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Motor Trend Compares Camaro and Genesis 3.8

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[source: Motortrend]

2010 Chevrolet Camaro V-6 vs 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track

Six Shooters: Motortrend Tries to Find the King of the Affordable V-6 Coupes

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FIRST PLACE: Hyundai Genesis Coupe

Best viewed from behind the wheel, where it handles entertaining roads more like a sports car than a pony- or musclecar.

SECOND PLACE: Chevrolet Camaro

Powerful, refined V-6 and enough style to lend some to Hyundai, its weight and size make it less entertaining on second- and third-gear roads.

Your humble Detroit bureau's predilection was to give the new Chevy Camaro the benefit of the doubt. It has far more visual appeal than the Hyundai Genesis, and that's why people buy sport coupes. Meanwhile, GM has downsized itself into underdog status. The Camaro's sibling, the Pontiac G8, ends production this year. That makes the Camaro GM's only North American-market Zeta-platform car. It's a pre-reorganization present to baby-boomers who've been waiting seven years since the demise of the F-Body. After a five- or six-year run, GM's rear-drive business likely will revert to Cadillac and Corvette.

The Hyundai Genesis, sedan and coupe, look ready to thrive, if only in low volume in light of fuel economy and emissions regulations. While the Camaro scored slightly higher real-world fuel economy than the Genesis, Hyundai's numbers will get better when it adds such technology as gas direct-injection. The 2010 Chevy Camaro is a beautiful tribute to our automotive past. If there is a future for rear-drive sport coupes, it's in a car like the Hyundai Genesis.

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Is anybody really surprised that Motor Trend which is now a sham and a farce and joke decided to twist the knife a little?

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Ummm.....the Camaro has less hp (ok, only 2 but still) and weighs some 300 pounds more. Did anyone think that might effect performance? Not just straight line, but handling as well.

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Well, the Camaro has a bigger engine optional. The Hyundai was designed specifically for the V6. I really don't think you can expect the Camaro to be a performance benchmark with a V6. Also, Camaro is pre-production, almost like Motor Trend wanted to test the pre-production.

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The probably wanted to test the first V6 Camaro GM could get them. People really need to quit looking for media bias when its GM's fault a car has shortcomings.

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This comparison is like taking a Silverado V6 and putting it up against a Tacoma. Here is how the copy will read:

First Place: Toyota Tacoma

The Tacoma handles small loads better than the Silverado. It can tow the 2 seadoos just as well to the lake, has better gas mileage and is just scrumptious while driving.

Second Place: Chevy Silverado

The Silverado is big and bulky and the smaller loads slide around in it's huge bed. Weighing hundreds of pounds more than the Tacoma, it still pulls the seadoos but mileage suffers greatly. Handling is burdensome and the plastics are hard.

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How is this like comparing a Tacoma and Silverado? The Genesis Coupe and Camaro actually compete with one another and, whether you like it or not, they're going to be compared to each other. The Tacoma is, size and price-wise, competition for the Colorado, if you can show me any comparison between the Tacoma and Silverado, I'd love to see it.

I could see your issue if the Genesis Coupe were FWD, but it isn't. Its a RWD V6 coupe, just like the base Camaro. Not MT's fault the Camaro is 8 inches longer, 2 inches wider and 300 pounds heavier.

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Well, both the Silverado and Tacoma are RWD can be v6 and are trucks. The Silverado is bigger, wider, and heavier too. Just like the Camaro, the Silverado can be had with a V8 and the Tacoma, just like the Hyundai, cannot.

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Also, the camaro is 2,000 less in this compro and gets better gas mileage.

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So since the Camaro is huge, it cannot be compared to anything else? The test wasn't "Biggest engine available" it was "V6" so there is absolutely no reason to discredit it other than a huge amount of bias on your part.

Nobody is going to cross shop a Tacoma and Silverado, people will cross shop the Genesis Coupe and Camaro.

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Also, the camaro is 2,000 less in this compro

But by your logic, we cant hold the price difference against the Hyundai because they tested the Track Package.

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I'm just making comparisons like Motor Trend did. They are bias, so I have a right to be as well. Just to even things out a bit, Hyundai has a better warranty and quicker 1/4 mile times, but the Chevrolet pollutes less.

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After the Cobalt is paid off, I'm hoping that a Genesis 2.0T Track isn't too far out of reach. Of all the new cars available, it's the only one that's really snagged my interest. Otherwise, I would stick with used for a another decade. :P

Per the results, it's not terribly surprising. The Genesis is smaller and lighter, of course its going to perform better. Even then, it's not a runaway winner. The review was mostly fair and both cars seem spectacular. You can't really go wrong with either them, it's mostly a choice of style and preference.

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Your comparison is illogical. The Tacoma and Silverado dont compete in size, price or market. The Camaro and Genesis Coupe do. Next are you going to say the Mustang doesn't compete with the Camaro because the Camaro is larger and has a bigger available engine?

