Jump to content
  • Greetings Guest!

    CheersandGears.com was founded in 2001 and is one of the oldest continuously operating automotive forums out there.  Come see why we have users who visit nearly every day for the past 16+ years. Signup is fast and free, or you can opt for a premium subscription to view the site ad-free.

William Maley

BMW News: What Is In BMW's Future Product Pipeline?

Recommended Posts

A new report from Automotive News says BMW could be expanding their lineup of vehicles in both directions.

On the low end is the 1-Series sedan. Already on sale in China, the model could be coming to U.S. in early 2019 according to a source. Previously, BMW said their small front-wheel drive sedan would not be sold in the U.S. But with Mercedes-Benz bringing the A-Class sedan to U.S. next year, this may have cause BMW to change their minds. A quick refresher, the 1-Series sedan is a front-wheel drive model.

Moving over to the high-end, BMW is readying the 8-Series coupe to debut late next year. They have already shown a concept to give us an idea of what it may look like (to our eyes, it reminds us slightly of the Lexus LC coupe). It will be based on the 7-Series sedan, complete with the CLAR architecture. A convertible and Gran Coupe (4-door coupe) will be introduced at a later date. What will this mean for the 6-Series? Aside from the new 6-series Gran Turismo, expect the rest of the 6-Series family to fade away in the coming years.

Some other bits of information from Automotive News' report,

  • The X2 will go on sale sometime in the first quarter of 2018. It will be based on the X1 and feature coupe-like styling.
  • BMW's 7-Seat X7 will debut next month at the Frankfurt Motor Show, but will not arrive to the U.S. until 2019. 
  • A new 3-Series will go on sale before the end of 2018 and use BMW's CLAR architecture. A concept electric version is expected to debut at Frankfurt.

Source: Automotive News (Subscription Required)


View full article

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

YAWN........ So BMW is going to bring their Chevy / Toyota competitor to the US. FWD Appliance, BLAH! 

How about their BLOATED FATNESS, that would be good to address along with their clear lack of being a driving machine. 

BMW really needs to wake up to the world of change. 

All I see here is them sticking to a worn out formula and not improving their actual auto's much not to mention a seriously outdated design style.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A 1 Series sedan? Really? It seemed to work so well the last they sold one here so hell, might as well screw it up again I guess.

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The 3 series has become too expensive as an entry-level lux sedan, and the 2 series has been 2drs only...so it makes sense to have an entry level sedan. Though the X1 will probably outsell it.

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
27 minutes ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

The 3 series has become too expensive as an entry-level lux sedan, and the 2 series has been 2drs only...so it makes sense to have an entry level sedan. Though the X1 will probably outsell it.

This makes you ask that question of, Is BMW even paying attention to what Americans are Buying in this market? Why waste money on a 1 series car, just stay focused on quality cuv's.

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A 1-series sedan won't sell much volume but I think they want it just because Mercedes and Audi have a car in that segment.  It is taking a long time to get the X7 to market, they have been talking about that for years.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A front wheel drive BMW car for North America.

I cant wait for it to finally show up in Canadian and American BMW dealerships.

tenor.gif

 

tenor.gif

 

Bmw+Drift.gif

 

 

tenor.gif

tumblr_ntilffYXmE1qcv34vo1_500.gif

 

tenor.gif

giphy.gif

 

 

 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 8/10/2017 at 10:47 AM, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

The 3 series has become too expensive as an entry-level lux sedan, and the 2 series has been 2drs only...so it makes sense to have an entry level sedan. Though the X1 will probably outsell it.

BMW needs a car for the 'new credit' 'bad credit' 'first time buyers' 'poseurs with little money' crowds

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A 1 Series won't be bought by anyone other than yuppies trying to project a higher social status. Ugh. An Mk7 GTI will hand the car it's ass on a platter.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
31 minutes ago, Frisky Dingo said:

A 1 Series won't be bought by anyone other than yuppies trying to project a higher social status. Ugh. An Mk7 GTI will hand the car it's ass on a platter.

I think even the yuppies will forgo this car.

1. the new age yuppies nowadays prefer to play with gadgets like phones and tablets and fitbit wrist thingys...

