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Saturn to get new Vectra Wagon for '09

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Saturn expansion continues with Euro imports
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General Motors in the US will once again call on its European cohort for its latest addition to the Saturn lineup. Starting from 2009, US customers will be able to sample the Vectra Caravan, which will be sold alongside its Saturn Aura sedan sibling. The first cars are scheduled to roll out of Opel’s Rüsselsheim plant in Germany in 2009 with an allotted 50,000 cars being shipped across the Atlantic.

The introduction is part of GM’s push to offer more fuel efficient cars in its lineup. Both the Aura and its new wagon cousin are important vehicles for Saturn and form the basis of the brand’s rejuvenation as a profitable label that can compete with other European imports.

Before the wagon arrives, Opel’s Astra hatch will hit showrooms in the US with the first orders shipping later this year. It doesn’t end there. Saturn execs are planning for the introduction of even more European designed models, with some cars, including the next-generation Opel Corsa, tipped to enter production in the US.
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God I love how Opel is becoming more and more involved in the US and Saturn. I hope Opel becomes the brand of choice via Saturn in the North American market.

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So...will it be called Aura or Vectra? I like the name Vectra myself.

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So...will it be called Aura or Vectra? I like the name Vectra myself.

It's an interesting thought, too... if they just call the wagon "vectra", and the sedan "aura", then the wagon kinda has its own distinct-ness... I think I like wagon = vectra rather than wagon = aura wagon.

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It's an interesting thought, too... if they just call the wagon "vectra", and the sedan "aura", then the wagon kinda has its own distinct-ness... I think I like wagon = vectra rather than wagon = aura wagon.

Kinda like the Magnum and the Charger are their own vehicles.

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I like what's happening at Saturn. They've been sort of an eco-weenie brand, historically. They can continue to fill that niche, but GM also needs to give Chevrolet, Pontiac and Buick some RWD cars for people who prefer something more American in character.
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By '09 it won't be that wagon though, but the new one, which apparently won't be a Vectra even in Europe.

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I love what GM is doing to Saturn, too, but mark my words: it is going to kill of Chevrolet in Canada. Unless there is some cool, fun to drive product in the wings (like as was seen at the NY Auto Show) from GM-DAT, Chevrolet is going to die here. The cool Opel stuff going to Saturn, the lambda to everybody else, no competitive minivan....the list of sins just goes on.

I opened the National Post today and saw a full two page center spread in full color of the new Hyundai Veracruz. I wanted to choke on my corn flakes. It is gorgeous, 7 seater and priced not much higher than the aging Equinox. I see a lot of grey-haired folks driving Hyundias and Kias up here. They are no longer a joke. Chevrolet is getting squeezed between the superior product over at P-B-GMC and soon to be Saturn.

Just my thoughts, in case anybody in Oshawa is awake.

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By '09 it won't be that wagon though, but the new one, which apparently won't be a Vectra even in Europe.

Aha, it would be the new one then. That's what I was thinking. Maybe instead of Opel Insignia we'll get an Opel Aura?
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I opened the National Post today and saw a full two page center spread in full color of the new Hyundai Veracruz. I wanted to choke on my corn flakes. It is gorgeous, 7 seater...

Was that sarcasm? (Serious question...I don't find it attractive in the least, although the interior is very, very nice).

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The next Vectra and Aura are the same car, so they're just importing the wagon version from Europe because it doesn't make sense to build it here.

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I love what GM is doing to Saturn, too, but mark my words: it is going to kill of Chevrolet in Canada. Unless there is some cool, fun to drive product in the wings (like as was seen at the NY Auto Show) from GM-DAT, Chevrolet is going to die here. The cool Opel stuff going to Saturn, the lambda to everybody else, no competitive minivan....the list of sins just goes on.

I opened the National Post today and saw a full two page center spread in full color of the new Hyundai Veracruz. I wanted to choke on my corn flakes. It is gorgeous, 7 seater and priced not much higher than the aging Equinox. I see a lot of grey-haired folks driving Hyundias and Kias up here. They are no longer a joke. Chevrolet is getting squeezed between the superior product over at P-B-GMC and soon to be Saturn.

