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Next-gen Astra?

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there are some nicer images even on autoblog i think. i just looked at them actually a few minutes ago, but lost the links.

it may be a nice product to move into in a couple years, switch one astra for another.........

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The same boring been-there-done-that Mazda3/Vibe greenhouse. Who is going to break that tired trend?
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Hey, it's a Mazda, judging by the side!!!

No.. Wait... It's a Nissan at the front...

Actually, on second glance at the nose, maybe this is an upmarket Toyota Yaris. A Lexus version of that car maybe?!?!

Hell, who knows what it is. Sure is ugly though.

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Hey, it's a Mazda, judging by the side!!!

No.. Wait... It's a Nissan at the front...

Actually, on second glance at the nose, maybe this is an upmarket Toyota Yaris. A Lexus version of that car maybe?!?!

Hell, who knows what it is. Sure is ugly though.

Don't know about all that, all I know is the current one is selling like hotcakes here. The next gen will sell just as much if not more. Remember, GME makes money, GMNA does not.

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Don't know about all that, all I know is the current one is selling like hotcakes here. The next gen will sell just as much if not more. Remember, GME makes money, GMNA does not.

Don't worry, I remember the days of GME bleeding to death (Not too long ago, in fact) while GMNA showered in SUV profits.

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Don't worry, I remember the days of GME bleeding to death (Not too long ago, in fact) while GMNA showered in SUV profits.

Yeah, but the shoe is on the other foot now! :neenerneener:

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i MIGHT be buying an Astra soon........any chance a loyal C&Ger who might be on a trip in europa could maybe talk some of your Euro folks into getting me a proper Opel grille, airbag/steering wheel cover, and keychain?

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i MIGHT be buying an Astra soon........any chance a loyal C&Ger who might be on a trip in europa could maybe talk some of your Euro folks into getting me a proper Opel grille, airbag/steering wheel cover, and keychain?

I thought the Astra thing was off for you?

But seriously, I like the refresh/redesign.

Again, I think GM is getting on the right track here, folks.

Chris

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the big loyoff happened here today at work, fortunately for this second round, i was spared again. However, in three months again, who knows.

but its obvious to me, if i get anything i better do it now while loans are attainable and am employed, you still need a car no matter what. And since the Astra is the best offer on the table for me right now, with all my incentives, it might make more fiscal sense than anything...replacing 95,000 miles with a new ride with 50% better mpg, probably less payment as well, and a 100k warranty.

Funny you mentioned SVT focus, in the paper today is a used SVT Focus with only 11k miles on it.

I got a killer Saab 9-3 quote yesterday which i would be on in a heartbeat if this wasn't just a second car. Less than 20g for a new 9-3. Yikes. people want to sell cars, apparently cars from GME. Maybe Carl Peter and PCS are conspiring.

in any case, an Astra now would be a nice entry into the fold for a couple years until this new one comes out.....hopefully with 60 more hp and a 6 speed tranny.

One thing I learned recently.....the current astra is a euro top pick in safety, and also C/D gave astra one of its ten best safety cars under 25k as well. Big plus! It even has active head restraints!

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Remember, GME makes money, GMNA does not.

Yeah, things are really all happy and rosey over there:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...&refer=home

Don't know about all that, all I know is the current one is selling like hotcakes here.

Yeah, selling like hotcakes so fast, they're cutting production:

General Motors' temporary shutdowns also affect plants in Ellesmere Port and Luton, in England, as well as Zaragoza, Spain, reducing production of the Astra, Corsa and Zafira models, Kroemer said.
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Don't know about all that, all I know is the current one is selling like hotcakes here. The next gen will sell just as much if not more. Remember, GME makes money, GMNA does not.

Well you'd think they'd be making some money since the new Camaro has been on sale for 3 years and they brought the Chinese Park Ave and SLS over here right at release. The Chevy Beat sure has been selling well ever since it replaced the Aveo in summer 2007. Of course with gas prices the way they are, it's no surprise that the 2-Mode hybrid has about a 50% adoption rate on all new GM cars. When the Cruze goes on sale in January '09 sales will probably take off pretty quick. </mirror universe>

GME makes money in spite of itself... not because it does anything particularly well.