2. the few "car enthusiast" yuppies that are around have grown up from BMW sedans and are either

a) gone to BMW CUVs like the X1 or X3 along with their house playing wives...

b) gone to another German manufacturer...and that yuppie will buy that manufacturer's sedan...but not really...as I think that that yuppie will probably buy that manufacturer's CUV instead.

c) dont laugh, but I believe today's car enthusiast yuppie will probably buy a Ford Mustang instead of the 1 Series as its cool to buy a Mustang once again...

d) and if that is only if today's car enthusiast yuppie respects the internal combustion engine...because I find that today's car enthusiast yuppie is on the electric vehicle bandwagon...and he is probably on the waiting list for the Model 3 already...or will be soon...

Edited by oldshurst442
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
57 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

I think even the yuppies will forgo this car.

1. the new age yuppies nowadays prefer to play with gadgets like phones and tablets and fitbit wrist thingys...

2. the few "car enthusiast" yuppies that are around have grown up from BMW sedans and are either

a) gone to BMW CUVs like the X1 or X3 along with their house playing wives...

b) gone to another German manufacturer...and that yuppie will buy that manufacturer's sedan...but not really...as I think that that yuppie will probably buy that manufacturer's CUV instead.

c) dont laugh, but I believe today's car enthusiast yuppie will probably buy a Ford Mustang instead of the 1 Series as its cool to buy a Mustang once again...

d) and if that is only if today's car enthusiast yuppie respects the internal combustion engine...because I find that today's car enthusiast yuppie is on the electric vehicle bandwagon...and he is probably on the waiting list for the Model 3 already...or will be soon...

Agree with everything here especially about the technology gadgets and looking / waiting for the EV's to land.

BMW is truly wasting money on this A1 FWD appliance.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No one wants a 1-series, yuppies know the 3-series is where it is at.  And they can argue it is better than a 5-series because it has heritage as the ultimate sports sedan and it is for young and hip people.  Where is the 5-series is like Dad's car.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 8/13/2017 at 10:39 PM, smk4565 said:

No one wants a 1-series, yuppies know the 3-series is where it is at.  And they can argue it is better than a 5-series because it has heritage as the ultimate sports sedan and it is for young and hip people.  Where is the 5-series is like Dad's car.

'yuppies' were an '80s-90s thing...don't the hip kids today aspire to Teslas and prefer Uber to driving? 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 8/13/2017 at 7:39 PM, smk4565 said:

No one wants a 1-series, yuppies know the 3-series is where it is at.  And they can argue it is better than a 5-series because it has heritage as the ultimate sports sedan and it is for young and hip people.  Where is the 5-series is like Dad's car.

But Yuppies are all entering their 50's, so a 5 series is where they are supposed to be at this age, not the 3 series and the 3 series lost it's driving Machine cred's to the ATS!

Yuppies are out of date in regards to the lower end auto's and Millennials are now all about the EV, Smartphones and using Uber or Lyft.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 minutes ago, dfelt said:

But Yuppies are all entering their 50's, so a 5 series is where they are supposed to be at this age, not the 3 series and the 3 series lost it's driving Machine cred's to the ATS! 

The oldest Yuppies are in their 60s now... 

  • Sad 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

The oldest Yuppies are in their 60s now... 

Does that mean I should not be wearing polo shirts with the collar up? :unsure:

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
21 minutes ago, dfelt said:

Does that mean I should not be wearing polo shirts with the collar up? :unsure:

LoL...I remember doing my teenage Yuppie wannabe thing in high school in the late 80s w/ Izod shirts w/ the little alligator and Ralph Lauren shirts w/ the polo ponies..still wore Ralph through my 30s.. had my Members Only jacket in the 80s also.. 

(now what passes for fashion in my wardrobe are t-shirts and polos from long-gone tech companies and past tech conferences..now those are cool IMO...)

Edited by Cubical-aka-Moltar

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
22 minutes ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

LoL...I remember doing my teenage Yuppie wannabe thing in high school in the late 80s w/ Izod shirts w/ the little alligator and Ralph Lauren shirts w/ the polo ponies..still wore Ralph through my 30s.. had my Members Only jacket in the 80s also.. 

(now what passes for fashion in my wardrobe are t-shirts and polos from long-gone tech companies and past tech conferences..now those are cool IMO...)

I would so totally agree but the wife likes me in Tommy Bahama Polo's with the collar down. :P 

Ultimate Yuppie Song

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 8/14/2017 at 0:44 AM, balthazar said:

3-series lost it's 'ultimate sports sedan' title- didn't you hear?

