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...giving a $h! anymore.

About GM

Hell, about the country itself.

It all just seems so hoplessly wrong, and determined to become even moreso.

The popular "visions" for the future that are bandied about are anathema to me.

I'm starting to become very,very, angry.

I'm not loving the time we live in at all.

And it has almost nothing to do with the economy either.

So, what to do?

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Its easier to give up when times are tough, especially with something you are attached with emotionally. One of the first defense mechanisms is to get rid of it because it causes stress in our lives. It's completely understandable. This is why fair weather fans are so common. The true fans stand by their company, country, and hell, their sports team.

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It's getting harder to find reasons to stand by what isn't what you "signed up for".

In a sense, much of it is now the polar opposite of what made me stand there in the first place.

That reality begs the questions I am now asking myself.

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>>"I'm not loving the time we live in at all."<

Too true on numerous fronts.

Hold true to your values & principals- you owe compromise there to no one. You still have, or have access to, the products that forged your bond with GM; that is written in time and is unbreakable by all but you.

Will GM, or ANY OTHER MANUFACTURER... EVER build the perfect vehicle for me? No; never. But I have a lifelong unbreakable bond with their past products... and that transfers to strong good will & good wishes for their future. If it all ends in the 101th year, my bond remains.

As far as things larger than GM- the tide is beginning to turn, I believe. Meet up with those who share your views and the voices will grow stronger. It IS possible to reverse the course there- maybe moreso than in the case of GM.

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So, what to do?

Find a nice rust hole, and patch it. Pound out some dents. Cut the roof off the parts car and drive it around the backyard Maybe replace some suspension parts... that requires a lot of bashing. IMHO, the car hobby is the best for getting out frustration... even better than boxing.

If you're still having a hard time, repeat until you're too tired to think about it and go to bed. Tomorrow has to get better eventually.

Seriously, you are preaching to the choir.

From my experience, the best thing to do is something generally constructive. (Cutting the roof off the parts car _is_ constructive, since you need to part it out anyway). Fretting about GM, the economy or the general public lemmings that are jumping off a cliff is helping anything, as you can't be expected to change something so big. Getting things done gets the mind off things and helps you get where _you_ need to go.

Its been two months since I've been out of work. I desperately need to find work to maintain my high flying exotic lifestyle... but I'm not ready. I still haven't gotten my head unscrewed from the old job (and other things). For now, I have other things to bang on... like fixing the van, fixing the wagon, cleaning the yard, fixing the houses and putting out just enough resumes to land a dream job if it falls into my lap. ;-)

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Thanks guys.

I think (for me at least) the question "what to do?" is quite real, and not really a lament.

I really am looking for a good answer to the question. I'm disgusted by the hollowed-out nature of this country (and GM for that matter), and I want to help move things in another direction.

Balthazar: Great post! And I am resigned to the possibility that anything from GM that I hold dear may be relegated to the past. It's those "larger" things that I feel like we are losing that, frankly, make me wish I was still 20 and armed for revolution. At 45, I need other weapons.

SAmadei: So true. Messing with cars is a refuge, one that I depend on and am willing to protect. Getting where I need to go is right at the core of my qestioning, unlike so many here in the US, who whore themselves out for a higher place in the pecking order. Whatever I do has to matter to me or it doesn't work. Average has never worked for me.

daves87rs: Your post hits my current thinking with a bullseye! Simplicity has been a central theme for me lately. Do we really need to live such complex lives? That is a place where our society fails miserably, and I'd like to change that.

The things I was raised to believe in, to expect, to depend on, are all under assault as passe. All of my life I have watched us accept lesser ways of living, a smaller slice of a shrinking pie, and an abdication of freedom and self-sufficiency. I'm just not wired to accept that.

Sacrifice and apologistic thinking are not something to measure progress by, nor a path to a better future.

I can't join the collective that is forming around us, I'm sorry, but it is just wrong.

Innovation and defiance, individuality and freedom, simplicity and privacy - those are watchwords I can get behind.

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I too feel this way @ times. Sometimes I think to myself it would better if it was just Kelsey and I w/ nobody around. Just me and her w/o a care in the world.

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I've felt this way for years...

This country became what I am not, so I abandoned it. I am very proud of what it was and those that made it what it was (and those that still ensure that I can be what I am, for that matter)

As for GM... Well, I've kind of removed myself from the situation. I will always bleed GM, but I cannot allow myself to take a vested interest in their survival anymore. It's detrimental to my being. I guess I'll always have their history to reflect upon. (Like so many things in my life that I've watched become a thing of the past) It seems I was born 50 years too late.

