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First Impressions...08 Malibu

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It seems that the automotive press from what little they have experienced so far with the Malibu like it very much, but you can read that for yourself below...

FIRST IMPRESSIONS OF THE 2008 CHEVROLET MALIBU

An estimated 20 members of the media — including car enthusiast and business writers, fashion experts, and an

international cast of journalists — had an opportunity to experience the new 2008 Chevrolet Malibu for

themselves last week, at the Milford Proving Grounds in Milford, Mich. Those driving impressions won’t be

appearing in print until at least Nov. 2, but here’s a sneak peek at their thoughts:

“This reinvents the value equation.” — Warren Brown, “The Washington Post”

“Except for Corvette, this is the best Chevy ever made.” — Gary Witzenburg, “Edmunds”

The Malibu has better engine character and NVH than the Camry.”— Eddie Alterman, “Motive”

“Best four cylinder Detroit has ever done … sounds solid and I don’t hear that raspy induction anymore.” — Paul

Eistenstein, “TheCarConnection.com”

“Outstanding fit and finish … and better on the bumps than

Camry.” — Joe DeMatio, “Automobile”

The Malibu is more composed than the Camry … the

steering stays where you want it and needs less

correction.” — Bob Gritzinger, “Autoweek”

“I love this car … the red one is mine!” — Dani Stahl, “Nylon

Magazine”

The 2008 Chevrolet Malibu is slated to appear in

showrooms in November.

GM

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If what these journalists are saying is true, alot of people are going to need grief counseling immediately.

There is no way a domestic product could ever be better than a cheap-two-link-suspension-parrot-beak-melted-dove-bar designed non-union-injure-the-workers-and-who-cares-about-this-country-ill-buy-what-I-want-import.

Let the wailing and gnashing of teeth begin.

Say what you want about prior products, journalists have never gushed to this extent for an everyday Chevrolet.

Especially anyone from Edmunds.

It looks like Chevrolet may very well have a winner.

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If what these journalists are saying is true, alot of people are going to need grief counseling immediately.

There is no way a domestic product could ever be better than a cheap-two-link-suspension-parrot-beak-melted-dove-bar designed non-union-injure-the-workers-and-who-cares-about-this-country-ill-buy-what-I-want-import.

Let the wailing and gnashing of teeth begin.

Say what you want about prior products, journalists have never gushed to this extent for an everyday Chevrolet.

Especially anyone from Edmunds.

It looks like Chevrolet may very well have a winner.

it sure would be a shock to the world for gm to actually have a car that sored up in sales...

wonder how much a winning chevy is capable of selling...

and if gm is capable of filling a big seller...

honnestly GM hasnt had a single vehicle sell over 300k in a long time without considering the truck platforms...

hrmmm...

wonder how much business those magazines can bring... just by saying something like better then camry, or best chevy ever... how many old gm fans will drop their pants and go get one?

and if a new wave of customers is to come with such a hit, how long will it take for gm to revitalize all their vehicles with the same enthusiasm?

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$100 million dollars in advertising is quite a commitment for this car alone, don't forget that. But they are on the path of revitalizing their cars quicker. You have to realize this whole global unification takes time. There were a lot of pieces to the overall GM puzzle that did not fit together for a long time. So as soon as the whole global process is in order I think GM will be set to have cars coming out quicker and MCE improvements will come quicker too.

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That comment from the Edmunds journalist is very telling. This makes me even more excited for what I already thought was an outstanding car.

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This is GREAT news! Now if they can only fix that ass on that car.....LOL

If the car is supposed to hit showrooms IN November, why is the embargo date on driving impressions 11-2-07?

I would expect we'd start seeing driving impressions NOW....a couple of months ahead of introduction.....you know....help shore up public interest! What's GM doing?

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“I love this car … the red one is mine!” — Dani Stahl, “Nylon

Magazine”

WTH is Nylon Magazine doing at a driving impression event?

A quick search for car on their website brought up article headlines that have nothing to do w/ cars. A search for Camry, Malibu, and automobile all returned no results.

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WTH is Nylon Magazine doing at a driving impression event?