Since the Cadillac ATS is going away I guess the 3-series will slide back to 2nd place in sport sedans behind the Alfa Romeo Guilia.   I don't think BMW is so lost that they can't win a sport sedan battle with Alfa Romeo over time.

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

Since the Cadillac ATS is going away I guess the 3-series will slide back to 2nd place in sport sedans behind the Alfa Romeo Guilia.   I don't think BMW is so lost that they can't win a sport sedan battle with Alfa Romeo over time.

I can't imagine Alfa winning over BMW once it's unreliability and quality problems are factored in...

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
19 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

Since the Cadillac ATS is going away I guess the 3-series will slide back to 2nd place in sport sedans behind the Alfa Romeo Guilia.   I don't think BMW is so lost that they can't win a sport sedan battle with Alfa Romeo over time.

Read between the lines on that JDN announcement. The ATS is getting renamed and probably getting a hatchback. There is no more Regal sedan anymore either. But in both cases, that slot in the brands' lineups are not going unfilled. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Read between the lines on that JDN announcement. The ATS is getting renamed and probably getting a hatchback. There is no more Regal sedan anymore either. But in both cases, that slot in the brands' lineups are not going unfilled. 

I read Johan's statement as CT5 replaces CTS and ATS, and slots in between the current ATS and CTS in price.  And a CT4 competes with CLA and A3 and that sweet BMW 1-series that we are getting.  Johan knows he can't beat the E-class, C-class or 3-series.  So they are going to try that tweener strategy again, maybe go after the MKZ and Infiniti Q50.  

Cadillac already took their best shot with ATS and CTS, time to go back down the food chain.  And if he wanted to take big shots the XT5 wouldn't be an Acadia, and XT4 wouldn't be an Equinox.  So we know where his plan is going.  And he was there before XT4 hit development, excuse time is over for him being new, if he wanted a CTS-V engine in a mid-size SUV he'd have it already, even FCA has pulled that trick off a few times with no money and dated platforms.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, smk4565 said:

Johan knows he can't beat the E-class, C-class or 3-series.

Wait, how could all 3 of those cars sell in identical numbers???

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



  • Similar Content

    • By William Maley
      Lamborghini has been toying with the idea of electrification for some time. It would allow them to meet stricter emission regulations while retaining their naturally aspirated engines. Their CEO has made it official, the replacement for the Aventador will have electrification.
      "The next Aventador will be hybrid, with a V12. A decision is made on that and this is something that will keep us different from the others and this is very important," said Stefano Domenicali to Auto Express.
      In addition, the replacement for the Huracan will go down the electrification route by retaining the V10  and adding an electric motor. We got a hint of this back in March during a interview Maurizio Reggiani, Lamborghini's chief technical officer.
      The Urus will be the first Lamborghini to be electrified when the plug-in hybrid model launches towards the end of this decade, followed by the Aventador replacement a few years after.
      Source: Auto Express

      View full article
    • By William Maley
      Lamborghini has been toying with the idea of electrification for some time. It would allow them to meet stricter emission regulations while retaining their naturally aspirated engines. Their CEO has made it official, the replacement for the Aventador will have electrification.
      "The next Aventador will be hybrid, with a V12. A decision is made on that and this is something that will keep us different from the others and this is very important," said Stefano Domenicali to Auto Express.
      In addition, the replacement for the Huracan will go down the electrification route by retaining the V10  and adding an electric motor. We got a hint of this back in March during a interview Maurizio Reggiani, Lamborghini's chief technical officer.
      The Urus will be the first Lamborghini to be electrified when the plug-in hybrid model launches towards the end of this decade, followed by the Aventador replacement a few years after.
      Source: Auto Express
    • By William Maley
      The Ford Fusion will be going away in due course as part of the company's plan to put more focus on utility vehicles and trucks. But that doesn't mean the Fusion name will heading to the trash bin.
      Bloomberg has learned from sources that Ford is planning to move the Fusion name to a new wagon that will compete with the Subaru Outback. The new model will also use the same mechanical underpinnings as the current Fusion - leading us to believe that it will be some version of the Mondeo wagon sold in Europe. Ford spokesman Mike Levine declined to comment on the new model, but did say the Fusion name would continue "because of its awareness, positive imagery and value with consumers.”
      Ford needs a way to keep their current sedan buyers returning their showroom after the Fusion sedan drops out. Analysis done by Kelly Blue Book revealed the less than half of Fusion owners are loyal to the brand. KBB also found that the Honda CR-V and Toyota RAV4 were the most popular SUV models that Fusion owners would consider.
      “Ford has a hard time moving people from their cars to SUVs,” said Michelle Krebs, a senior analyst with Autotrader.
      Source: Bloomberg (Subscription Required)