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The Hyundai Genesis, sedan and coupe, look ready to thrive, if only in low volume in light of fuel economy and emissions regulations. While the Camaro scored slightly higher real-world fuel economy than the Genesis, Hyundai's numbers will get better when it adds such technology as gas direct-injection. The 2010 Chevy Camaro is a beautiful tribute to our automotive past. If there is a future for rear-drive sport coupes, it's in a car like the Hyundai Genesis.

So... The future is to be driven by fuel economy regs... The Camaro scores better in that respect, yet it is still a "nod to the past" while the less appealing (the authors are apologizing for the fuel economy shortcomings of the Genesis in the same breath -- too bad Detroit never gets the luxury of the media defending their shortcomings) Genesis wins the comparison?

Typical...

Hyundai will now be elevated above Detroit (as per the plan)

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As Chazman has said previously in the tone that GM erred on the heavier side when they went ahead with this Camaro. Yes they did a spectacular job with the chasis and handling and surprisingly with its performance. When compared to the lot lighter and equally powerful Hyundai, Camaro only looses not more than 2/10th in acceleration numbers which is an achievement. But its weight is going to be a handling factor when it comes to comparing cars in this class. And it will be compared to the Genesis.

The RS package would have helped in the handling department had the Camaro in the comparo been equipped with it, but it would have also skewed the price game. Overall I will not call a bias because Camaro may have emotional bonds, but Hyundai is today's choice. Had GM team took care of the weight and size aspect, we would not have to call bias and victory would have been outright. I hope GM brings in Alpha soon enough to start putting cars on weight diet.

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I know people that have cross-shopped the Silverado and the Tacoma. Yeah, it may be a bit out of reach compared to this current comparison. But, I just don't see the Camaro being a competitor to the Hyundai kind of like how you don't see the Tacoma being a competitor to the Silverado.

The Camaro is bigger and has bigger engines available and the V6 is not a track car like the Hyundai with the track package.

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So... The future is to be driven by fuel economy regs... The Camaro scores better in that respect, yet it is still a "nod to the past" while the less appealing (the authors are apologizing for the fuel economy shortcomings of the Genesis in the same breath -- too bad Detroit never gets the luxury of the media defending their shortcomings) Genesis wins the comparison?

That is the only Bias factor in this comparo which is irrelevant. You do not vote for present with What ifs factor. We can also add what if next Alpha Camaro then it is better than Hyundai. Grow up Motortrend!

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Your comparison is illogical. The Tacoma and Silverado dont compete in size, price or market. The Camaro and Genesis Coupe do. Next are you going to say the Mustang doesn't compete with the Camaro because the Camaro is larger and has a bigger available engine?

well... i got a buddy who got out of his 2004 silverado ext cab z71 for a 2006 tacoma doublecab long bed... his reasoning was for fuel economy. so now he gets about 4mpg more and pays $60 more a month while still having to buy gas.

not tryin to start an arguement just sayin.

fwiw he owned a 2001 tacoma but it got totalled so he got the 1500. now hes back in a tacoma.

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Ahhh MT I am almost ready to cancel them. Car and Driver but the Camaro in first FYI in the June issue.

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Maybe, just maybe the Hyundai was slightly better in this test. Besides, these tests aren't much to get worked up about anyways; how many Camaro V6's and Genesis' are going to actually be 'driven' like they were in the reviews.

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>>"I know people that have cross-shopped the Silverado and the Tacoma."<<

Here also- a buddy was ready to sign for the nissan (smaller pickup- whatever it's called) to replace his S-10, but upon some nudging by his friends who drive Silverados, he compared the Silverado V-6 and bought it instead.

So much for that theory.

In the high-impact world of sports coupes, where emotion tends to rise MUCH closer to the surface of consideration than maybe with any other sector..... just look at that opening pic! One car looks like a droopy early '90s sporty/econo car, and the other visually knocks you over like a firehose and has more heritage from day 1 than just about any other car. IMO, these 2 will NOT be cross-shopped just as much as the 3-series & CTS supposedly aren't cross-shopped.

Another 'absolute' that needs to be dropped is : more weight always = worse handling. Esp when we are talking about only a few hundred lbs.

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Genesis = frumpy at best

Camaro = rolling sculpture

With a V6, who cares about the rest?

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So... The future is to be driven by fuel economy regs... The Camaro scores better in that respect, yet it is still a "nod to the past" while the less appealing (the authors are apologizing for the fuel economy shortcomings of the Genesis in the same breath -- too bad Detroit never gets the luxury of the media defending their shortcomings) Genesis wins the comparison?

Typical...

Hyundai will now be elevated above Detroit (as per the plan)

The plan! the plan!

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Dare I ask what plan?

The Camaro should win on looks alone. O if it were only as simple. But if I were in the market I know who would get my money.

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