Just my thoughts, in case anybody in Oshawa is awake.

saturn does not have a dealer network large enough to have a significant impact on chevy sales.

if i were you, i'd be scared to death of hyundai.

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I love what GM is doing to Saturn, too, but mark my words: it is going to kill of Chevrolet in Canada. Unless there is some cool, fun to drive product in the wings (like as was seen at the NY Auto Show) from GM-DAT, Chevrolet is going to die here. The cool Opel stuff going to Saturn, the lambda to everybody else, no competitive minivan....the list of sins just goes on.

I opened the National Post today and saw a full two page center spread in full color of the new Hyundai Veracruz. I wanted to choke on my corn flakes. It is gorgeous, 7 seater and priced not much higher than the aging Equinox. I see a lot of grey-haired folks driving Hyundias and Kias up here. They are no longer a joke. Chevrolet is getting squeezed between the superior product over at P-B-GMC and soon to be Saturn.

Just my thoughts, in case anybody in Oshawa is awake.

Don't fret. You'll be getting an MCE Cobalt soon, substantially superior Malibu, and a Lambda of your own.

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The next Vectra and Aura are the same car, so they're just importing the wagon version from Europe because it doesn't make sense to build it here.

Possibly. The Aura could be the lwb version though. It will depend on whether GM thinks the new Opel is big enough to take on the Accord and Camry.
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saturn does not have a dealer network large enough to have a significant impact on chevy sales.

if i were you, i'd be scared to death of hyundai.

Considering the major gains Hyundai has made over the years, and how much their quality and designs have improved...they have nothing to be scared of.

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Supposedly the Outlook isn't doing all that well at Saturn. The problem for it and the proposed "vectra Wagon" is just too few dealers?

The following is rather interesting post from another site:

For the past few years, there have been a rash of Saturn dealer closings on Long Island and throughout downstate New York.

At the start of this year, a region of nearly four million people had two dealers which to go to if they wished to buy or service their Saturn. There are a few Long Island-based Saturnfans, myself being one.

So it was with much surprise when I was driving along NY Route 25 just west of the (Smith Haven) mall and saw the Saturn sign and a newly constructed facility with new cars on the lot. I did a double take and nearly drove off the road!Posted Image

the rest of the post and thread here
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Supposedly the Outlook isn't doing all that well at Saturn. The problem for it and the proposed "vectra Wagon" is just too few dealers?

The following is rather interesting post from another site:

the rest of the post and thread here

Actually, the Outlook is doing VERY well, but with the increased number of sales because of vehicles like it and also the Aura and Sky, people are now bringing up the relative lack of Saturn dealers in general that they can go to. There's still a lot of them in some places, but it just doesn't compare to, say, the typical Chevy dealer in others.

So, with this new popularity, I'm wondering how many more new Saturn places will be popping up. They don't need to hit overload, as the need for some exclusivity can actually be a great thing, but just enough so more people have greater ease in finding, buying, and servicing an exciting new Saturn.

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There will be some happy Saturn fans . I worked for Saturn for 4 years , and we sold a fair amount L-series wagons , and thats all those people wanted was the wagon . Im so happy the Opel connection is in full motion now :)

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Sweet - the wagon will be available at about the same time that the lease on my Aura ends. I love the Aura but a sedan is not match for a wagon...I really miss the utility of my Malibu Maxx.

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Firstly, no I wasn't kidding about the Hyundai...I like it a lot. It looks like the next generation Equinox - except that it is a 7 seater. That is something that Chevrolet is sorely lacking.

I know most of you guys are American, but things are much different up here. Chevrolet is just another foreign nameplate. The Sierra outsells the Silverado (hell, even the Ram outsold the Silverado last year!), the Cobalt is not that far ahead of the G5, the Montana always outsold the Venture. The Vibe does remarkably well, considering how old it is. The strongest dealers in the Toronto area are P-B-GMC dealers. So the nameplate Chevrolet is getting squeezed between the Hyundai/Kia dealers below, and the P-B-GMC dealers above; the Saturn thing (although good for GM, IMO) is not good for Chevrolet.