      View full article
    • By William Maley
      The Ford Fusion will be going away in due course as part of the company's plan to put more focus on utility vehicles and trucks. But that doesn't mean the Fusion name will heading to the trash bin.
      Bloomberg has learned from sources that Ford is planning to move the Fusion name to a new wagon that will compete with the Subaru Outback. The new model will also use the same mechanical underpinnings as the current Fusion - leading us to believe that it will be some version of the Mondeo wagon sold in Europe. Ford spokesman Mike Levine declined to comment on the new model, but did say the Fusion name would continue "because of its awareness, positive imagery and value with consumers.”
      Ford needs a way to keep their current sedan buyers returning their showroom after the Fusion sedan drops out. Analysis done by Kelly Blue Book revealed the less than half of Fusion owners are loyal to the brand. KBB also found that the Honda CR-V and Toyota RAV4 were the most popular SUV models that Fusion owners would consider.
      “Ford has a hard time moving people from their cars to SUVs,” said Michelle Krebs, a senior analyst with Autotrader.
      Source: Bloomberg (Subscription Required)
    • By William Maley
      BMW Group U.S. Reports June 2018 Sales.
      BMW Group sales increase 0.5 percent in June 2018. BMW brand sales increase 1.5 percent. MINI brand sales decrease 6 percent. BMW Group electrified vehicle sales accounted for 7 percent of total U.S. sales in June 2018. Woodcliff Lake, NJ – July 3, 2018… Sales of BMW Group vehicles (BMW and MINI brands combined) in the U.S. increased 0.5 percent in June 2018 compared to the same month last year.  Year to date, BMW Group sales total 176,022 vehicles, an increase of 2.8 percent over the 171,291 vehicles sold in the first six months of 2017. 
      “The first half of 2018 turned out stronger than many expected with June marking the eighth straight month of sales gains for BMW,” said Bernhard Kuhnt, President and CEO, BMW of North America.  “We are especially excited about the second half of the year as the new BMW X4 is now making its way into the market and the new, fourth-generation BMW X5 is about to begin production at our U.S. plant in Spartanburg, South Carolina. The BMW X models continue to be a great success story, accounting for 53% of our U.S. sales in June with even better results ahead.” 
      BMW Brand Sales
      Sales of BMW brand vehicles increased 1.5 percent in June 2018 for a total of 29,407 compared to 28,962 vehicles sold in June 2017. Year-to-date, the BMW brand is up 2.9 percent on sales of 153,386 vehicles compared to 149,086 sold in the first six months of 2017.
      BMW’s lineup of Sports Activity Vehicles accounted for 53 percent of BMW brand sales in June 2018.  Most notably, the first-ever BMW X2 had its best sales month since its March launch (2,150 vehicles), sales of the BMW X5 remained strong (4,355 vehicles) and the BMW X3 had its biggest sales month of 2018 (5,366 vehicles, up 50.5 percent over June 2017).
      MINI Brand Sales
      For June, MINI USA reported 4,146 vehicles sold, a decrease of 6 percent from the 4,410 sold in the same month a year ago.  MINI sales in June were led by the MINI Countryman (1,471 vehicles).  Year to date, MINI sales remain up 1.9 percent. 
      BMW Group Electrified Vehicle Sales
      BMW Group in the U.S. (BMW and MINI combined) sales of electric and plug-in hybrid electric vehicles totaled 2,253 in June 2018, an increase of 20.2 percent from the 1,874 sold in the same month a year ago.  BMW Group electrified vehicles accounted for 7 percent of U.S. sales in June 2018.
      BMW Group currently offers seven electrified models in the U.S., including the BMW i3, BMW i8, BMW 330e, BMW 530e, BMW 740e, BMW X5 xDrive 40e and MINI Countryman plug-in-hybrid electric vehicle.

  • My Clubs

  • Recently Browsing

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Reader Rides

About us

CheersandGears.com - Founded 2001

We ♥ Cars

Get in touch

Follow us

Recent tweets

facebook

×

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.