A quick search for car on their website brought up article headlines that have nothing to do w/ cars. A search for Camry, Malibu, and automobile all returned no results.

Uh oh, GM spent all that money on fake positive reviews!
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It's going to take a few generations of top notch Malibus before the public starts buying them in numbers.

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It's going to take a few generations of top notch Malibus before the public starts buying them in numbers.

That's what I think. As good as the new 'Bu may be, it's not going to drastically change the marketplace in just a few years. It won't change the marketplace period, over multiple generations, if GM doesn't continually update and market it. Do not let it grow stale on the vine, GM.

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This is GREAT news! Now if they can only fix that ass on that car.....LOL

I'm in Cali right now and the never ending procession of imports of the roads is daunting. I don't think that someone in South Orange County or Walnut Creek will proclaim loudly that they want a 'Bu over the Camry.

I wish them well. They need a good staple car. You don't like the ass...I don't like the C-pillar. Lately, a lot of rental cars I've had have visibility issues when turning lanes. Not fun.

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And yet, aside from the rear of this car which is unappealing to me at best so far, I wouldn't ever get one.

Why?

I'm that vocal minority that calls for a stick shift. Know who does offer one? Honda, Toyota, Hyundai, Volkswagen, Nissan, Pontiac (although only on GT Sport models of G6), Ford, and Mercury.

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And yet, aside from the rear of this car which is unappealing to me at best so far, I wouldn't ever get one.

Why?

I'm that vocal minority that calls for a stick shift. Know who does offer one? Honda, Toyota, Hyundai, Volkswagen, Nissan, Pontiac (although only on GT Sport models of G6), Ford, and Mercury.

Sure they all offer a stick on the 4 cylinder but who offers one on the V6? My guess is only Nissan and VW.
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Sure they all offer a stick on the 4 cylinder but who offers one on the V6? My guess is only Nissan and VW.

Honda, Mazda and Pontiac obviously do as well. Edited by blackviper8891
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This is GREAT news! Now if they can only fix that ass on that car.....LOL

If the car is supposed to hit showrooms IN November, why is the embargo date on driving impressions 11-2-07?

I would expect we'd start seeing driving impressions NOW....a couple of months ahead of introduction.....you know....help shore up public interest! What's GM doing?

The rear isn't as bad in person, IMO. It could still use some work, though. I don't think that's going to make or break many deals in this segment, anyways.

GM did the same thing with the Enclave. The Enclave was on sale before any reviews every came out (I think Autoweek tested a dealer's Enclave so they could write a review before the embargo) as well. For some reason I guess GM thinks it should have the vehicles out there when the reviews start. That way, if someone comes in to check one out and possibly buy it, there are examples sitting on the lot. It would probably be a bit of a let down if they went there and were told to wait another month.

BTW, if "this is the best Chevy ever made" (besides the Corvette) is supposed to include the T900s, that's really saying something.

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That comment from the Edmunds journalist is very telling. This makes me even more excited for what I already thought was an outstanding car.

I don't know the others but I know Gary from Edmunds and he is as much a dyed in the wool GM fan as we are.

He has written many GM approved books including the new book on the Solstice. He even is a Solstice owner.

I like hearing postive reviews and hope most of these are accurate as I like the car and hope it sells well.

FYI Garys wife also is a writer and has also worked for GM in the past too.

Garys a great writer and car nut. He also wrote the GM approved book on the Fiero in the 80's.

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I'm still concerned about the interior. It's too narrow, the materials/build quality is questionable (especially the upholstery), and the rear seating position is awkward. It doesn't feel large inside, even if it looks long.

It's not too different from the AURA, which isn't doing too well, so hopefully brand recognition and marketing will make all the difference.

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I'm interested to see what CR will say about the Malibu.

Honda, Mazda and Pontiac obviously do as well.

Not anymore for Pontiac. The 6-speed manual on the G6 was discontinued in mid-way of MY2007. But such combo might come back when the G8 V6 hits.
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I'm interested to see what CR will say about the Malibu.

