Intrepidation

Already posted. http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index...c=25029&hl=

Aw man, that is a real shame. I hope it doesn't end up meeting such a sad fate.

Not a quote, but a conversation with my super cheap friend..made me LOL David says: civic was flooded David says: did u hear? Kimura™ the Dodgefan says: flooded? David says: last week's rain was enought to wet the interior Kimura™ the Dodgefan says: oh Kimura™ the Dodgefan says: yeah David says: and it stinks David says: now the O2 sensor needs replacement David says: the shop wanted $329 Kimura™ the Dodgefan says: LOL Kimura™ the Dodgefan says: the part costs like 10 bucks David says: I went to advanceauto and got it for $55 Kimura™ the Dodgefan says: or 55 David says: new Kimura™ the Dodgefan says: it's a Honda Kimura™ the Dodgefan says: so it's more expensive Kimura™ the Dodgefan says: i forgot David says: will install it myself Kimura™ the Dodgefan says: well yeah Kimura™ the Dodgefan says: it's easy David says: but we had to pay $45 to get a reading on the pop up light Kimura™ the Dodgefan says: LOL Kimura™ the Dodgefan says: you can get it free at autozone David says: they will test it? David says: for free? Kimura™ the Dodgefan says: yup David says: FUKING ASS

Sigh...from what I can see it looks like a huge disappointment, thanks GM.

The side looks okay, but the front is still ugly, the grille is so massive, and the upcurved thin headlights make it look like an Asian kid with braces. The rear, as expected from spyshots, looks like a mix of Aura and Civic, but it looks very busy. The interior is nice, as is typical of Honda. Overall, a C. It's average, nothing new or interesting, besides the gawdy grille. I like the current car better.

QUOTE(Satty @ Aug 8 2008, 11:35 PM) [snapback]418181[/snapback] Lactose intolerant? Nah, my brother is though..give him a glass of milk and clear the room. I tried a new place the other day, maybe something in the food caused, it. Either way, it makes for a great weapon.

QUOTE(Satty @ Aug 7 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]417857[/snapback]Me: for farting Well then I should be banned for being ulta gassy lately.

I don't think I've seen a Ram review yet. The Challenger reviews have been very positive. The hybrid SUVs are alright, Autoblog reported getting I think 22 mpg out of their test vehicle.

Official release photos can be found in this thread: http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index...mp;#entry418159

Enjoy :AH-HA_wink:

SANTA MONICA, California — Images and specifications of the 2009 Acura TL made their way onto the Web today, ahead of Acura's planned debut for next week. Acura had previously released only a front view and preliminary information for the all-new fourth-generation TL. The 2009 TL will be offered in two versions: front-wheel drive and all-wheel drive. This is the first time Honda's Super-Handling all-wheel drive will be available on the midsize sedan. The front-wheel-drive version gets a 280-horsepower 3.5-liter SOHC V6 engine, and the TL SH-AWD will use a 305-hp 3.7-liter SOHC V6. Both engines are mated to a sequential sportshift five-speed automatic transmission with paddle shifters. The 2009 TL also gets a completely revamped interior when it goes on sale this fall. What this means to you: Mixed reactions from the press room here as we start to digest the TL's new look. — Kelly Toepke, News Editor Source: Inside Line

I bet it was a small percentage. I know we used ours to pay bills.

Thanks for the info balthazar!

One of the most retarded and ignorant articles I have ever read. It's ok though, last I heard yahoo wasn't doing so well. Let yahoo die.

Not sure where to post this, so feel free to move where appropriate. This is a questions for insiders and people who have a lot of knowledge about platforms and the engineerings aspects of them. It involves the automaker not some project car. This would be for redesigning/heavily modifying an existing vehcile. How difficult is to to stretch the wheelbase, of a platform, widen it, lengthen the trunk, and change the roofline. In addition to these structural changes, the vehicle using this platform would need new suspnsion tuning, and work on NVH levels. Would it be easier an more cost effective to modify this platform to meet these requirements, or design a new platform with these goals in mind? Why?

That thing is horrible looking, like an ugly H3...especially from the back.

I thought we did this before. Anyway, mine's pretty self explainatory.

That would be a tough one to explain to the surgen.

I did, it makes alot of good points. It also shows how poorly Daimler treated Chrysler from takeover to sell off. Cerberus has a lot of work to do to fix it, and it appears that they are working towards that. The quick reactions no doubt help a lot as opposed to GM, where it takes forever for anything to get done. The questions is can the deliver class leading rpoducts again, can they do it before it's too late, will the stick with Chrysler and not just sell it off instead of seeing it through. As the article mentions, you can only cut costs so much, the actual product has to be excellent, and you can't skimp money on engineering and quality.

This thing looks so bad I would buy a Camry before I bought a G6 GXP, because not even the Camry is as ugly. And if we're comparing FWD, the Altima is awkward at some angles but still not anywhere near as ugly ore miss proportioned. It's no contest with Accod, which is by far the best looking FWD coupe on the market right now.

B-pillars have their place, they are inherently stronger and do save weight. However there should be a hardtop option for more cars besides a couple of Mercedes and the Continental GT.