Chicago 2019: 2020 Toyota Land Cruiser Heritage Edition

Wow they are really getting the last drops of milk out of this old cow. 

Aren't they all the heritage edition?  This version has been on sale since 2007, we are entering the 13th model year without an update.  That is pathetic.  Toyota isn't strapped for cash, update your vehicles.

Amazing they still sell.....

10 hours ago, daves87rs said:

Amazing they still sell.....

Yeah, especially since the FJ Cruiser has NOT been on sale for about five years now.

11 hours ago, smk4565 said:

Aren't they all the heritage edition?  This version has been on sale since 2007, we are entering the 13th model year without an update.  That is pathetic.  Toyota isn't strapped for cash, update your vehicles.

I wouldn't say there hasn't been an update... 

Yes, mild cosmetic updates...don't think there has been any substantive hardware updates?   

4.7L V8: 278hp, 5spd auto trans

5.7L V8: 381hp, 8spd auto trans

Just kidding.. the 5.7 was introduced in 2008(making 381hp). Looking further into it, it appears this is basically the same from 2008 to now. Wiki says 2007-present but maybe that was global and in 2008 it was new here. The biggest mechanical difference is in 2008 it had a 6spd auto and now it has an 8spd auto. 

Personally, I would take this Land Cruiser in  a heartbeat over the G-class (which starts at about $125k)

10 minutes ago, ykX said:

Personally, I would take this Land Cruiser in  a heartbeat over the G-class (which starts at about $125k)

 

So true, the G-Wagon is not worth the money, no matter the tech they put into it. The G-Wagon is just printing money for MB as it is the same spec wagon sold to military peeps around the world at inflated prices.

9 minutes ago, dfelt said:

So true, the G-Wagon is not worth the money, no matter the tech they put into it. The G-Wagon is just printing money for MB as it is the same spec wagon sold to military peeps around the world at inflated prices.

It was until 2019* when it was brand new.

13 hours ago, smk4565 said:

Aren't they all the heritage edition?  This version has been on sale since 2007, we are entering the 13th model year without an update.  That is pathetic.  Toyota isn't strapped for cash, update your vehicles.

Says the fan of the recently updated, after four decades, G-Wagon. Even if money were no object, I’d still take a Land Cruiser over any G-Wagon. Even if their looks are a little dated, they are still built like tanks and will literally run forever with normal maintenance. 

18 minutes ago, ykX said:

Personally, I would take this Land Cruiser in  a heartbeat over the G-class (which starts at about $125k)

 

I see someone beat me to the punch lol.

It would actually be tough for me. I like the smaller size of the G Wagen and I don't really want a 3rd row. This is all assuming money was no issue. If money were a concern.. I'd actually just get a Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged(starts at 86k so comparably priced to the 84k LC)

9 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

The LC is probably way more reliable and cheaper to maintain in the long run...

Probably just means production started in 2007 for the 2008 model year...

Don’t forget an absolutely insane resale value for the LC. Insane what even twenty year old models fetch with 250+K miles on them. 

3 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

Says the fan of the recently updated, after four decades, G-Wagon.

2019 was a ground up new vehicle. 

13 hours ago, smk4565 said:

Aren't they all the heritage edition?  This version has been on sale since 2007, we are entering the 13th model year without an update.  That is pathetic.  Toyota isn't strapped for cash, update your vehicles.

I’m guessing, by your Toyota logic, that Mercedes was also strapped for cash (and similarly pathetic)...for four decades?

I see some things haven’t changed around here. Fanboys will always be fanboys, even when logic is completely thrown out the window.

14 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

The LC is probably way more reliable and cheaper to maintain in the long run...

Plus it is more spacious inside and probably more comfortable on-road and off. 

Off-road wise I bet it is at least as good G-wagon, or maybe even more capable.

30 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

2019 was a ground up new vehicle. 

There was a lot of "copy" / "paste" going on for a lot of vehicle, though yes it is much improved. 

Just the exterior styling.. Aren't all the body panels, chassis, transmission, interior all new? 

3 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

Just the exterior styling.. Aren't all the body panels, chassis, transmission, interior all new? 

Interior is all new.  But I look at say, the door hardware... like the handles and latches and such. That's all the same. The exposed screw heads are still all there.

I watched a review where they pointed out that the exposed screws weren't there anymore. 

1 hour ago, ykX said:

Personally, I would take this Land Cruiser in  a heartbeat over the G-class (which starts at about $125k)

 

Maybe the $50k price makes it a smarter buy, but the G-wagen is better off road, has more power, 9 gears, probably gets better fuel economy even though both suck in that regard, and the G is way more luxurious.  Plus the G has a chassis developed in 2018, no more 1979 chassis.

1 hour ago, surreal1272 said:

Don’t forget an absolutely insane resale value for the LC. Insane what even twenty year old models fetch with 250+K miles on them. 

I have seen 2005-2006 G-wagens with over 200k miles even near 300k miles that sell for $20-25k still.  The resale value is huge on those too.

I wouldn’t buy either personally, I am a car person.

2019 G Wagen 550: 13/17/14 (city/highway/comb)

2019 Land Cruiser: 13/18/15 (city/highway/comb)

Miles per gallon. 

21 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Interior is all new.  But I look at say, the door hardware... like the handles and latches and such. That's all the same. The exposed screw heads are still all there.

The door handles/latches  spare tire cover and headlight washer nozzles are the only carryover parts.  Although the 4 liter V8 went in the old G550 a couple years ago but the AMG’s has the old 5.5 liter.  

The doors, hood, and other parts have been so mildly reshaped we're really stretching the definition of "all new".  I bet, for example, that the doors and hood from the prior G-Class would physically fit into the openings of the new one and maybe just some trim or a hinge is slightly out of alignment.