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AxelTheRed

GM/Ford Nazi Collaberation

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It really hasn't been mentioned very much...or at all, but there seems to be absoulutely no closure as to wheter or not either company activley helped the Nazis. Critics say they knew and willingly helped build tanks and aircraft and whatnot, but the companies themselves say the Nazis wrested control of the factories away from them.

Believe me, there's nothing that I'd rather believe more than that Ford and GM actually did have their plants taken over, but with all the criticism I found online, the whole thing gets a bit fuzzy.

So I guess let's try to get some closure on this topic.

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In the event that you are being serious; you are talking -at least in General Motors' case- about Opel.

GM purchased Opel in 1929. The German government siezed Opel's properties shortly after war was declared in 1939. From that point onward, GM had absolutely no control over Opel's facilities- it was operated to whatever capacity it was by the Nazis. Any tanks, trucks or aircraft assembled in those plants were built by the Nazis not General Motors.

As the war drew to a close, GM was told they were still considered the owners of Opel's properties, tho in fact GM had no clear information on even the condition of the properties & facilities. On 12-1-1947, GM's financial Policy Committee appointed a study group to evaluate & assess Opel with the intent of regaining control over Opel. The report was mixed and the Financial Policy Comm was against resuming production. With further study/discussion and the support of Alfred Sloan, General Motors resumed operational control of Adam Opel A.G. on 11-1-1948.

You now have full closure.

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It's standard practice for companies controlled by enemy nationals to be at least temporarily confiscated by the government of the country they operate in. In addition, as a national socialist state, major business decisions were made by the Nazi government, even at those companies owned and run by German interests (just as it is in China today)—even product designations were assigned by the government. It is ridiculous to assume that an Opel plant in Germany even could report to the US during this time.

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Why would we want to dig up dirt on American companies that were involved in dealings with Nazi Germany when there is more fertile ground with current Japanese companies and their involvement....?

Nissan would be great fodder, considering they were set up by the military bank in Japan to build tanks and trucks in Manchuria, using slave labor.

I don't suppose you'd find that on the company website, though, would ya?

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Does anybody really give a damn about any of it now? I sure don't.

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:withstupid:

In the world of politics, Japan is an ally, and so is Germany. 2 countries we went to war with many decades ago.

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Well, you brain washed fools should give a good damn about it. They are not "our allies" They are only after their own financial gains, looking out for their own people and interests.............something Americans might want to let rub off on them. Asia just realized there was a far easier way to gain control of America, through its new generation of gulable, liberal, bleeding heart, def dumb and blind, wannabe idealists.

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Well, you brain washed fools should give a good damn about it. They are not "our allies" They are only after their own financial gains, looking out for their own people and interests.............something Americans might want to let rub off on them. Asia just realized there was a far easier way to gain control of America, through its new generation of gulable, liberal, bleeding heart, def dumb and blind, wannabe idealists.

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:rolleyes:

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Exactly..........your eyes are rolled up in your head, like a zombie

The looks on your faces in another 30 years when reality slaps you upside the face will be priceless.

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The only things that are priceless are your silly theories and ideas about Japan and Germany wanting to take over America.

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Well, you brain washed fools should give a good damn about it. They are not "our allies" They are only after their own financial gains, looking out for their own people and interests.............something Americans might want to let rub off on them. Asia just realized there was a far easier way to gain control of America, through its new generation of gulable, liberal, bleeding heart, def dumb and blind, wannabe idealists.

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it's the republicans that are against higher import tarrifs, it's the republicans that have a fiscal policy that benefits only the super wealthy, it's the republicans that are against the unions...

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Japan is taking over America. Not through soldiers and weapons, but through technology. Many the big successful companies these days, particularly in the technology business, are Japanese. Sony for eample, sells TVs, DVD Players, Stereos, the Playstation, and more. We by millions of the products every year, and the profits go to Japan. We buy so many products from Japan, even pencils and pens...and cars. So yeah, in essance we're being taken over by the Japanese, if you wanna look at it that way. How many things are made in America by American companies these days?

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North America got complacent and lazy in a lot of ways. The Japanese are very resourceful and innovative and their history proves it, and therefore, they began to dominate the market.

My dad said the first TV he bought was an RCA back in the 70's, an American one, and it crapped out within six months. He decided to buy a Panasonic and it's still going strong to this day.

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A lot of things are invented here, then copied and refined elsewhere, especially Japan.

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It's funny how other countries are perceived as a threat, even when they have the same overall goal as us. Why can't we grow, with our allies, instead of being xenophobic?

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Thats not true, other countries have their populations overall welfare, economic and industrial growth as their priority. This is not the case in this country. In this country our governments only concern is the bottom line we can show the wall street crowd at the end of the day. Unfortunantly over the past three decades the only way to do this has been to sell off our assets. Selling assests reads as great profit. Simply operating assets for the typically slow profits has not been enough to please the wall street crowd.

Which brings me to my "xenophobic" views, what ever the hell that is.

These assets were built and developed and made successful by the generations of Americans that fought off the repressive totalitarian governments that were trying to take over the world through force. After we went into great debt to beat them into the ground, we went further into debt to rebuild them, because its our nature to feel badly for the down trodden (as long as they are not our own). Then after we rebuilt their countries, our corporate world then inplace from the rebuilds, taught how to gain economic strenght in the American market. With low, near slave labor this was a very easy challange. Somewhere in there it dawned on these countries that it was not necessary to use weapons to capture our economic wealth, industrial might and eventually purchase our assets.

Hows that summary ? Any questions !

Well at least they dont bomb us anymore......heres a little victory dance....... :pbjtime:

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The black and white console TV Mom and Dad bought after they built our house in 58 was still working fine in the 70's and was only replaced for a color.

I just threw out their old General Electric refridge about 8 years ago. I still have no idea what I was thinking. We have been through 2, on our 3rd. since.

We are on our 3rd TV in 18 years as well.

My parents old Electrolux canister vacumn was still doing a fine job in the mid 90's when Dad died, I have no idea where it is now. It still sealed properly and did not throw out half the dust it picked up due to warped plastic sealing surfaces. We have been through 4 new vacumn cleaners in these 18 years.

3 VCR's

2 computers

5 coffee makers ? maybe more

1 sterio in my shop, new Japanese, lasted on week past its year warrrantee

3 microwaves

So YEA :thumbsup: I can really see how much better products are these days than in the past. Here, let me do another new age American dance for ya, Id hate to loose your........respect.......... :pbjtime:

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