Tailfin61

Buick 2006 - 2010

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This weeks issue has a layout of upcoming GM changes based on insider info and suppliers, now through 2010. Here's the link but I think you have to be a paying subscriber to read:

http://www.autonews.com/article.cms?articleId=54222

Here's a recap:
LaX - no changes planned. replacement in 2010 with development to be done in Germany with styling from US.

Lucerne - All we've read about with base price 28K - 30K for V6. What I found interesting is that they referred to it as replacement for LeSabre, not LeSabre/PA.

Flag ship sedan - This was referred to as replacement to PA code named Roadmaster. Now that zeta is cancelled plans are up in the air. No vehicle is planned until 2010 at the earliest.

RWD Coupe/Convertible - Still uncertain. Could be zeta or other RWD option. Possibly by 2008 (could they be anymore vague?)

Rainier - 2007 is last year.

Terraza - status quo until 2008. Future model uncertain.

RDV - Freshened for 2006 with new engine, grill, and quiet tuning. Replacement for 2008 model year. New model lower and sleeker with V8 option. Name change likely to Centieme.

I think I captured everything . . .
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Flag ship sedan - This was referred to as replacement to PA code named Roadmaster.  Now that zeta is cancelled plans are up in the air.  No vehicle is planned until 2010 at the earliest.

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Ah, but Zeta's back on now!
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I heard the Terraza and the Rainier will not be replaced and I think it's the right direction for Buick.
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I don't like the idea of Terraza staying around for Buick; I think that's all wrong.
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A Rebadged SRX wiht the Centime's styling is a perfect replacemetn for both the Terraza & the Ranier.
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A Rebadged SRX wiht the Centime's styling is a perfect replacemetn for both the Terraza & the Ranier.

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What's the point of the Lambda-based Rendezvous replacement then?
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At last... some Buick ;) future product news!

Tailfin61: Thank you so much for posting this. I wondered what the article said.

Which is the Epsilon Buick? Bob Lutz mentioned it in the Automotive News article titled "Global a Go." He said, "We will be able to build a Buick Epsilon in China, a Saab Epsilon in Korea or the United States," Lutz promises. "Once we get identical parts, we have these enormous savings in worldwide parts buying." Was he just making an example, or is it a China-only Buick?

Sixty8panther: Do you mean the Equinox rebadge that's supposed to go to Buick in model year '09?
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Well, if GMC is getting the Lambda minivan then I don't mind the Terraza disappearing. Ditto with Rainier since the Envoy will be moving further upscale. I actually prefer Buick to keep the Rendezvous name on the Lambda Crossover though. It's been very successful and has continued to maintain as a premium competitor in the Crossover market.
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My best friend just bought a 2005 Buick Rainier CXL AWD and is totally thrilled with it. I better not tell him that there's no replacement scheduled after 2007 for it. Edited by GMTruckGuy74
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The Buick Rainier is actually a very nice truck..I saw a new one at the dealer in black and it had big chrome rims on it. I couldn't stop staring at it...very sharp.
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GMTruckGuy74: Maybe by the time your friend wants to replace it, Buick will have something even better!