Part of the reason that GM is getting killed in the large urban markets is because there is some type of dealer on every corner. Sure, in some hick town there may NOT be a Jaguar or Kia dealer, but there are plenty in the big city. It doesn't matter if Chevrolet has twice as many dealers as Saturn when you only have to drive 2 or 3 miles to get to a Saturn dealer.

I don't think with the Aura Saturn will be a threat to Chevrolet yet, but give the real Opel product to them and it will just be one more nail in the coffin - up here.

Remember, this is Canada where the #1 selling vehicle for years was the Caravan, not the F-150.

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God I love how Opel is becoming more and more involved in the US and Saturn. I hope Opel becomes the brand of choice via Saturn in the North American market.

Yea, except I wish they were called Opels. I love the new saturns, but for some reason the name 'Saturn' sounds like something that shouldn't be the name of a car marquee.

Just don't name cars after planets. It's funny that the only two marques, Saturn and Mercury, are both going to become all Euro.

I still don't understand why discontinue Oldsmobile and move Saturn upmarket to its place. Saturn should've been a marque of small cars like the recently debuted Chevy Trax, Beat, and Groove that would kill Scion with hip design and lots of stuff for the money. I don't know if I'd ever buy a Euro near-luxury called a Saturn Aura. I mean, I love the car, but I would wait for the new Malibu.

Oldsmobile on the other hand would be better in my opinion for these Euro cars. OLDsmobile, OLD world....just kidding :stupid:

But I'd still like to hear someone explain to me why Olds had to go only to have Saturn take its place with the kinds of cars, which I thought, Oldsmobile should have always had.

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Yea, except I wish they were called Opels. I love the new saturns, but for some reason the name 'Saturn' sounds like something that shouldn't be the name of a car marquee.

Just don't name cars after planets. It's funny that the only two marques, Saturn and Mercury, are both going to become all Euro.

I still don't understand why discontinue Oldsmobile and move Saturn upmarket to its place. Saturn should've been a marque of small cars like the recently debuted Chevy Trax, Beat, and Groove that would kill Scion with hip design and lots of stuff for the money. I don't know if I'd ever buy a Euro near-luxury called a Saturn Aura. I mean, I love the car, but I would wait for the new Malibu.

Oldsmobile on the other hand would be better in my opinion for these Euro cars. OLDsmobile, OLD world....just kidding :stupid:

But I'd still like to hear someone explain to me why Olds had to go only to have Saturn take its place with the kinds of cars, which I thought, Oldsmobile should have always had.

No one hated Saturn more than I. They came to Wilmington, took the GM sign down and put up the Saturn sign. They gutted the computer systems that GM used and at that time, tried to run an Assembly plant using Windows NT, I still laugh about that. It failed as expected. They told Wilmington assembly employees that even though Wilmington had been building cars for 50 years, they didn't know what they were doing. I still laugh about that too. I was in meetings with Saturn big wigs in Springhill where they actually thought they would transform GM into their own image. That was the 1st time I spoke up and told Saturn you will be assimilated by GM in the end, they all laughed and said that would never happen. But I saw signs, little ones at 1st and they became bigger as time went on, like a snowball rolling downhill, getting bigger and bigger. The 1st sign was that they moved Ralph Harding who was our plant manager to Springhill. GM then gave us Cynthia Trudell as our plant manager for a few years, soon she was being promoted to Vice President, and Chairman and President of Saturn Corporation, that's when I knew the assimilation had begun, the funny thing is, the same Saturn big wigs didn't notice it. That was a good thing, because by the time they did it was to late, Saturn had become just a shell within that shell, it was all GM, so much so, as of this date Springhill no longer builds Saturn vehicles, but GM vehicles, so assimilation is now complete!

Olds may be gone, but so is Saturn too really, all the old divisions are gone, It's really just GM selling different brands, playing a shell game as it were with the car brands and the consumer. All that's left now is to assimilate Holden and Opel and add them to the shell game too, that is underway, it's just a matter of time now. Resistance is futile, just ask Saturn.

Don't mourn for Olds, it's still there it's just called GM now. Notice all the cars and trucks have the GM Chicklet on them now? I wonder why?

Edited by Pontiac Custom-S
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