As far as my lifestyle... Not to sound like a psychopath or anything, but I have accepted the fact that I might become "outdated" to this society and that might impair my ability to live in it someday. Just know this; there are certain freedoms that I will NEVER give up and if anyone wants to try me, then I'll accept the outcome and they better be willing to accept that outcome as well.

I really don't think it'll ever get THAT bad though... I think the world will self destruct before then

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This day and age is pretty depressing, and while it pains me to see see my fvaorite automakers is such trouble, a lot of which is their own doing, I can't let it consume me. I also can't let the economic and national situation get to me too much. I pay attention to it, but being obsessed with it and the problems isn't good for the health,.

So with all of those things in mind, I push them towards the side a bit and focus on what makes me happy, and work towards achieving my goals (large and small).

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Become a FoMoCo fan and register Libertarian?

2012: Down with both parties!

But yes, i completely agree with you, i have become rather disenfranchised with everything going on.

Edited by Teh Ricer Civic!
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This song pretty much sums up some of my sentiments lately, and having blissful dreams about this when I sleep doesn't help..

Edited by deftonesfan867
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Become a FoMoCo fan and register Libertarian?

2012: Down with both parties!

But yes, i completely agree with you, i have become rather disenfranchised with everything going on.

Ford has my support ( at least moral support).

And I'm already a registered Libertarian.

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I felt the same six+ months ago but wasn't willing to watch people screw things up only to leave me with the bill. Over the past six months I got politically active on a local level, started a biofuel group, and have done everything I can to teach people why they need to get their head out of their _ss.

By getting on our city budget committee, becoming a PCP in my local party, teaching and pushing for a local CE plant, meeting with state reps, etc., I've been able to start making the changes I know we need.

I still get very frustrated with the whole GM scene, but during my time out, I've been able to show people that buying local means buying GM/Ford/Chrysler. It has been the big push for buying local that has helped me convince people the importance of helping the Big 3, by buying from the Big 3. I've helped promote a local Chevy Dealer, Loren Berg, and because of that Loren lets me take out any of his cars at any time. Driving new GM vehicles alone will help you realize why you are a fan of GM.

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I don't own a gun, nor am I much of activist. However if it comes time for a revolution you better f@#king believe I'll be part of it if my freedom/well being depends on it.

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Disturbing thread...sounds like some people on this forum may end up on CNN some day in one of those 'armed gunmen kills a lot of people' stories...

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Disturbing thread...sounds like some people on this forum may end up on CNN some day in one of those 'armed gunmen kills a lot of people' stories...

If that's what my comment's have lead you to believe then I apologize. What I meant is that I'll be damned if someone tell's me how to live/work/play. We are not a communist country and I believe our forefathers would be disgraced by what we as a nation/world have become.

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Disturbing thread...sounds like some people on this forum may end up on CNN some day in one of those 'armed gunmen kills a lot of people' stories...

Oh please, do not buy into that media garbage. Yes there are people on both sides who advocate violence to achieve their aims, these people target civilians and are terrorists. We a not a bunch of domestic terrorists and i know that i, at least, would never advocate violence to achieve anything because all it does is delegitimize the movement & harms others which is unjustifiable. Although i obviously cannot speak for others and there are undoubtedly people who would advocate violence.

Us law abiding people will use all the political & social movements necessary to achieve our aims... and even if those aims leave no option other than the secession of some states from the Union, there is nothing to say that has to be violent.

Just because you do not seem to mind losing your freedoms in the name of "fairness" doesn't mean that other are fine with it.

Edited by Teh Ricer Civic!
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...giving a &#036;h&#33; anymore.

About GM

Hell, about the country itself.

It all just seems so hoplessly wrong, and determined to become even moreso.

The popular "visions" for the future that are bandied about are anathema to me.

I'm starting to become very,very, angry.

I'm not loving the time we live in at all.

And it has almost nothing to do with the economy either.

So, what to do?

the masses of our population have a lot of effed up priorities right now. I am guessing you're not pleased with it. Problem is its like a trainwreck. We'll have to watch the carnage and maybe it will get better. Maybe it won't. I have a feeling we'll be stuck with the crap in this country till the 2010 and 2012 elections. People may wake up and smell the coffee by then.

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Move to Texas. They can secede if they want.

Ya, I hate Texas... I wouldn't miss them one bit, along with the rest of the South (except for S. Florida).

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Ya, I hate Texas... I wouldn't miss them one bit, along with the rest of the South (except for S. Florida).

Reasoning?

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Ohhhhhh.....the stereotypes.

I'm not a bible thumper or a republican.

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Move to Texas. They can secede if they want.

No they cannot.

No state can secede. Well i guess technically ANY state can secede, but only if they 1) win a war against the Union or 2) the Union doesn't fight them.

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