HarleyEarl: I would have liked to have seen a second-generation Buick Rainier, at least to see what they would have done to replace the Bravada-like styling.
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Can you get some real pictures of it, inside and out? I'd like to see real-life pictures of the Rainier, not just the GM shots.
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Only the Lambda is for certain, everything else is speculation or in the case of the Lacrosse replacement subject to change at this time. Edited by evok
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I just asked because I find it hard to believe that Buick will only have 2 CARS for the next 5 years, both of which will be out this fall. With this Buick is neither improving its image (such as a Zeta Buick would or a vehicle above the Lucerne) nor capturing the sales they did with the Regal/Century LeSabre/Park Avenue crowds because they will only have 2 cars to pick from. Especially since their only other option is "truck based" models which apparently would leave us with a dying Rainier, a not-even-tried-to-be-unique Terraza (which I thought GM was getting rid of Buick and Pontiac cookie-cutter vehicles), and a replaced Rendezvous. So assuming the Terraza gets knocked out too (because it certainly wont hold any sales being such an obviously similar minivan to the rest when you can get a more unique Chrysler for the same price) there'd only be 3 vehicles for Buick? I'm skeptical Buick could survive on these- I think (more like hope) that GM and Buick are thinking fast about what else needs to come out for their product line- because they're far too short. Edited by Cananopie
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Cananopie: Obviously, the Buick Lambda crossover (Centieme?) will be a very important product. And you'd think GM could fairly easily take the biggest Holden and rebadge it as Invicta, or Roadmaster if you prefer. But perhaps they need more time to sort out the Buick NA and Buick China products against the global portfolios, or the present products have to be allowed to run their course before they can fix things. (I trust that they don't want three
4-door sedans of approximately the same length, etc.) Of course, a Riviera, or Velite if you prefer, seems like another no-brainer, but what do you base it on? Hopefully not the Pontiac G6 with its convertible top problems.
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Yes, 2004-> 4 cars, 2006-> 2 cars...not good. 2007? 2008? 2009?
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moltar: Unless somebody knows something they're not yet revealing, two Buick cars may be it - for a number of years. Evidently we have to adjust the way we view Buick. In 2004, wasn't it considered a "full line"? So now, with the B-P-G channel, we know it is (or is heading toward) being one "portion" of a full line with Pontiac and GMC. So our old yardstick for measuring products can't continue to be used. Add Buick's two cars to however many Pontiac will have and that will be the total we should hold against previous years. Besides, as you know, the Century and Regal were too similar, as were the LeSabre and Park Avenue. So, under the present financial climate, if GM gives Buick at a minimum 4 or 5 great and really distinctive products, that's plenty.
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Several insiders have hinted at Buick getting a premium Theta crossover, which is probably more useful than another sedan.
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Canonopie, slightly off topic but really like the effect in your sig of the car over your nic....very creative.
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I just remember reading in one of the periodicals that the Lax was phasing out the 3800 during 2007 and using the 3900 V6 along with the Grand Prix. Also they said the Ranier was done after 2006 and the Terraza was being phased out after 2007. The Rendevous is slated for Lamda and some sort of rear drive full size patterened from the upcoming Aussie full size is due by 2008. Sounds like Buick killed one too many cars off at one time. Why they couldn't keep the Park Ave for one more year until the Lucerne gears up is weird. Even more odd is why they find it necessary to rename there entire car lineup. They even used up 2 names for one car in the case of the LaCrosse\Allure when Regal would have been just fine since the Lax is just a warmed over version of that same car. If I was to asked for a better 2007 Buick lineup it would look like this: 1)A return of a lower priced W-body with the old Century name and just the basics like a 211hp 3500 only engine, no std power seat, no side air bags and a bench seat for around $19995. Limit options to a package with power seat, ABS, side air bags, remote start and a trip computer and a few stand alone ones like alloy wheels and a telescoping wheel so price doesn't go above 24k or so. 2) LaCrosse with std 3900 V6. Upper CXS model uses a 255 hp version of the 3.6. Restyle the front end to look less like a Hyundai. Darked the seat colors as they get dirty real quick and somehow squease an extra inch or so of rear legroom. Introduce 6 speed automatic on the top CXS model. 3) Ditch the gruff lower output 3800 on the Lucerne and give it a 3.6 std. Start off base prices right in line with the Avalon. Pair the upper CXS model with 6 speed auto trans. Have a base model with cloth seats and a lower price. 4) Bring out a full sized rear drive Buick with a 5.7 liter V8 ASAP! Don't care if it's Aussie based or not just give it Buick styling and quality interior. Keep price in line with 300C and hp levels that exceed it. 5) Redo the Rendevous on upcoming Lamda platform and give it 3500 211hp V6 and 255 hp 3.6 DOHC. 6) Drop Ranier, it's just not needed with all the other T360's out there. 7) Keep Terazza and give it 3900 as the only mill. Pair it to 4 speed auto as std and make the top model with the 6 speed auto and better gears for more satisfying power. Put glove box light in and make dash door less cheap feeling. Also ditch those horrid seat inserts on the base model and give it traditional cloth material. 8) Bring back the Riviera coupe with exciting new styling and a V8 and quiet tuning. Utilise the Same rear drive chassis as the full sized sedan. Price in the low 30K range. I know some of this is a pipe dream but it would go a long way in fleshing out Buicks current weak lineup.
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I still say Buick needs a big, proudly Buick sedan.  Roadmaster just isnt the name i would pick though.

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I would. thats a kickass name!
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