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For as pretty as the coupe is, the convertible doesn't so anything for me. This doesn't surprise me though as i'm not a huge fan of how convertibles look.

Perfect daily for many many people, other than price. I don't know what this will be priced but I have to believe it's around the 40k mark... I'd drive one of these.

I just wasn't sure because this Mach E isn't about to be on sale anytime soon so the underpinnings could have engineering yet to be completed.

Oh yeah, I should have known it wouldn't be in something this size compared to what they made the skateboard for.

@dfelt do you think this could be a Rivian skateboard or Ford's?

On automotive pages, it's the cool thing to do to hate on Mustangs, EVs, and SUVs so this is just fuel to the stereotypical member of an auto page. The same people that are complaining about the naming are the same ones who wouldn't consider it even if they made a whole new name for the vehicle. Three of the most internet auto enthusiast triggering words were all put into one product, Mustang + EV + SUV. People can't help but hate on it. There has to be something else on this new platform.

Well, you're up in arms and you're not a Mustang customer... so... Just like we've all discussed GM should do with the Corvette and I still think they could/should. It's a little ugly but 500hp+ would fix that!

If people can swallow the price, there's no glaring downside to it. Heck, even in the Edge-sized price range this isn't really "out there" in pricing. They mortgaged the pony during hard times. All things are on the table for a business. Remember when everybody was like, "Corvette should split off and create its own brand and have a Corvette SUV"? Because I do.

News Flash: No matter what Ford sells, you won't be sold on it.

I'd like to go sometime in the next week or two, as well.

I think it is an all around interesting move that their first real EV(excluding the joke of a Focus Electric) is near coupe-like and performance oriented as opposed to something basic as sht like an electric Escape or Fusion sized/shaped vehicles. I have a feeling the massive tablet is going to become more and more common as it reduces costs and people like big screens, in general. Enthusiasts notice it doesn't flow well but AverageAshley just sees something that looks highly technologically advanced because big screen and sees fancy.

While I'm not a huge fan of throwing Mustang on the actual vehicle name I think people are missing the point in why they're doing it. Balthy can probably understand as EV sales really aren't much of anything. They're using the name to grab attention and attention they got. Chevy came out with the Bolt and hardly made a splash and it's a very adequate EV with no real downsides outside of price.. and 'looks' but those are subjective.

Personally, I would not say that trails out of the headlight cluster until the 2013/2014s.

They started that in 2013 in the ATS and 2014 in the CTS.

And the two "big hitters" are: Corolla: down 0.3% Civic: up 0.6% They really aren't missing out on anything, yet, at least. Equinox: up 2.29% Trax: up 82.04% Ecosport: up 10.7% Escape: down 7.2%

Those don't even sell at reputable brands.

I couldn't agree more. It isn't like it's a small blip on the radar at this point. The SUV/CUV/truck market has been growing and growing for decades. Once SUVs/CUVs bridged most of the fuel economy gap, it created the huge swing that we're in right now. People can easily pull 30mpg in their compact CUVs.

I just found out that it's had AWD basically the whole time.

I really don't. And absolutely, the CT cars definitely look better, I just don't see a resemblance. Also, the LED curling up the fender was already designed by Kia before the CT5 was released.. It wasn't something they threw together in the last 2-3 months.

The CT5's trunk is anything but huge, it's 11.9 cubic feet. For reference, a Corolla's trunk is 13.0 cubic feet. More appropriately; C Class trunk volume: 12.6 cubic feet E Class trunk volume: 13.1 cubic feet 3 Series trunk volume: 17.0 cubic feet 5 Series trunk volume: 14.5-18.7 cubic feet Audi A4 trunk volume: 13.0 cubic feet Audi A6 trunk volume: 13.7 cubic feet

I genuinely do not see any of what you're seeing. All of those things you pointed out see like such a stretch to say they took those design cues.

I really don't think this is much smaller than any compact CUV. I'm surprised how large they are when I see them in the wild, not that they're actually "large" but that they aren't near as small as I think of anything with the Fiat 500 name.

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39 years is the amount of time a business can amortize/depreciate the expense. That's both property and building(done individually, obviously). Depending on the equipment itself, they're depreciated over 5-7 years.

Oh no sh!t?? I genuinely thought it was only in the Sport. Good to know. Okay, also good to know. I didn't really think they were done as the sales numbers still seemed fairly strong and those would diminish more if the supply was limited.