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lol...complaint about the trunk, which is as large/larger than the competition.

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That's what I think. As good as the new 'Bu may be, it's not going to drastically change the marketplace in just a few years. It won't change the marketplace period, over multiple generations, if GM doesn't continually update and market it. Do not let it grow stale on the vine, GM.

what happened to the nissan altima... didnt it see upwards of 2-3 times previous years sales?

now of course if gm got that kinda result on its actual retail sales... then it might be another 10k units or so... :pokeowned:

but seriously... this one has got to sell more then the previous year, unless the old was is renamed classic for fleets...

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I'm in Cali right now and the never ending procession of imports of the roads is daunting. I don't think that someone in South Orange County or Walnut Creek will proclaim loudly that they want a 'Bu over the Camry.

I wish them well. They need a good staple car. You don't like the ass...I don't like the C-pillar. Lately, a lot of rental cars I've had have visibility issues when turning lanes. Not fun.

I agree with you on the perception challenge.....especially as I live in SoCal too......but I have to tell you, for the most part, Malibu tells a telling story....it's attractive (ass aside) and should prove to have a solid chassis....good handling.....great powertrains.....

....but I have to say the interior really worries me. It's nice looking with the swooping curves and the two-tone accents......but the center stack controls are cheap-looking....and the fit-and-finish, if not significantly better than AURA, will seriously disappoint.

Accord ('08) has raised the bar yet again on interior execution....and the Camry, for all it's detractors on here, is still a step above this new Malibu.

Let's hope for the best......

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....and the Camry, for all it's detractors on here, is still a step above this new Malibu.

Based on what?

Total cost of ownership? Nope. Pricing hasn't been released yet.

Fuel Economy? Nope. Fuel economy figures haven't been released yet.

Suspension? Nope. Just nope. Not even worth arguing.

Top-end Horespower? Yes. Usable Torque- No. At least not by the spec sheet.

Looks? Nope.

Safety? Nope. The Aura is a full 5-stars and the Malibu will be too.

Reliability? Maybe? Maybe up to 0.75 problem per vehicle. Maybe.

Interior? Maybe? I'll wait and judge that when the Malibu arrives.

It's clear that GM photography leaves a lot to be desired.

Camry sales may be several steps above the current Malibu, but it's kind of hard to point out how the Camry is even half a step above the new Malibu, especially before the Malibu even finds its way into customers' garages.

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hrmmm...

wonder how much business those magazines can bring... just by saying something like better then camry, or best chevy ever... how many old gm fans will drop their pants and go get one?

....

hmmm.....

unique dealership experience comes to mind.....

lifestyles of Newbiewar a close second......

wants to ask....

thinks better of it....

nevermind.

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hmmm.....

unique dealership experience comes to mind.....

lifestyles of Newbiewar a close second......

wants to ask....

thinks better of it....

nevermind.

ask away man...

i know most of our advertisement was focused on pricing and the avaliblity...

but very often we'd get consumers on national advertisement come in, that was too soon...

people would poor in to the dealerships wanting to see the GMT900 2 months before it was on the lot, because advertisement had already started... and when the vehicle already got there... the traffic on the show room wasnt as it was the months prior...

and depending on the advertisement it would trigger a certain response... if GM could get some nice angles, and get some front page shots across most magazines, newspapers, and written publications... things could prove to provide renewed respect for the detroit sedan...

but for the most part... 99% of advertisement for vehicles is wasted unless its consistant... and its well thought out, and catchy...

for example... remember the employee discount commercials... how much money did GM spend in advertisements with that promotion... in just that month alone? i bet more then they are planning to spend on the malibu... of 100 million... if gm spends how much per year, 2.9 billion? and your only going to use 100 million for the launch of a car that is suppost to raise the bar for the entire car manufacture...?

but for example... if gm says, hey 50% of all advertisement for a year is spent on new launches... and 50% of it on reinforcement advertisement that allows owners to keep the car in mind, but they already learned about the car they wanted a few months ago...

but i'm not an advertising buff, or even anyone with any experiance in that subject... its just a guess... that you want to point out the freshest product...

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