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Well you'd think they'd be making some money since the new Camaro has been on sale for 3 years and they brought the Chinese Park Ave and SLS over here right at release. The Chevy Beat sure has been selling well ever since it replaced the Aveo in summer 2007. Of course with gas prices the way they are, it's no surprise that the 2-Mode hybrid has about a 50% adoption rate on all new GM cars. When the Cruze goes on sale in January '09 sales will probably take off pretty quick. </mirror universe>

GME makes money in spite of itself... not because it does anything particularly well.

Too Funny, yet sad at the same time.

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Yeah, but the shoe is on the other foot now! :neenerneener:

Ya know... It's a good thing the Asstra sells over there, because it's virtually non-existant here.

I've seen less Astras on the road than G8s. And to be honest, I don't see all that many G8s.

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Yeah, things are really all happy and rosey over there

Yeah, selling like hotcakes so fast, they're cutting production

:pokeowned:

Well you'd think they'd be making some money since the new Camaro has been on sale for 3 years and they brought the Chinese Park Ave and SLS over here right at release. The Chevy Beat sure has been selling well ever since it replaced the Aveo in summer 2007. Of course with gas prices the way they are, it's no surprise that the 2-Mode hybrid has about a 50% adoption rate on all new GM cars. When the Cruze goes on sale in January '09 sales will probably take off pretty quick. </mirror universe>

GME makes money in spite of itself... not because it does anything particularly well.

LMFAO.

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Ya know... It's a good thing the Asstra sells over there, because it's virtually non-existant here.

I've seen less Astras on the road than G8s. And to be honest, I don't see all that many G8s.

its weird, the last couple weeks I've seen a few G8's every day.

soon, decent chance i may have an astra to look at every day in my driveway soon.

I am just wondering, you think cadillac might revive the Cimarron and rebadge an Astra ;) ?

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The Astra is a great car, we can just write off its lack of sales to Americans being dumbasses.

Chris,

(current resident of dumf@#kistan.)

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cupholders, an armrest, an mp3 jack, some added hp, and less sensationalized press would help.

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Yes, they would.

However, it is still a MUCH better car than say the corolla, which is still selling.

Chris

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i think the biggest liability in this market for the astra is no sedan. and no advertising.

funny, i just got an email from salesguy and he is screwing with me. i thought saturn was no haggle. Jeez. why do you have to be so blunt with these people?

"i need you to tell me the price of the car"

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i think the biggest liability in this market for the astra is no sedan. and no advertising.

funny, i just got an email from salesguy and he is screwing with me. i thought saturn was no haggle. Jeez. why do you have to be so blunt with these people?

"i need you to tell me the price of the car"

Saturn is (or should be) no haggle as far as the price of the car. Dealerships often find ways to work with a customer on accessories, though. In the week or so I was a salesman at Saturn, I heard/saw no method of haggling down the price of a car. The only things that could be negotiated were accessories and financing.

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an email quote from the saturn dealer that only includes payment quotes and not an actual quote on the price of the car? where is the straight forwarded ness there?

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I am just wondering, you think cadillac might revive the Cimarron and rebadge an Astra ;) ?

In light of recent decisions we've been hearing and seeing GM make, it's only a matter of time until this particular nightmare becomes a bold-faced reality.

(Now, I feel like going into a brief rant ...)

You know, the price of gas is going down ... and since GM is now focusing on solely building small, front-drive tin cans that no one in the North American market really wants, and also since it is a given that you will see people once again going back to SUVs and so on in light of such a change, I wonder what sort of position that will leave the company in over a few years time? I'll be so bold as to say that, because GM as a whole mostly let the Europeans slowly gain too much of a say in a lot of things that they do not have much knowledge in over the last few years, and because there is a chance that gas prices will continue to go down, GM will be holding the bag for not having the ability to build capable vehicles for all segments, for all people, for all wants and needs.

It was Alfred Sloan who said something to the effect of "a car for every purpose and purse" and that was the mission GM followed best during it's glory years. Sadly, it hasn't followed it in almost three decades or so now. It's obvious what GM should be doing, but oddly, it isn't. Now the mission is of a horribly narrow-minded focus to build products on a basis of market fashions, to build whatever sells best at a given time as well as you can and just stick everything else on the back-burner. It's because of that GM is being run into the ground. The executives who are so short-sighted as to follow such a method should be handed pink slips by the top brass ... but sadly even the top brass at GM is shamefully guilty of this fatal error as well.

GM management is still mostly stuck to adhering to the flawed, deranged ideals set up by the moronic Roger Smith in the 1980s and there is no denying that. May God help GM and it's executives survive throughout the next decade, that is if they can last that long.

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