6,000
      Torque @ RPM: 455 @ 4,400
      Fuel Economy: City/Highway/Combined - 17/28/20
      Curb Weight: 3,966 lbs
      Location of Manufacture: Lansing, MI
      Base Price: $48,300
      As Tested Price: $54,075 (Includes $995.00 Destination Charge)
      Options:
      Magnetic Ride Control - $1,695.00
      Eight-Speed Automatic - $1,495.00
      Dual-Mode Exhaust - $895.00
      Chevrolet MyLink with Navigation - $495.00
      20" 5-Split Spoke Aluminum Wheels - $200.00

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